NS Military Worldbuilding Thread No. 12

[New Vihenia]

There was Oka. but then no turret is practical.

[Cossack Peoples]

I might have asked something similar to this in the past, but what radar bands do BVR air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles tend to be in? In the IEEE organization, would somewhere around the C-X bands be used for a missile's active radar guidance?

[Gallia-]

There was Oka. but then no turret is practical.

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This but 16" and on a pair of MBT-70s idk.

Dumbla be like

[Radictistan]

I might have asked something similar to this in the past, but what radar bands do BVR air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles tend to be in? In the IEEE organization, would somewhere around the C-X bands be used for a missile's active radar guidance?

For AAMs you're stuck at X-band or higher. Anything lower in frequency won't have enough azimuth precision with an antenna you can fit in a missile.

[Republic of Penguinian Astronautia]

It's neither my idea nor is it particularly original.

Chapter 4 has everything in it, including a cute truck with a little helicopter, and a lot of graphs and diagrams and maps.

So I take it that these would be a fairly small portion of an overall force?

[Gallia-]

It's neither my idea nor is it particularly original.

Chapter 4 has everything in it, including a cute truck with a little helicopter, and a lot of graphs and diagrams and maps.

So I take it that these would be a fairly small portion of an overall force?

Yes, you make airborne units smaller and disperse them over a large area with a huge amount of remote controlled weapons and airborne sensors. Anything that moves and can be seen by the sensors gets killed by whatever weapons they have, whether it's fiber optic guided missiles, persistent loitering missiles, cruise missiles, drones with tiny bombs, or whatever.

Obviously this requires some caveats: It won't work if you face an enemy with effective air forces, because they will simply shoot down your drones (or shoot down the transport planes carrying your paratroopers and missile pods) with fighters, and it would require a rather large and sophisticated air force to begin with. It's also not very effective at fighting in cities, and it's wholly questionable whether such a formation would even be capable of attacking to begin with, but it's probably quite effective at mulching much larger mechanized formations with inadequate air cover.

It's sort of the ultimate organization for a war like the Yom Kippur War, but you'd obviously want more traditional mechanized formations for fighting in cities like in 2003 Iraq or whatever.

[Austrasien]

I might have asked something similar to this in the past, but what radar bands do BVR air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles tend to be in? In the IEEE organization, would somewhere around the C-X bands be used for a missile's active radar guidance?

For AAMs you're stuck at X-band or higher. Anything lower in frequency won't have enough azimuth precision with an antenna you can fit in a missile.

This is the right answer.

Angle resolution of a monopulse radar target track is determined by signal to noise ratio, not diffraction, however. Smaller beams illuminate smaller areas and so provide higher signal-to-noise ratios in realistic conditions. In special conditions (like outer space where it can be assumed there will be nothing except the target illuminated by the radar) you could track a target with extreme accuracy even with arbitrarily long waves. This is irrelevant except for understanding though.

[Miku the Based]

are the elusive chechnyan snipers still alive since the second war? I've heard alot of stories from Americans fighting in wars in the middle east that there this band of mercenaries that strangely seem to get involved in every conflict. From claiming the guys the Seals find fighting in mount kandahar in 2002 to 2017 war in Syria fighting alongside the FSA. I think I heard some interview of some Guy from this merc group interviewed by popular front in Syria. It might've been someone else, I forgot. Seemed like a young dude by then.
Americans snipers seem to be duped by these people and it kind of entertains me. Is there any concrete to this or is it just folklore?

[Atlantian Dominions]

there's the White Tights, who are supposedly a group of beautiful blond women, who are all biathletes, who starting in the 1980s have apparently been following the Russian military around to snipe at them

[Austrasien]

are the elusive chechnyan snipers still alive since the second war? I've heard alot of stories from Americans fighting in wars in the middle east that there this band of mercenaries that strangely seem to get involved in every conflict. From claiming the guys the Seals find fighting in mount kandahar in 2002 to 2017 war in Syria fighting alongside the FSA. I think I heard some interview of some Guy from this merc group interviewed by popular front in Syria. It might've been someone else, I forgot. Seemed like a young dude by then.
Americans snipers seem to be duped by these people and it kind of entertains me. Is there any concrete to this or is it just folklore?

It isn't very strange.

On the one hand, a substantial minority of Chechens identify with the global Islamic terrorist movement and actively take part in jihadist groups of all kinds. On the other many Chechens fight for Russia either as soldiers or mercenaries or something in-between. Russia is deeply involved in middle eastern conflicts and so their presence is ubiquitous.

So you get Chechen fighters all over.

[Husseinarti]

are the elusive chechnyan snipers still alive since the second war? I've heard alot of stories from Americans fighting in wars in the middle east that there this band of mercenaries that strangely seem to get involved in every conflict. From claiming the guys the Seals find fighting in mount kandahar in 2002 to 2017 war in Syria fighting alongside the FSA. I think I heard some interview of some Guy from this merc group interviewed by popular front in Syria. It might've been someone else, I forgot. Seemed like a young dude by then.
Americans snipers seem to be duped by these people and it kind of entertains me. Is there any concrete to this or is it just folklore?

In the early years of GW2 they weren't uncommon, but over time experienced dudes from the various conflicts died off and instead more younger, more radical types filled the ranks.

So while you still will very much so find Chechens fighting in various conflicts that involve Islam, you will be hardpressed to find veterans of conflicts with the Russians still fighting.

Both the Russians and Americans found themselves targeting them very often with very high kill weapon like drone strikes or helicopter-launched ATGMs.

Can you find a vet of Gronzy 1994 in A-stan today? Ehhhh. But can you find a kid who grew up in Gronzy in the 2000s and now is fighting in Syria? Yes.

[Gallia-]

Pretty sure the youngest Chechen war veterans of any stripe are going to be in their late 30's or early 40's, so they probably have a family or something.

Not even the staunchest Kadyrovites can escape the dad bod.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm tempted to have my Scandi-equivalent scrap/downgrade their Baltic surface fleet into a coast guard and just have all the submarines.
Y/n

[Gallia-]

y

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Is there anything at all that could stop a Swedish cruise missile from going through to St. Petersburg once it launches? <.<

[Gallia-]

an airplane i guess

[New Visayan Islands]

Is there anything at all that could stop a Swedish cruise missile from going through to St. Petersburg once it launches? <.<

How fast are the cruise missiles in question?

[The New California Republic]

Is there anything at all that could stop a Swedish cruise missile from going through to St. Petersburg once it launches? <.<

A Smörgåsbord decoy. The missile won't be able to resist it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Is there anything at all that could stop a Swedish cruise missile from going through to St. Petersburg once it launches? <.<

How fast are the cruise missiles in question?

It's probs going to be something sedate like a submarine launched Storm Shadow.

[New Visayan Islands]

How fast are the cruise missiles in question?

It's probs going to be something sedate like a submarine launched Storm Shadow.

Not sure if the Kashtan or the Pantsir-M is capable of intercepting a missile flying at Mach 0.8, although competent ASW would most likely render that moot.

[The New California Republic]

It's probs going to be something sedate like a submarine launched Storm Shadow.

Not sure if the Kashtan or the Pantsir-M is capable of intercepting a missile flying at Mach 0.8, although competent ASW would most likely render that moot.

It is intended for use against cruise missiles. One of Pantsir's intended targets is HARM, which is supersonic, so subsonic PGM's are not an issue.

[Gallia-]

It's probs going to be something sedate like a submarine launched Storm Shadow.

Not sure if the Kashtan or the Pantsir-M is capable of intercepting a missile flying at Mach 0.8, although competent ASW would most likely render that moot.

Considering they can't intercept a plane moving at half that speed with a much larger radar signature...

It would be impossible for Russia to seriously counter before it happens, obviously. OTOH Russia could easily nuke every populated urban area in Sweden in retaliation several times over.

Not sure if the Kashtan or the Pantsir-M is capable of intercepting a missile flying at Mach 0.8, although competent ASW would most likely render that moot.

It is intended for use against cruise missiles. One of Pantsir's intended targets is HARM, which is supersonic, so subsonic PGM's are not an issue.

Vatniks posting their L's.

[Langenia]

Are air defense systems, like the S-400, no matter how good they are at detecting the enemy plane, really that effective in actually shooting them down?

[The New California Republic]

Are air defense systems, like the S-400, no matter how good they are at detecting the enemy plane, really that effective in actually shooting them down?

Actual S-400 combat data, relative to other SAM systems, that we can pore over is practically non-existent. There are bucketloads of combat data on legacy systems like the S-75, S-125, S-200 etc if you want to look, but I'm assuming that you are wanting to limit the scope to newer systems.

[Langenia]

Are air defense systems, like the S-400, no matter how good they are at detecting the enemy plane, really that effective in actually shooting them down?

Actual S-400 combat data, relative to other SAM systems, that we can pore over is practically non-existent. There are bucketloads of combat data on legacy systems like the S-75, S-125, S-200 etc if you want to look, but I'm assuming that you are wanting to limit the scope to newer systems.

Yes, I'm looking for newer systems. Is there any data on the Patriot system?