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St George of England
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Postby St George of England » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:52 pm

Licana wrote:
St George of England wrote:errrrr, ok. I need a compliment to my carrier based force of Lightning IIs. Any thoughts?

Do you need a fighter, or a more multirole craft?

i'd say multi role. due to my military's obsession with tactical bombing.
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Postby Estainia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:28 am

Now that we've established that we can host multi-paragraph arguements over the superiority[inferiority] of the F-35 to the Suhkoi T-50 I've a simple request. SHUT UP ABOUT IT. /Op

Find another multi-role that fits your bill, St. George; I suggest the Harrier.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:33 am

Develop your own. Real world stuff really doesn't exist here. Northrop never existed in NS.
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Postby Estainia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:34 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Develop your own. Real world stuff really doesn't exist here. Northrop never existed in NS.


RL stuff doesn't exist here? -Looks at the LEGIONS of F-15's in the Imperial Airforce. Looks at the LEGIONS of M1A2 Abrams in the Imperial Armored Divisions.- Rly now? It's a well known fact that any thing that exists in reality can be domestically produced by anyone regardless of economic ability.
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Postby Satirius » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:48 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Develop your own. Real world stuff really doesn't exist here. Northrop never existed in NS.

Tell that to colo

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:32 am

Estainia wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Develop your own. Real world stuff really doesn't exist here. Northrop never existed in NS.


RL stuff doesn't exist here? -Looks at the LEGIONS of F-15's in the Imperial Airforce. Looks at the LEGIONS of M1A2 Abrams in the Imperial Armored Divisions.- Rly now? It's a well known fact that any thing that exists in reality can be domestically produced by anyone regardless of economic ability.


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Postby Crimson PieRats » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:48 am

The "Harpoon" seaplane fighter is our primary firghter aircraft. Used on coastal defense, it is considered ideal because of the lack of need for fixed airfields and can operate from any river, harbor or lagoon.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 52 ft 7 in (16 m)
Wingspan: 33 ft 8 in (10.3 m)
Height: 16 ft 2 in (4.9 m)
Wing area: 568 ft² (53 m²)
Empty weight: 12,625 lb (5,730 kg)
Loaded weight: 16,500 lb (7,480 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 21,500 lb (9,750 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Infratrial J46-2 turbojets, 6,100. lbf (27 kN) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 825 mph (1,325 km/h)
Range: 513 mi (446 nm, 826 km)
Service ceiling: 54,800 ft (16,700 m)
Rate of climb: 17,100 ft/min (86.7 m/s)
Wing loading: 29.0 lb/ft² (142 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: .56 (max loaded).96 (empty)

Armament
Guns: 4 × 20 mm (0.79 in) cannon
Missiles: 2 × air-to-air missiles

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Postby Sucrati » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:44 am

St George of England wrote:
Licana wrote:Do you need a fighter, or a more multirole craft?

i'd say multi role. due to my military's obsession with tactical bombing.



I have a brand new Multi-Role :)

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Postby Alternate Germany » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:17 am

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Postby Imeriata » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:20 am

Alternate Germany wrote:The Fokker D.VII is the primary fighter of the Luftstreitkräfte.

Enjoy my official approval for choosing a great airplane!
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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:50 am

Alternate Germany wrote:The Fokker D.VII is the primary fighter of the Luftstreitkräfte.
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You get my sticker of approval for picking arguably one of the best fighters of WW1.
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So was the M-16.

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Postby Saurisia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:55 am

Alternate Germany wrote:The Fokker D.VII is the primary fighter of the Luftstreitkräfte.
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Congratulations, Human, you've picked one of the finest fighters of WWI! Well done!
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West Podunk
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Postby West Podunk » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:05 pm

Officially, West Podunk does not have an air force. As a moderately populated island nation, no air force has ever been thought necessary.

Our navy is classified in all respects. We do have a Chief of Naval Operations and there are an unknown number of naval personnel. No government owned naval vessel has ever been sighted, announced, or rumoured.

The local press assumes that our navy operates as an adjunct force that is present on some, none, or all shipping registered in West Podunk.

We also have a fairly large and fiercely competitive armaments industry, some of which is thought [rumoured] to operate one or more ships to demonstrate their wares. It is not known if the crew of such ships is loyal to the arms merchant or is enlisted in the navy.

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The only aircraft thought to be in current production is known as the Manta Ray. Mantas have furlable wings [multi-geometry], are capable of landing and taking off on water, can be launched via booster rocket, are equipped with AI/remote piloting, are stealthy, and can utilize surface effect capabilities [very low flying, slow, and capable of very long flight times].

Weapons are thought to be exchangeable depending on mission. A very sophisticated ECM suite and target detection gear are thought to be fitted, including interfaces with remote sensors and/or other units.

Propulsion methods and thus operational capabilities of the Manta are unknown.

No photos of the Manta Ray have been published. No foreign government has admitted to buying any Manta Rays although several are thought to have seen demonstrations of at least partial capabilities.

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There is a further rumour of partial sightings of an unknown, unclear nature that might be stretched into an aircraft under development.

"Moving lights" or visual effects have been reported in the sky. All claimed sightings have occurred at night in a remote, desolate area. Although some people claim to have taken photos, the resulting images have all been mysteriously damaged.

There have been a few odd, inexplicable incidents in the area; crop circles, injured animals, unusual sounds and/or animal behaviours. These may or may not be related to the "moving lights" claimed to be seen in the sky.

No known weapons manufacturer admits to having any operations whatever in this area, nor does any major corporation or the government [aside from the usual domestic radar using flight control systems].

The government claims that reports of UFOs are completely unfounded, in this or any other area, and suggests that everyone who claims any "encounter" with alien species or artifacts is at least mistaken [if not outright crazy].

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Postby Greater Rhodes » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:38 pm

The Royal Air Force's main stealth multirole fighter plane is the F-35 Lighting II, known in Greater Rhodes as the A-19 Falcon, while our main air superiority aircraft is the HAL FGFA, called the A-18 Aquila by the Royal Air Force, and our main interceptor is the Shenyang J-8T, known as the A-17 Tornado
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The Sentenial Empire
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Postby The Sentenial Empire » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:18 pm

The Canadian Pacific wrote:
The Sentenial Empire wrote:
Anything that can be shot down by your average infantryman with technology from the 80s is a waste of money...Sentenial Gunships are reserved to helicopters.

You mean the helicopters that get chewed up by MANPADs?


We disable most anti air positions before moving in...Off shore and high altitude cruise missile bombardment is generally pretty efficient. If all else fails insertion will be on foot, vehicle, and artillery untill it becomes irrelevant for the enemy to hold their AA positions.
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Postby The Sentenial Empire » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:20 pm

West Podunk wrote:Officially, West Podunk does not have an air force.
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A moderately populated island with no airforce? Man if took out all of your shipments you'd be done without any fighting.
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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:24 pm

The Sentenial Empire wrote:
The Canadian Pacific wrote:You mean the helicopters that get chewed up by MANPADs?


We disable most anti air positions before moving in...Off shore and high altitude cruise missile bombardment is generally pretty efficient. If all else fails insertion will be on foot, vehicle, and artillery untill it becomes irrelevant for the enemy to hold their AA positions.


Without dedicated fighters? That would be a pretty good waste of resources. And helicopters are some of the easiest aircraft to target with man-portable SAMs.

To be quite honest, an invasion against an airstrip (usually a valuable and heavily guarded resource) or an attack on a carrier (which is equally well guarded and a tad more mobile than a static airstrip). Even with cruise missiles, that's still risky as they CAN be intercepted and (depending on the tracking systems) even jammed. Meanwhile, while your "insertion" of troops is getting torn apart by CAS and bombers.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby Minnysota » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:26 pm

Using only helos is also kind of ignoring the fact that I could launch WWII era fighters and take them out :meh:
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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:29 pm

Altamirus wrote:
The Sentenial Empire wrote:
A moderately populated island with no airforce? Man if took out all of your shipments you'd be done without any fighting.

Yeah the biggest prioty of a island usually should be in building up a good airforce and navy unless you have a good bit of geological features protecting you.

I don't think that there are many island geological features that would protect from a good airstrike.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Axecta » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:31 pm

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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:49 pm

St George of England wrote:
Licana wrote:Do you need a fighter, or a more multirole craft?

i'd say multi role. due to my military's obsession with tactical bombing.

Well you could have an additional carrier-based fighter and have something based on the F-14D, excellent fighter due to its high speed, great maneuverability, very low cost, and wide selection of weapons. The Supercat was a very capable anti-air and anti-ground platform.

If you're looking into an airbase, ground-launched aircraft, F-16E/F (Block 60) is your best shot. It's like a Lightning II for land. Except better because the USAF Lightning II can't carry a B61 tactical nuke.
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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:50 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
St George of England wrote:i'd say multi role. due to my military's obsession with tactical bombing.

Well you could have an additional carrier-based fighter and have something based on the F-14D, excellent fighter due to its high speed, great maneuverability, very low cost, and wide selection of weapons. The Supercat was a very capable anti-air and anti-ground platform.

If you're looking into an airbase, ground-launched aircraft, F-16E/F (Block 60) is your best shot. It's like a Lightning II for land. Except better because the USAF Lightning II can't carry a B61 tactical nuke.

I agree with everything, however the B61 is hardly a viable wartime weapon, and was, for my understanding, made for the lulz.
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

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Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Sucrati » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:51 pm

Licana wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:

Well you could have an additional carrier-based fighter and have something based on the F-14D, excellent fighter due to its high speed, great maneuverability, very low cost, and wide selection of weapons. The Supercat was a very capable anti-air and anti-ground platform.

If you're looking into an airbase, ground-launched aircraft, F-16E/F (Block 60) is your best shot. It's like a Lightning II for land. Except better because the USAF Lightning II can't carry a B61 tactical nuke.

I agree with everything, however the B61 is hardly a viable wartime weapon, and was, for my understanding, made for the lulz.


He's got that fighter lol

I sold him some of my new ones available in my shop, Veri Military Industries.
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Postby Crimson PieRats » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:17 pm

The CP also owns and operates a few SeaHarrier V/STOL fighters for use aboard the Island class carriers, and on the Motherships as the mission dictates.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 46 ft 6 in (14.2 m)
Wingspan: 25 ft 3 in (7.6 m)
Height: 12 ft 4 in (3.71 m)
Wing area: 201.1 ft² (18.68 m²)
Empty weight: 14,052 lb (6,374 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 26,200 lb (11,900 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Rolls-Royce Pegasus turbofan, 21,500 lbf (95.64 kN)

Performance
Maximum speed: 635 knots (735 mph, 1182 km/h)
Combat radius: 540 nmi (620 mi, 1,000 km)
Ferry range: 1,740 nmi (2,000 mi, 3,600 km)
Service ceiling: 51,000 ft (16,000 m)
Rate of climb: 50,000 ft/min (250 m/s)

Armament
Guns: 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) ADEN cannon pods under the fuselage,with 100 rounds per cannon
Hardpoints: 4× under-wing pylon stations holding up to 5,000 lb (2,268 kg) of payload
Rockets: 4× Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each
Missiles: **
Air-to-air missile:
AIM-9 Sidewinder
AIM-120 AMRAAM
R550 Magic (Sea Harrier FRS51)
Air-to-surface missile:
ALARM Anti-radiation missile (ARM)
Martel missile ARM
Anti-ship missile:
Sea Eagle

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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Licana wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:

Well you could have an additional carrier-based fighter and have something based on the F-14D, excellent fighter due to its high speed, great maneuverability, very low cost, and wide selection of weapons. The Supercat was a very capable anti-air and anti-ground platform.

If you're looking into an airbase, ground-launched aircraft, F-16E/F (Block 60) is your best shot. It's like a Lightning II for land. Except better because the USAF Lightning II can't carry a B61 tactical nuke.

I agree with everything, however the B61 is hardly a viable wartime weapon, and was, for my understanding, made for the lulz.

It's a tactical nuke, not the Tsar Bomba, god.
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