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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:43 pm

http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/econmi ... tions.html


I pretty much use this and whatever regular NS statistics are.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:44 pm

Independence Hill wrote:http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/econmicCalculations.html


I pretty much use this and whatever regular NS statistics are.

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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:46 pm

Sorry, I was trying to answer another participant's question about where to get the Productivity Score.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:51 pm

Independence Hill wrote:http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/econmicCalculations.html


I pretty much use this and whatever regular NS statistics are.


Alrighty... 605.85 x 35000 = 21,204,750

21204750 / 404000000 = 0.0525

sqrt 0.0525 = 0.23

0.23 + 125 equals... 125.23...

Honestly, why bother with all of the other calculations since they will combined never be greater than one? Your IQ at this juncture is just that economic score.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 pm

Because it would be nice to know we can figure out details of the game that make sense and can change based on our actions and the game's reactions. We just need to make the spread larger.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:58 pm

Try 21204750 / 4040000

Square Root the answer. Add that to your classification score.
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Postby Velarland » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:00 pm

The Official Average IQ Score for the Federal Republic of Velarland is
88.96


a little bit on the lower end but i might try to change that

Intelligence is 29.66
HDI is 59.30
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:02 pm

Independence Hill wrote:Because it would be nice to know we can figure out details of the game that make sense and can change based on our actions and the game's reactions.


Here's my equation:

[ Population (in millions) / Education Score ] x 100 = YOUR IQ


For me: 34595 / 28711 = 1.205 x 100 = 120.5

Given that IQ is an age-based comparative quantity, this holds more effectively.

Edited: Well. for me at least.

I tried it with yours, and I got 50-ish.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:13 pm

Godular wrote:
Independence Hill wrote:Because it would be nice to know we can figure out details of the game that make sense and can change based on our actions and the game's reactions.


Here's my equation:

[ Population (in millions) / Education Score ] x 100 = YOUR IQ


For me: 34595 / 28711 = 1.205 x 100 = 120.5

Given that IQ is an age-based comparative quantity, this holds more effectively.

Edited: Well. for me at least.

I tried it with yours, and I got 50-ish.

I tried all the methods of calculating IQ and I got 125 on all of them. I think NS should add an average IQ stat into the game.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:17 pm

I might need to practice with your equation because it's a little off. Maybe it's me.
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Postby Ordysius » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:25 pm

Doing the original calculation, I got an average of 151 IQ!? :geek:


Drew Durrnil wrote:Take 4 on this equation:


For this I got 83.19... :(

Is there a stat that's better than Public Education that could be used in determining national IQ? My government isn't a big spender per se.
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Postby Ordysius » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:33 pm

Independence Hill wrote:I might have an equation that works for every nation or region of nations universally


It works well, thanks! I got 125.1, which is a reasonable score for a country.


Independence Hill wrote:
This isn't perfect. I have to refine this a little more, but it does make sense to tie economic classification to scoring because IQ is a decent predictor of success.


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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:46 pm

(HDI + Intelligence) x Productivity Score = (x)

√(x) / 100 = y

y + Economic Classification Score = IQ.

66.29 + 40.65 = 106.94

106.94 x 20,000 = 2,138,800

√(2,138,800) = 1,462.46367476

1,462.46367476 / 100 = y or 14.6246367476

14.6246367476 + 110 = 124.6246367476

I'm trying to go for an equation that everyone can use to get a realistic IQ score.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:48 pm

Ordysius wrote:
Independence Hill wrote:I might have an equation that works for every nation or region of nations universally


It works well, thanks! I got 125.1, which is a reasonable score for a country.


Independence Hill wrote:
This isn't perfect. I have to refine this a little more, but it does make sense to tie economic classification to scoring because IQ is a decent predictor of success.


Exactly!




Thank you. I really appreciate it.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:51 pm

Independence Hill wrote:(HDI + Intelligence) x Productivity Score = (x)

√(x) / 100 = y

y + Economic Classification Score = IQ.

66.29 + 40.65 = 106.94

106.94 x 20,000 = 2,138,800

√(2,138,800) = 1,462.46367476

1,462.46367476 / 100 = y or 14.6246367476

14.6246367476 + 125 = 139.6246367476

I'm trying to go for an equation that everyone can use to get a realistic IQ score.


You should've used 110 for your economic classification score instead of 125.

With this calculation, I got 171. At least this time it wasn't off the charts.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:55 pm

Godular wrote:
Independence Hill wrote:(HDI + Intelligence) x Productivity Score = (x)

√(x) / 100 = y

y + Economic Classification Score = IQ.

66.29 + 40.65 = 106.94

106.94 x 20,000 = 2,138,800

√(2,138,800) = 1,462.46367476

1,462.46367476 / 100 = y or 14.6246367476

14.6246367476 + 125 = 139.6246367476

I'm trying to go for an equation that everyone can use to get a realistic IQ score.


You should've used 110 for your economic classification score instead of 125.

With this calculation, I got 171. At least this time it wasn't off the charts.



lol, I thought I fixed it before anyone saw it. Yes, it was a mistake and I did change it to 110.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:51 pm

I think we have a winner... I've tested my equation from a few different angles and it seems to return a realistic result. I hope this helps others in the future.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:37 pm

Another reason why I'm confident: The Just of Tzo is in the top 1% for Intelligence at 713.73. Add that to their HDI it comes out to 74.63. This gives us a grand total of 788.36. Their economy is listed as fair, so we multiply 788.36 by 4000. This gets us 3,153,440. The square root of that number is 1775.7927807. Divide that number by 100 and that gets us 17.757927807. Add that to their economic classification score - 90 - and we get 107.76 rounded up. What's interesting about this result is that this nation scores first place in quips per hour. Their economic classification is a real drag. I feel like this equation really holds water.
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Postby Independence Hill » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:45 am

I've tested this on several nations since last night. I haven't returned a result less than 60 or greater than 172
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:02 am

Independence Hill wrote:I've tested this on several nations since last night. I haven't returned a result less than 60 or greater than 172

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Postby Independence Hill » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:15 am

Sorry, it just took me a while to get it figured out and I'm excited at the idea that no better equation will come along. I've sent this to NSDossier (BigTex) in the hopes that it is added to the calculator and the equation is added to the formulae. Probably a very fat chance, but we'll see.
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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:00 pm

So, my nations intelligence + HDI. That would be about 228.75, rounded off 229 IQ avg
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Postby Godular » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:54 pm

Independence Hill wrote:Sorry, it just took me a while to get it figured out and I'm excited at the idea that no better equation will come along. I've sent this to NSDossier (BigTex) in the hopes that it is added to the calculator and the equation is added to the formulae. Probably a very fat chance, but we'll see.


Fix your OP... folks are still using the old calculation.
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Postby The Soylent Green Party » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:26 pm

Ok I have an easy solution...
HDI + ( Intelligence/7 )
HDI is already a 1-110 stat, it's perfect for representing half of IQ on it's own. If you divide Intelligence by 7 you affectively turn Intelligence into a 1-100 stat. easy peasy no fuss :idea:
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Postby Independence Hill » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:37 pm

Thanks, I'll use your equation if or when mine fails.
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