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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:19 pm

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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Which group is more likely to have health complications? Middle aged men or 16 year old girls? Also the recruitment age is generally young. 35 to 55 year olds will be there because they already joined. But you can get more active service years out of them the younger you recruit.

Getting pregnant qualifies as a health complication in military service.

So now you'd have a bunch of inexperienced risk-taking young girls driving in the middle of the badlands with absolute minimal supervision just as they've hit puberty.

What could possibly go wrong?

Best you can reasonably get is JROTC-style WASPS/WAACS ferrying empty cargo-planes.

Are most 16 year old girls that slutty?

In the UK I checked the average loss of virginity age is 18 but maybe this is a combination of people lying on forms and the fact I used to live in a middle class area (which is also where I go to high school).
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:20 pm

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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Which group is more likely to have health complications? Middle aged men or 16 year old girls? Also the recruitment age is generally young. 35 to 55 year olds will be there because they already joined. But you can get more active service years out of them the younger you recruit.

Getting pregnant qualifies as a health complication in military service.

So now you'd have a bunch of inexperienced risk-taking young girls driving in the middle of the badlands with absolute minimal supervision just as they've hit puberty.

What could possibly go wrong?

Best you can reasonably get is JROTC-style WASPS/WAACS ferrying empty cargo-planes.

In Sharifistan most women are virtuous
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:41 pm

Your ages for various jobs are essentially arbitrary and not connected to any difference in the difficulty of the job, development at that age, gender influence on ability, or any other real factors. There not wrong, they just don't make any sense. If you want to arbitrarily say certain jobs can be joined at different ages, feel free to say that is what your nation does. But don't come here looking for a justification for your decision.

As to recruiting from the population that is bellow the age of 18, there generally isn't a reason to do that unless you are in desperate need of manpower and have already taped into the other age pools. Under 18 you are quickly going to be running into issues not just with mental development but also with physical development. Both of which will hamper the ability of a 16 year old to serve in a real capacity. Notably in real life conscriptions generally use up their population in the 20-30 age bracket before they start touching their sub 18 age bracket.

The BBC article you link to is largely about using those under the age of 18 to infiltrate criminal organizations, specifically gangs. This has nothing to do with military reconnaissance and very little to do with national level HUMINT.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:51 pm

If we would cease entertaining somebody obsessed with those incapable of legal consent that would be splendid.
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Postby Austrasien » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:21 pm

Manokan Republic wrote:At what age do you think it’s best for people of my country to become artillery corpsman specialists? Bare in mind that the people of my country age twice the rate pf normal races of humans BUT, this in addition to the square root of a fractal derived pi, or, 3.14 repeating. Also divorce is common after 28 if that helps at all.

Also! At what age do you think it’s best to assign a wife to a military officer of an infantry unit, during heavy war time, but that isn’t on the front lines, and that has only light weapons training? I need to know pls this is important information. Also what is the role of train conductors in a modern warfare environment? Each manokan platoon has six train conductors, but I think that’s a bit much as the manokan military hasn’t operated a single train since 1976.


uh im going to say 13.328+13.328j though im assuming your people age in the complex plane
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Postby Danternoust » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:14 pm

You don't need a person to operate a gun.

A robot firing blindly is just as effective as most soldiers.

What people are needed for is occupation.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:40 pm

Danternoust wrote:You don't need a person to operate a gun.

A robot firing blindly is just as effective as most soldiers.

What people are needed for is occupation.

A robot firing blindly is as likely to hit your guys as the enemy.
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:21 pm

What's the difference between blast-fragmentation and continuous-rod warheads for munitions? What drawbacks does each have? Would it make sense to just embrace one over the other?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:04 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:What's the difference between blast-fragmentation and continuous-rod warheads for munitions? What drawbacks does each have? Would it make sense to just embrace one over the other?

A continuous rod warhead can be understood as a type of blast-fragment warhead, where the design is such that the blast/fragment do not go out in a spherical shape but in a rod shape. Thus a continuous rod warhead is more efficient because it is spreading it's blast out over a smaller frontage than a spherical blast, but at the expense of having little effect on targets in front of or behind it when it detonates.

Thus a continuous rod warhead makes the most sense when you can guarantee that a target is going to be alongside the warhead, but less sense if you can not guarantee the target will be alongside the warhead.

Standardizing on spherical vs rod (or some other form of directional explosive) isn't really a valid discussion as they are both used for different things and don't cost more or less than each other. You use whichever makes more sense for the application the munition is envisioned for.
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Postby Austrasien » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:49 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:What's the difference between blast-fragmentation and continuous-rod warheads for munitions? What drawbacks does each have? Would it make sense to just embrace one over the other?


https://www.jhuapl.edu/Content/techdige ... -Brown.pdf

Continuous rod warheads don't have any significant application outside of aircraft destruction. Pound for pound they are superior to fragmentation warheads at that.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If we would cease entertaining somebody obsessed with those incapable of legal consent that would be splendid.

They're capable of consent in Britain, the majority of US states and most of the world. What makes the laws of your country universally better the laws of another?
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Postby Great Nortend » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If we would cease entertaining somebody obsessed with those incapable of legal consent that would be splendid.

16 year olds are capable of consent you know in most jurisdictions.
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:58 am

He's asked, multiple times, if "soldiers having underage concubines" would "increase/reduce morale" or whatever and specified something like 14 years old.

Besides that he has a weird fixation on bizarrely large age gaps of 25-30-somethings dating 14-16 year olds.

Considering he's literally been banned for it at least once it's hardly surprising he's just skirting along the edge of good taste.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:24 am

Great Nortend wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If we would cease entertaining somebody obsessed with those incapable of legal consent that would be splendid.

16 year olds are capable of consent you know in most jurisdictions.

Thank you
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:25 am

Gallia- wrote:He's asked, multiple times, if "soldiers having underage concubines" would "increase/reduce morale" or whatever and specified something like 14 years old.

Besides that he has a weird fixation on bizarrely large age gaps of 25-30-somethings dating 14-16 year olds.

Considering he's literally been banned for it at least once it's hardly surprising he's just skirting along the edge of good taste.

I'm pretty sure I was talking about 16-17 not "fourteen"
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Postby Great Nortend » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:33 am

Although to be fair, it seems a bit odd to be mooting various ways of placing 16–17 year olds in the military. Surely there are more important things to consider in a military than whether or not concubines would improve morale? Like food perhaps? I don't know about you, but I doubt soldiers care much for carnal pleasures on the battlefield.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:50 am

Gallia- wrote:Just put hentai pamphlets in their rations or something.

Galla probably literally does this.

Sharifistani chad warriors would prefer a real life virgin to an eroticised cartoon
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:33 am

Gallia- wrote:Ah yes the virgin "masturbate in the MRAP" vs the chad "take a flock of the village girls out to the woods every weekend".

Why are you obsessed with rape?
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:34 am

Hmm, the mental gymnastics are strong with this one.

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Postby Gallia- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:35 am

A soldier taking a girl's virginity is rape unless they're married or something I guess, if only due to the power imbalance. It's not consent if you implicitly (or literally) hold a gun to her head, obviously.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:36 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Ah yes the virgin "masturbate in the MRAP" vs the chad "take a flock of the village girls out to the woods every weekend".

Why are you obsessed with rape?

Why are you obsessed with polygamy and under age age service in the military?
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Postby New Vihenia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:36 am

So yeah. Im taking a liking on some smol vehicles that can fit within the confines of Chinook or Mi-17's.. those "Golf Carts" looks cool.

Now here's an idea... so basically i want to make sumthin... maybe 3 meter in length, and some 2 m at most in width. The innovative thing about this is that i might consider adopting a Mid engine. This would ensure that vehicle's Cg to be perfectly in center. Not gonna do much for ride but i consider amphibious capability. Center Cg might simplify the design somehow. The hull would be something like Carbon fiber, monocoque with titanium or aluminum "skeleton" water propulsion would be maybe waterjet or oars j/k.
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