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Baddlands
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Founded: Oct 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Baddlands » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:08 pm

You guys have flag burning?
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Ihsalihna
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Postby Ihsalihna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:10 pm

Illegal as the official national flag bears the name of Allah written on it. It's also illegal to burn any flag that bears the name of Allah or the Prophet, or the flag of the Imam. It's perfectly legal to burn unofficial or historical flag to represent opposition to the government.
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Flarbinia
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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:12 pm

Illegal

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Reuturn
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Founded: Apr 20, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Reuturn » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:26 pm

Defacement of the Reuturnian flag?
Illegal, as it is a national symbol.
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Indigoja
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Founded: Jul 01, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Indigoja » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:47 pm

Within the nation of Indigoja, the national flag is property of whoever purchased it. Therefore, you are free to burn your own property if you please, but the burning of anyone elses property is highly illegal.

Although, the national flag is the accepted symbol for the predominant religion of Indigoja as well. So, if one were to burn the flag, they would be shunned and feel dissent by the spiritual community.

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Free Republic of Hong Kong
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Founded: Mar 26, 2020
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Postby Free Republic of Hong Kong » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:26 pm

Not illegal . Flag burning is protected explicity by Bill of Rights because many seem flag burning is an act against an tyrannical goverment
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Italia Romanum
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Founded: May 22, 2020
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Postby Italia Romanum » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:32 pm

Burning a standard outside of it's retirement is considered a criminal act, and depending on the context of the crime it can range from something as light as a whipping and forced procurement of a replacement, to something as severe as decimation (If done by soldiers to their standard or another armies.)

These codes are strictly enforced, especially in regards to the royal standard used by the state.These penalties are not enforced in regards to the standards of non allied parties, or non recognized entities. Desecration and burning of an Imperial standard almost always carries with it a severe punishment.
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Hobbes Dystopia
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Postby Hobbes Dystopia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:31 am

Illegal. All signs of dissent will be quelled.
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Shalotte
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Founded: Oct 15, 2008
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Postby Shalotte » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:58 am

The flag has no particular significance to Shalottes. Shalotte didn't even have a flag until the mid-20th century, when it was created for participation in international affairs.

Shalotte's flag doesn't hang on public buildings, and doesn't particularly feature anywhere that Shalottes themselves might see it.

There is, therefore, no law around burning the flag. Culturally-speaking, a Shalotte would find the act to be bizarre, but meaningless.

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Shadow Deix
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Founded: Jul 21, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Shadow Deix » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:13 am

Flag burning is not considered illegal if it is for protest. However most do believe this law should be changed: the decision to reverse it has been gathering momentum in the Kilosme (parliament).

If it is not for protest, fines can be handed of up to 8500 rubles (worth about $100) depending upon the circumstances.

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Betelgeuse Alliance
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Postby Betelgeuse Alliance » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:36 am

Flag burning is completely okay. Legislatively restricting this practice in any way goes against the individual's rights to personal liberty and freedom of speech and expression.
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Socialist Macronesia
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Postby Socialist Macronesia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:43 am

Sure, you CAN burn the flag and it is legal.

But our Ministry of Internal Security/Affairs might take offence. You don't want to be on MIS/MIA's bad side. Especially after the incident with the gun that was invisible to x-rays the airport security breach.

That being said, you probably might get involved in an unfortunate mugging down the line, which went bad, and you are dead, and we can't find your body, and aren't going to bother looking. Oh, well. Much more important things to worry about, like taxes, or something.
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Tundina
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Founded: Jun 13, 2020
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Postby Tundina » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:46 am

burning the flag is not illegal, but as we are one of the few free nations in our world your allegiances would become heavily questioned by neighbours, local law enforcement and the government at large.

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Zurkerx
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Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:47 am

Burning the flag (or any flag) within the Constitutional Empire is legal, so long as the flaming flag isn't used as a weapon to burn property or inflict harm on others.
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Reutoa
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Postby Reutoa » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:52 am

Flag Burning is currently legal within Reutoa however every few years or so members of the Conservative Party introduce Legislation to make it illegal but it never makes it out of Committee. The current President ran on making it illegal, describing it as "Insulting to Veterans across Reutoa's Military." His re-election campaign has already released a statement that he still supports making it Illegal but also adding punishments like a fine or up to 2 years in Prison.
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Theedland and Eastrike
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Founded: Jul 06, 2020
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Postby Theedland and Eastrike » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:41 am

Flag burning, whether it be of the national flag, royal standard, or any other state or civil ensign in official use, is illegal in Theedland and is punishable as a form of sedition.

Flag burning is punished as a misdemeanour in the Magistrate's Courts, and renders the offender liable to fine or corporal punishment, with or without imprisonment for any term not less than six months and not exceeding two years.

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Agarntrop
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:08 am

Burning, defacing, damaging or otherwise disrespecting via any means the federal flag of Taliana is a class 4 federal offence that carries a maximum penalty of 14 years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. However, in practise federal flag burning is rarely prosecuted and if it is imprisonment is rarely imposed in favour of a fine. In the past 50 years there has only been four cases of people being imprisoned for federal flag burning in Taliana's history, none of which have ever been given a term exceeding 4 months.

However, the legality of burning state flags varies by state, but is also usually considered illegal.
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The Army of DxD
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Founded: Jun 30, 2020
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Postby The Army of DxD » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am

The penalty for burning the flag of DxD depends on who's burning it:
- Civilian: No penalty
- Soldier: Will be demoted or discharged
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Alzatia
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Founded: Feb 16, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Alzatia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:39 am

The offense of desecrating state symbols was abolished in 2013. But even prior to that, it never saw much use in practice.
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The Thestral Directorate
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Founded: Apr 13, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Thestral Directorate » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:53 pm

Flag burning of the Thestral national flag is legal in the Thestral Directorate, but not the national flag of foreign nations, which is a misdemeanor. It must, however, be compliant with the law – flag burning can in some circumstances be considered disorderly conduct or arson. Worn-out flags may also be disposed by burning it safely.

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:55 pm

People that burn the La xingan flag are burned in a massive fire with thousands of people watching. People set up their food stands and advertise there, since it has been turned into a show! :/
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Neuer Deutsches Reich
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Postby Neuer Deutsches Reich » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:58 pm

Not that it would ever happen, but...


The punishment would be to become a flesh shield for the army, so you feel how those who died defending the flag felt. You will be let go when you die.
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Marsoslavia
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Postby Marsoslavia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:08 pm

Illegal. Also, you can be lynched by mob, with impunity. If not, you will be sentenced from 1 month to 1 year in prison.
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Romance and Reverie
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Postby Romance and Reverie » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:27 pm

Illegal, voids citizenship.

If the flag desecrator was privy to sensitive information as a citizen, the result would be an execution for espionage.

If not, the flag desecrator will be detained, and given two weeks to find a nation that'll accept him/her as a refugee.

If no such nation is found, the flag desecrator is given two choices:

1. Repent, and start over by continuing to live in Romance and Reverie, but now without citizenship, through a student/work visa.

2. Be executed.

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Estado Novo Portugues
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Founded: Mar 18, 2016
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Postby Estado Novo Portugues » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:48 pm

Portuguese flag: 5 years in prison or unlimited fine.
Foreign flag: no punishment.
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