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Postby Fischermann » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:59 pm

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United Republics of Aralon wrote:Intimidating,but not very airplanish. If you want something implying death go with Vulture perhaps?

It has nothing to do with death. The guy that was heading the design team produced an aircraft so good that the Arch Duke promised him the right to name it. And as he happens the guy was a Masters of the Universe fan.
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Postby Novikov » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:43 pm

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Purpelia wrote:Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

I'd go with something like Reaper. Perhaps Deathhawk or some other combination of words that make it sound like an underworldly-bird-of-prey, if you're going for that like Aralon said.
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Postby Ea90 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:25 pm

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I figured I might as well try drawing a fighter.
So I made an F-16.
How'd I do (it's my first try, pls go easy)?

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Postby Galla- » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:29 pm

Nozzle should be petaled. Nose is OK, pitot tube is a bit fat, intake is skimpy.

It's very good for a first aeroplane.
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Postby Ea90 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:59 pm

Galla- wrote:Nozzle should be petaled. Nose is OK, pitot tube is a bit fat, intake is skimpy.

It's very good for a first aeroplane.

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Postby New Vihenia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:08 pm

Eventually i make myself.. basically a single engined PAKFA to replace another basically a single engined Flanker

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Postby Zhouran » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:58 pm


List of fighter planes used by the National Air Force.


Currently the main fighter jet is the F-7.
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The F-8 is used for air defense.
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The Su-27SK, bought from Russia, is currently the only heavy fighter in service.
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Postby Lydenburg » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:07 pm

Up until this point, I've been using Mirage F1s and Mirage IIIs for multirole performers - which worked fine back when I had more docile neighbours who were still using MiG-19s and Hawker Hunters. Now I'm beginning to learn the hard way that there's only so much you can do with a vintage airframe and a Cyrano radar; one doesn't even need a stealth fighter for my pilots to fail in detecting the threat - much less engaging it - before they're blown out of the sky.

Looking about a Mirage 4000 knockoff instead. I've got this thing for Dessault aircraft, see. Any experts here spare some relevant advice?

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby McNernia » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:46 pm

Perhaps some sort of domestic thing based off of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo
Just an idea for a Gen 4.7 or so fighter.
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Postby Ea90 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:58 am

Galla- wrote:Nozzle should be petaled. Nose is OK, pitot tube is a bit fat, intake is skimpy.

It's very good for a first aeroplane.

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Better?

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Postby Galla- » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:01 am

Ea90 wrote:
Galla- wrote:Nozzle should be petaled. Nose is OK, pitot tube is a bit fat, intake is skimpy.

It's very good for a first aeroplane.

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Better?


I can't tell a difference between the intakes.

By petaled, I mean:

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They are colloquially called "turkey feathers" but that is a stupid name.
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Postby Ea90 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:03 am

Galla- wrote:I can't tell a difference between the intakes.

This one is considerably longer and fatter.

Galla- wrote:By petaled, I mean:

(Image)

They are colloquially called "turkey feathers" but that is a stupid name.

Ah okay.
Gimme a sec.

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Postby Ea90 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:17 am

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How about now?
E: And what would I have to do to make an F-16 carrier compatible?
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:54 am

Lydenburg wrote:Up until this point, I've been using Mirage F1s and Mirage IIIs for multirole performers - which worked fine back when I had more docile neighbours who were still using MiG-19s and Hawker Hunters. Now I'm beginning to learn the hard way that there's only so much you can do with a vintage airframe and a Cyrano radar; one doesn't even need a stealth fighter for my pilots to fail in detecting the threat - much less engaging it - before they're blown out of the sky.

Looking about a Mirage 4000 knockoff instead. I've got this thing for Dessault aircraft, see. Any experts here spare some relevant advice?


A ridiculous Mirage 4000 knock-off is more or less the starting point for the M.Cs 82 I designed a while ago. :P

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Postby McNernia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:51 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:Up until this point, I've been using Mirage F1s and Mirage IIIs for multirole performers - which worked fine back when I had more docile neighbours who were still using MiG-19s and Hawker Hunters. Now I'm beginning to learn the hard way that there's only so much you can do with a vintage airframe and a Cyrano radar; one doesn't even need a stealth fighter for my pilots to fail in detecting the threat - much less engaging it - before they're blown out of the sky.

Looking about a Mirage 4000 knockoff instead. I've got this thing for Dessault aircraft, see. Any experts here spare some relevant advice?


A ridiculous Mirage 4000 knock-off is more or less the starting point for the M.Cs 82 I designed a while ago. :P


Maybe a Mig-29 Lydenburg or something like that. Or maybe like the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen?
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Postby Crookfur » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:58 am

Lydenburg wrote:Up until this point, I've been using Mirage F1s and Mirage IIIs for multirole performers - which worked fine back when I had more docile neighbours who were still using MiG-19s and Hawker Hunters. Now I'm beginning to learn the hard way that there's only so much you can do with a vintage airframe and a Cyrano radar; one doesn't even need a stealth fighter for my pilots to fail in detecting the threat - much less engaging it - before they're blown out of the sky.

Looking about a Mirage 4000 knockoff instead. I've got this thing for Dessault aircraft, see. Any experts here spare some relevant advice?


Whats wrong with spiffy Mirage 2000s?
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Postby Maharo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:33 am

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:46 am

Maharo wrote:Mine is The MIG-25 Foxbat


You use a high altitude Interceptor designed to shoot down U-2's and Bombers as well as recon as a Fighter?
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Went back and Redid the wings of my Twin Engine V/STOL from a few months back, I'm also tinkering a bit with the color scheme and details. Also going back and finishing stats and writeup.
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Stats: (Very Subject to Change)
Crew: 2 Side By side seating: Pilot/Commander, Copilot/Weapons Officer
Armament:
-2x 30mm Revolver Cannons w/ 125 rounds each.
-2x Forward Bays w/ 1 AAM each
-1x Main bay w/ Rotary Launchers for Up to 6000kg of munitions.
-Up to 6 Under-wing Hard-points (up to 750 Kg Each)
Length: 20.2 Meters
Width: 18.9 Meters
Height: 3.1 Meters (4.3 Meters w/ Landing Gear)
Power-plant:
2x YoyoDyne Propulsion Mk 15 Low Bypass Twin Spool Turbofans. W/ 160 Kn of thrust each. 2-D TVC +/- 25 Degrees during normal flight. In addition nozzles can swivel downwards to 90 Degrees for V/STOL operations. (Still Working on figuring how much Thrust they put out in Lift mode)
1x Forward Lift Fan, 100 KN of Thrust.
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Top Speed: Mach 2+
Super-cruise: Mach 1.5
Cruise Speed: Mach .8
Ceiling: 18,000 Meters
Weight: 20,000 Kg empty, 30,000 Kg Loaded
MTOW: 38,000 Kg
Range 3,000 Km
Combat Radius 1,250 Km
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:59 am

Crookfur wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:Up until this point, I've been using Mirage F1s and Mirage IIIs for multirole performers - which worked fine back when I had more docile neighbours who were still using MiG-19s and Hawker Hunters. Now I'm beginning to learn the hard way that there's only so much you can do with a vintage airframe and a Cyrano radar; one doesn't even need a stealth fighter for my pilots to fail in detecting the threat - much less engaging it - before they're blown out of the sky.

Looking about a Mirage 4000 knockoff instead. I've got this thing for Dessault aircraft, see. Any experts here spare some relevant advice?


Whats wrong with spiffy Mirage 2000s?


They look amazingly sleek but they're also badly outperformed by MiG-29s (RL, the Indian Army actually held several mock dogfights with British pilots to test this one out), an aircraft which is my main concern at the moment.

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby Crookfur » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:34 am

Lydenburg wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Whats wrong with spiffy Mirage 2000s?


They look amazingly sleek but they're also badly outperformed by MiG-29s (RL, the Indian Army actually held several mock dogfights with British pilots to test this one out), an aircraft which is my main concern at the moment.


Well depending on exactly which flavour of MiG-29 you would be facing the Mirage 2k coudl happily just sit back and BVR the MiGs to death.

of coruse no NS MiG-29 oeprator utilises anything but the sannziest varient they have heard of and completly ignore the typical MiG-29 oeprator issues i.e. restricted training because the airframe and engine are IIRC very short lifed (as is everything on the -29) high fuel usage and oddly enough smoke trails. To be honest a fully kitted out air defence Mirage-2000 froce with a proper western level amount of training is going to at least be a match for even the most awesome MiG-29 operator ever.

of coruse if you wan tto have fun and develope your own -4000alike then thats even cooler and i woudl encourage that.

I'm just a sucker for a pretty plane and the -2000 is VERY pretty which is why my single seater interceptor will be very 2000ish if i ever get around to doing it..
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:41 am

Crookfur wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:
They look amazingly sleek but they're also badly outperformed by MiG-29s (RL, the Indian Army actually held several mock dogfights with British pilots to test this one out), an aircraft which is my main concern at the moment.


Well depending on exactly which flavour of MiG-29 you would be facing the Mirage 2k coudl happily just sit back and BVR the MiGs to death.

of coruse no NS MiG-29 oeprator utilises anything but the sannziest varient they have heard of and completly ignore the typical MiG-29 oeprator issues i.e. restricted training because the airframe and engine are IIRC very short lifed (as is everything on the -29) high fuel usage and oddly enough smoke trails. To be honest a fully kitted out air defence Mirage-2000 froce with a proper western level amount of training is going to at least be a match for even the most awesome MiG-29 operator ever.

of coruse if you wan tto have fun and develope your own -4000alike then thats even cooler and i woudl encourage that.

I'm just a sucker for a pretty plane and the -2000 is VERY pretty which is why my single seater interceptor will be very 2000ish if i ever get around to doing it..


What do you think of these?

http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/f/f7/TAFURsingleseater.png
http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/b/b0/TAFURsinglefront.jpg

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby Crookfur » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:42 am

Lydenburg wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Well depending on exactly which flavour of MiG-29 you would be facing the Mirage 2k coudl happily just sit back and BVR the MiGs to death.

of coruse no NS MiG-29 oeprator utilises anything but the sannziest varient they have heard of and completly ignore the typical MiG-29 oeprator issues i.e. restricted training because the airframe and engine are IIRC very short lifed (as is everything on the -29) high fuel usage and oddly enough smoke trails. To be honest a fully kitted out air defence Mirage-2000 froce with a proper western level amount of training is going to at least be a match for even the most awesome MiG-29 operator ever.

of coruse if you wan tto have fun and develope your own -4000alike then thats even cooler and i woudl encourage that.

I'm just a sucker for a pretty plane and the -2000 is VERY pretty which is why my single seater interceptor will be very 2000ish if i ever get around to doing it..


What do you think of these?

http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/f/f7/TAFURsingleseater.png
http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/b/b0/TAFURsinglefront.jpg


VERY VERY nice!
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Postby McNernia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:46 am

Lydenburg wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Well depending on exactly which flavour of MiG-29 you would be facing the Mirage 2k coudl happily just sit back and BVR the MiGs to death.

of coruse no NS MiG-29 oeprator utilises anything but the sannziest varient they have heard of and completly ignore the typical MiG-29 oeprator issues i.e. restricted training because the airframe and engine are IIRC very short lifed (as is everything on the -29) high fuel usage and oddly enough smoke trails. To be honest a fully kitted out air defence Mirage-2000 froce with a proper western level amount of training is going to at least be a match for even the most awesome MiG-29 operator ever.

of coruse if you wan tto have fun and develope your own -4000alike then thats even cooler and i woudl encourage that.

I'm just a sucker for a pretty plane and the -2000 is VERY pretty which is why my single seater interceptor will be very 2000ish if i ever get around to doing it..


What do you think of these?

http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/f/f7/TAFURsingleseater.png
http://images.wikia.com/apartheidroute/images/b/b0/TAFURsinglefront.jpg


Most impressive and well did you do the lineart?
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Postby FreeOlesia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:16 pm

I'll take this time to list what I have so far on my air force. The Royal Free Olesian Air Force utilise the following aircraft.

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