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Postby Kasa Tkoth Sphere » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:27 am

Average K-Sphere IQ of 141.13 actually just statistical error. Average Freed has IQ 100 but simply speeds their thoughts up by eight orders of magnitude. IQ Hod, who needs one-half of the maximum possible computing volume you can get from a star's worth of power and has an IQ of 12 septillion, is an outlier and should not be counted.
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Postby Santa Selena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:32 pm

Here's a solution that I thought up of for the 200+ iq problem.

If the average iq is above 200, then you will divide by the first digit. For example, 230 would became 115 (230/2), and 380 would become 126.3333...(380/3).

You don't have to do it, but if you want a realistic-ish answer, you may wanna try this.
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Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:38 pm

Null. See first post.
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I might have a working equation

Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:15 pm

Null. See first post.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:39 pm

Independence Hill wrote:I might have an equation that works for every nation or region of nations universally. Take what I originally had, HDI + Intelligence. Now, let's take part of the formula from NSDossier that is used to calculate exchange rates. (HDI + Intelligence) multiplied by your productivity score. (HDI + Intelligence x P) Then divide that by 404,000,000.

Find the square root of the answer from above.

The square root from the answer you get from above should be added to the number assigned to your economic classification.

Here's a good prototypical chart to go by- Frightening 125, All-Consuming 120, Powerhouse 115, Thriving 110, Strong 105, Good 100, Reasonable 95, Fair 90, Developing 85, Weak 80, Fragile 75, Struggling 70, Basketcase 65, Imploded 60.

To demonstrate. My regional HDI is 66.29 and my Intelligence is 40.65 quips per hour. That's 106.94.

106.94 x Productivity = 2138800.

2138800/404,000,000 = 0.0052940594

square root of 0.0052940594

0.07276028724 + (Economic Classification Score) = IQ

0.07276028724 + 110 = 110.07

This isn't perfect. I have to refine this a little more, but it does make sense to tie economic classification to scoring because IQ is a decent predictor of success.

This method is no more complex or difficult than the method to calculate exchange rates for currency.


What 'productivity score'?
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Postby MineLegotia and Equestria » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:43 pm

If we were to use the old equation, MineLegoEquestrians would have an average IQ of (213.41 + 98.08) = 311.49.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:54 pm

I have a new IQ equation that makes up for the missing 'productivity' score:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 4,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:58 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:I have a new IQ equation that makes up for the missing 'productivity' score:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 4,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps


Just glancing at that one, it would likely cause my purported IQ to jump into the billions. Actually no... I'd have to measure my IQ in moles.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:03 pm

Godular wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:I have a new IQ equation that makes up for the missing 'productivity' score:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 4,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps


Just glancing at that one, it would likely cause my purported IQ to jump into the billions. Actually no... I'd have to measure my IQ in moles.

Take 2 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.
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Postby Hfhbsd » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:08 pm

Using the original formula, 97.68+172.36 (HDI and Intelligence, respectively)= 270.04, which is capped to 200.
Using Drew Durnil's formula, ((97.68+172.36)*(100.12/100))*(24,312.68/6000) = ~1643.31 (In order: HDI, Intelligence, Economy, 100, Public Education, and 4000)
Then I divide it by 1, which (surprisingly) gets me ~1643.31
Unless I made a mistake somewhere, the "improved" formula is even less reasonable. Well, actually, both are kind of unreasonable, but this is NS, so IDK. Perhaps if your average IQ is over 200, subtract it by the logx of (IQ-200)? That might help. Try plugging in various values for X, or switch 200 with a different number.
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Answer to what a productivity score is

Postby Independence Hill » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:09 pm

The concept of a Productivity Score I took from the NSDossier NationStates calculator. Productivity is based on what your Economy is classified. My nation of nation's economy is listed as thriving, so its score is 20k. I'm applying the same universality to calculating IQ that the equation to calculate exchange rates applies.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:10 pm

Hfhbsd wrote:Using the original formula, 97.68+172.36 (HDI and Intelligence, respectively)= 270.04, which is capped to 200.
Using Drew Durnil's formula, ((97.68+172.36)*(100.12/100))*(24,312.68/6000) = ~1643.31 (In order: HDI, Intelligence, Economy, 100, Public Education, and 4000)
Then I divide it by 1, which (surprisingly) gets me ~1643.31
Unless I made a mistake somewhere, the "improved" formula is even less reasonable. Well, actually, both are kind of unreasonable, but this is NS, so IDK. Perhaps if your average IQ is over 200, subtract it by the logx of (IQ-200)? That might help. Try plugging in various values for X, or switch 200 with a different number.

I made a mistake sorry
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:10 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Godular wrote:
Just glancing at that one, it would likely cause my purported IQ to jump into the billions. Actually no... I'd have to measure my IQ in moles.

Take 2 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the left-most digit.


Welp, let's do this...

605.85 for step 1.

Step 2, just to be sporting I'll do the stat as its reported in the first pages and go by how many 'trillions' I got. 19772.7 /100 = 197.7

Step 3: 197.7 x 605.85 = 119,776.5

Step 4: 28711 / 6000 = 4.785

Step 5: 119776.5 x 4.785 = 573,150.5

Step 6 (being sporting): Divide by 5... 114,630 average IQ...

The funny thing is that IQ calculations are jumbled-up numbers anyway.
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Postby Never was New England » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:12 pm

Using Drew Durrnil's equation, my country's IQ is 127.6

HDI: 75.53
Intelligence: 46.93
Economy: 94.81
Public Education: 4396.13
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:15 pm

Independence Hill wrote:The concept of a Productivity Score I took from the NSDossier NationStates calculator. Productivity is based on what your Economy is classified. My nation of nation's economy is listed as thriving, so its score is 20k. I'm applying the same universality to calculating IQ that the equation to calculate exchange rates applies.


How do you actually get the score? I do not know where to find it.

At this point I'm just trying things out to see how insane my stat is.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:18 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Godular wrote:
Just glancing at that one, it would likely cause my purported IQ to jump into the billions. Actually no... I'd have to measure my IQ in moles.

Take 2 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.

Take 3 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.

Step 7 (optional): If the last step still got you over 200, divide your 'Step 6' quotient by a number 1-10 to get your number below 200.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:19 pm

I would still be over 10 thousand.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:22 pm

Godular wrote:I would still be over 10 thousand.

Okay, fixed.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:32 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Godular wrote:I would still be over 10 thousand.

Okay, fixed.


That change makes it even higher, as now I am dividing by a 3 instead of a 5.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:35 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:Take 2 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.

Take 3 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.

Step 7 (optional): If the last step still got you over 200, divide your 'Step 6' quotient by a number 1-10 to get your number below 200.


Take 4 on this equation:

Step 1: Add your 'HDI' stat by your 'Intelligence' stat

Step 2: Divide your 'Economy' stat by 100

Step 3: Multiply your divided 'Economy' quotient to you 'HDI' + 'Intelligence' sum

Step 4: Divide your 'Public Education' stat by 6,000

Step 5: Multiply your divided 'Public Education' stat from the product of the first 3 steps

Step 6 (optional): If you average IQ is above 200, divide it by the value of the third left-most digit.

Step 7 (optional): If the last step still got you over 200, divide your 'Step 6' quotient by a number 1-10 to get your number below 200.

Step 8 (optional): If 'Step 7' didn't work, keep dividing by 2 until you get a number below 200.

I swear, if this doesn't work, I will quit trying any harder and Godular's score will be automatically adjusted to 420.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:39 pm

150, roughly.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:40 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:150, roughly.

Acceptable.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:41 pm

I had to divide by 2 to the 7th power to eventually get 149.3 IQ. I'm still thinking that IQ calculations are crud anyway.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 pm

Godular wrote:I had to divide by 2 to the 7th power to eventually get 149.3 IQ. I'm still thinking that IQ calculations are crud anyway.

Yeah, if you have to reach step 8 I will consider your average IQ as 'Uncalculable'
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Postby Kasa Tkoth Sphere » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 pm

Don't overthink this. If you want a more compact spread, take the OP's original suggestion, divide by 100, cube-root, multiply by 100.

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