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Imarssia
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Postby Imarssia » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:38 am

Imarssian recognition of Israel has shifted throughout it's history. First not recognizing it's existence during it's Communist era due to our left's hatred of the rich and the Jews.
Since the fall of Communism however, we recognize both nations but are neutral towards either of them.

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Postby Greater Cosmicium » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:02 am

Greater Cosmicium recognizes neither country because in 2142, the Unified State of the Levant, containing both Israel and Palestine as its states, was conquered by the Southern European Army of Cosmicium.
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Postby Almurta » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:45 am

Israel is the only civilized states in the Middle East, by which we refer to their stances on human rights, gender quality, LGBT recognition, tolerance in broader society for non-majority ethnic and religious backgrounds, and other issues.

If it was not already clear, yes. We recognize and support Israel, with support taking the form of political, financial, and material works. We do not give Palestine, which does not exist, the same considerations.
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Ravennog
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Postby Ravennog » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:49 am

So, um, this may sound crazy. In our universe, we invaded Israel and Palestine and made it a colony. Definitely not war-profiteering, right?
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Postby Vaeruio » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:51 am

The Israeli territory has been Vaeruioan for centuries. However, before that Israel was home to two major states. Palestine and Egypt. Both states were recognized by the early Vaeruioan state.

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Coldsteel
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Postby Coldsteel » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:52 am

Israel is real good comrade against hourglassian. However israeli, no matter what religion are banned from Coldsteel, due to a fight in jerusalem thousands of years ago.

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:04 am

Yes, and only Israel. TurtleShroom considers any occupier of the Holy Land that is not Jewish or Christian to be illegitimate. Furthermore, despite countless places across Nationstates claiming to be the Holy Land or Israel, TurtleShroom only recognizes one.
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Saronistan
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Postby Saronistan » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:19 am

Yes. For Saronistan both Nations have the right to exist .

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Avystan
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Postby Avystan » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:26 am

Avystan and Israel have very tense diplomatic relations, but we fully recognise israel with Jerusalem as her capital and Gaza, West Bank and the Golan Heights being a part of Israel

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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:27 am

Israel?

Don't you mean the autonomous Sancak of Jerusalem and the Vilayet of Palestine within the Ottoman Empire?
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Postby Peoples Papal States » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:32 am

His eminence apreciates the reclimation of the holy land from the Muslim hordes.

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British Socialist Syndicates
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Postby British Socialist Syndicates » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:41 am

The State of Israel does not exist in this universe. However, there is a Jewish state in southern Africa, known as New Judea, with whom Britain generally has friendly relations.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:45 am

Sao Nova Europa recognizes the state of Israel and also acknowledges Jerusalem as its capital. The current center-right European government has cordial relations with the Israeli administration and recognizes them as important allies in the region.
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:00 pm

We voted yes for partition in 1947. We have full diplomatic relations since 1948. We have in general friendly relations, strained during the first and second intifadas, currently we have important ties with Israel; economic ties, educational, R+D projects, visas agreement, tourism and cultural with Israel.
In general the left when is in the oposition and Alt Left call for recognize Palestine and cut ties with Israel. But, generally the left forgets that when in power (like buying-selling military equipment to Israel or from Israel or the Inteligence collaboration among the Mossad and Shin bet and (SIE and DGIS) and We have contacts with Palestine but not an official recognition.

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We looked on the other side to Israeli efforts to get war surplus during 1947-1949.
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Postby Greater Eireann » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:12 pm

Israel and Palestine do not exist in our universe, as the region was given to Greater Eireann after a war long ago. We are currently looking into turning the region into a partially separate state, the Kingdom of Judea, under a personal union with our queen, instead of keeping it in the category of colony. So we will be recognising the Kingdom of Judea.
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The Wiccan Israel
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Postby The Wiccan Israel » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:57 pm

I mean . . . look at our name. :roll:

The State of Israel's humble beginnings inspired the establishment of The Wiccan Israel. Just as they have established a Jewish state, we have established a Wiccan state. For this reason, we recognize Israel, but we also recognize the State of Palestine. Israel's borders should have never been pushed beyond the pre-1967 border. As a result, public opinion on the State of Israel has gone down, while The High Priest of the Wiccan Israel has spoken positively about the "two-state solution".
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Imperial Republic of Arkania
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Postby Imperial Republic of Arkania » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:49 pm

Arkania recognizes Israel and does not consider Palestine to be a sovereign country, but rather a rogue state. However, despite a pro-Israel government, Arkania condemns the occupation of Golan Heights.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:41 pm

Yes

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Postby Finnish Socialist Republic- » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:52 pm

As of 1948, yes, alongside the USSR.
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:59 pm

Israel is recognised (but does not include disputed regions, which are treated as independent).
Palestine is recognised.
Officially, they are recognised as overlapping almost totally.
Jerusalem is not totally either (its jurisdiction is split four ways*, and requires a total consensus of those four for any governmental action).

* In our timeline which is now in the late 2090s, and diverged from real life in the 2010s.
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Postby Ayytaly » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:05 pm

No. The status of Israel is not concrete, and it's "reasons" to be contradict one another. For example: Is it a theocracy? Then why are atheists allowed there? The intentions to have a "Jewish homeland" were clearly based on religious interpretation of the Old Testament.

By default, we recognize Palestine's sovereignty and not the UN's decision from 1947.
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Postby Lancov » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:12 pm

Lancov recognizes both Israel and Palestine.
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Postby Revolutionary Indiana » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:19 pm

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The National Revolutionary Party did not recognize either Palestine or Israel. Our citizens, the Revolutionary Hoosiers, are taught to believe that the Party owns all land in the world and would manage it to the best benefit of the Revolutionary Hoosier people. The Ministry of Enlightenment denies that any states exist in the world besides the Revolutionary State of Indiana.
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Postby Emperio Maharlika » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:24 pm

The Philippines has, since the Sixth Commonwealth, adopted an Israel-first approach; various weapons trade agreements and joint military exercises have been organised between the two nations ever since the adoption of compulsory conscription in 2025, with former Punong Bongbong Marcos justifying that “we [The Philippines] have a lot to learn from them in terms of defence.”

In removing the Philippine embassy from Palestine on the same year (urging all Filipino expats to move out of Palestine beforehand), it has de facto removed its official recognition of Palestine as a state.
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All are Equal
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Postby All are Equal » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:26 pm

Yes we do. In fact, we're one of her staunchest allies!

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