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Postby Gallia- » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:22 am

AEK-971 will probably come back. Maybe. They've made a 6mm Unified one and are testing it as a baseline for Russia's NGSW equivalent.

Whether it'll actually be built is a real question I guess.

If anything comes of it, it almost certainly won't be a BARS system. It might be gelled propellant though.

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Postby Imperio de la Costa » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:37 pm

What vehicle type is better for mountains and/or rainforests; wheeled, or tracked? Initially I was thinking tracked because they're usually better when it comes to off-road operations, but at the same time they're usually pretty heavy and bulky. Wheeled vehicles like the BTR series seemed to do alright in mountainous areas like Afghanistan, but I'm not sure how well they would fair in dense foliage. Basically I'm torn, so what do you guys think?

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:33 pm

To get below the price-point of an M72 LAW($750) or 40mm HEDP, you're going to need like a $500 technical pulled out from the clunker-pile and given about $100 worth of armor-plating (wood and sandbags in the trunk).... Then get really good driving using rearview mirrors as vision periscopes.

And even then all you've managed to make is an ersatz hillbilly-armored HMMWV or narco-tank.
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Imperio de la Costa wrote:What vehicle type is better for mountains and/or rainforests; wheeled, or tracked? Initially I was thinking tracked because they're usually better when it comes to off-road operations, but at the same time they're usually pretty heavy and bulky. Wheeled vehicles like the BTR series seemed to do alright in mountainous areas like Afghanistan, but I'm not sure how well they would fair in dense foliage. Basically I'm torn, so what do you guys think?

Tracked.

Not many wheeled vehicles have enough tractive "grunt" to consistently push trees out of the way... maybe ram a single tree with a 5 ton MRAP and then get stuck.

Similar problems when dealing with boggy ground and mountains.

If you're dealing with forested bogs in the mountains you kinda need tracked vehicles.

And even then... bushwhacking in a tank is not recommended.
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Postby Austrasien » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:48 am

Imperio de la Costa wrote:What vehicle type is better for mountains and/or rainforests; wheeled, or tracked? Initially I was thinking tracked because they're usually better when it comes to off-road operations, but at the same time they're usually pretty heavy and bulky. Wheeled vehicles like the BTR series seemed to do alright in mountainous areas like Afghanistan, but I'm not sure how well they would fair in dense foliage. Basically I'm torn, so what do you guys think?


Motorcycles and tanks.

1. Experiments (and logic) confirm the speed of a light vehicle in a forested area is dictated mostly by its width.
2. Sufficiently heavy tracked vehicles can crush a significant amount, though not all, vegetation.
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Postby Danternoust » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:20 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote: Then get really good driving using rearview mirrors as vision periscopes.

No, just rotate the front seat, and replace the steering wheel with a gear, and add another gear wheel, and run two more gears and a shaft in parallel to transmit the driver's rotational movements.

This might result in aircraft-style joystick control, but it is doable.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:23 pm

Danternoust wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote: Then get really good driving using rearview mirrors as vision periscopes.

No, just rotate the front seat, and replace the steering wheel with a gear, and add another gear wheel, and run two more gears and a shaft in parallel to transmit the driver's rotational movements.

This might result in aircraft-style joystick control, but it is doable.

This isn't even as good as kattsun's drunk-posting.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:17 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Danternoust wrote:No, just rotate the front seat, and replace the steering wheel with a gear, and add another gear wheel, and run two more gears and a shaft in parallel to transmit the driver's rotational movements.

This might result in aircraft-style joystick control, but it is doable.

This isn't even as good as kattsun's drunk-posting.

My solution is simpler and removes risky direct vision ports.

...


Do you want overhead protection with that?
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Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Danternoust » Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:48 am

Okay, I should get back to designing a World of Tanks tech tree using not particularly original vehicles.

Maybe World of Warplanes in my instance.

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Postby Gallia- » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:09 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Danternoust wrote:No, just rotate the front seat, and replace the steering wheel with a gear, and add another gear wheel, and run two more gears and a shaft in parallel to transmit the driver's rotational movements.

This might result in aircraft-style joystick control, but it is doable.

This isn't even as good as kattsun's drunk-posting.


I haven't drunkposted in MONTHS schnookums. ):
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Postby Kassaran » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:47 am

Gallia- wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:This isn't even as good as kattsun's drunk-posting.


I haven't drunkposted in MONTHS schnookums. ):

Well, at least since last year... :<
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:41 pm

Been reading Instruments of Darkness by Alfred Price. It's about EW in WWII and I found this gem I feel people need to be made aware of:
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:31 am

Which countries use women to fly fighter aircraft and which do not?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:01 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Which countries use women to fly fighter aircraft and which do not?

Why is that of importance?
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:05 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Which countries use women to fly fighter aircraft and which do not?

You can find a comprehensive list here
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Postby Dayganistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:11 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Which countries use women to fly fighter aircraft and which do not?

If you want female fighter pilots for your NS nation you can have them without having to use a similar RL nation to justify it.
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Postby Amidia- » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:18 pm

Gallia- wrote:PA-48 Enforcer vs Super Tucano.

Go.

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:40 am

Were there any female warriors (i.e. combatants) in Muhammad’s army? I have googled this but the sources contradicted each other
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Postby Rosmana » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:55 am

I wonder, does my military lack a certain weapon type?, though I think I have everything I need. :)

But constructive criticism is welcomed. :D

Its in my main factbook.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ros ... id=1354538
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Postby Corindia » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:56 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Were there any female warriors (i.e. combatants) in Muhammad’s army? I have googled this but the sources contradicted each other

If you've already read the sources and they contradict each other, what definitive answers do you expect from us?

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Postby Somerania » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:03 am

Rosmana wrote:I wonder, does my military lack a certain weapon type?, though I think I have everything I need. :)

But constructive criticism is welcomed. :D

Its in my main factbook.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ros ... id=1354538

The Rapier won't be able to stop everything
Something like a Scud-C or Iskander-M will easily get through and your communications can be easily disabled through the use of anti radiation missiles, navy will be at risk if an enemy uses modern anti-ship missiles and MBTs aren't really useful in ALL types of terrain, modern light tanks will get the upper hand (yes they exist and are cheaper to manufacture)

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Postby Rosmana » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:05 am

Somerania wrote:
Rosmana wrote:I wonder, does my military lack a certain weapon type?, though I think I have everything I need. :)

But constructive criticism is welcomed. :D

Its in my main factbook.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ros ... id=1354538

The Rapier won't be able to stop everything
Something like a Scud-C or Iskander-M will easily get through and your communications can be easily disabled through the use of anti radiation missiles, navy will be at risk if an enemy uses modern anti-ship missiles and MBTs aren't really useful in ALL types of terrain, modern light tanks will get the upper hand (yes they exist and are cheaper to manufacture)

The navy has modern CWIS, is that not enough? :)

So, light tanks and better anti missile defenses?

Any ideas? :)
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