Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Fischermann]

The Spitfire wing is a good jack-of-all trades wing. As is the Tempest. 109s is ok but not brilliant.

Then Spitfire wings it will be. I just need a good name for the thing and some variants.(And someone who might draw this for me because I1m surre as hell can't.)
What made a night fighter pre night vision? (Apart from Schrage-Musik I tend to refrain from liking german stuff just because its nazi tech, but that was one wild fuck idea that actually worked like a charm. and I like wild fuck ideas that even work.)
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Honestly I think that the best possible layout for a fighter would be a Spitfire with the armament of a hurricane and a nose mounted 30mm. Guess what I am using.

You mean lotsa .303s? I would prefer more .50 cals or Hispanos. But I prefer 17.5x125mm Grim Repaer. 20mm punch just shifted for velocity.

I'd argue 20mm was fast enough.

Night fighters used radar.

[Elan Valleys]

The Spitfire wing is a good jack-of-all trades wing. As is the Tempest. 109s is ok but not brilliant.

Then Spitfire wings it will be. I just need a good name for the thing and some variants.(And someone who might draw this for me because I1m surre as hell can't.)

Some sort of vicious bird of prey would be good.

What made a night fighter pre night vision?

Night fighters (the successful ones anyhow) were two seaters. They could normally carry primitive radar and had someone to operate it. Otherwise it was the standard fighter but painted black and if the pilot was lucky, the exhaust would be adapted so it wouldn't blind him.

[Fischermann]

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[United Republics of Aralon]

Then Spitfire wings it will be. I just need a good name for the thing and some variants.(And someone who might draw this for me because I1m surre as hell can't.)

Some sort of vicious bird of prey would be good.

What made a night fighter pre night vision?

Night fighters (the successful ones anyhow) were two seaters. They could normally carry primitive radar and had someone to operate it. Otherwise it was the standard fighter but painted black and if the pilot was lucky, the exhaust would be adapted so it wouldn't blind him.

Then Spitfire wings it will be. I just need a good name for the thing and some variants.(And someone who might draw this for me because I1m surre as hell can't.)
What made a night fighter pre night vision? (Apart from Schrage-Musik I tend to refrain from liking german stuff just because its nazi tech, but that was one wild fuck idea that actually worked like a charm. and I like wild fuck ideas that even work.)
Y
You mean lotsa .303s? I would prefer more .50 cals or Hispanos. But I prefer 17.5x125mm Grim Repaer. 20mm punch just shifted for velocity.

Some sort of vicious bird of prey would be good.



Night fighters (the successful ones anyhow) were two seaters. They could normally carry primitive radar and had someone to operate it. Otherwise it was the standard fighter but painted black and if the pilot was lucky, the exhaust would be adapted so it wouldn't blind him.

I'd argue 20mm was fast enough.

Night fighters used radar.

How these radars worked? I guess not the "nicely display enemy position and velocity on a confy screen" way. O? Again my ignorance is deep regarding aircraft.
Flash supressors on armament?(Suppressors on schrage musik I gues there weren't but could it be done?

As for the name I'm torn between Thunderbird and Steelhawk.

EDIT:Fishcer what are those? 75mm?

[Fischermann]

Some sort of vicious bird of prey would be good.



Night fighters (the successful ones anyhow) were two seaters. They could normally carry primitive radar and had someone to operate it. Otherwise it was the standard fighter but painted black and if the pilot was lucky, the exhaust would be adapted so it wouldn't blind him.

I'd argue 20mm was fast enough.

Night fighters used radar.

How these radars worked? I guess not the "nicely display enemy position and velocity on a confy screen" way. O? Again my ignorance is deep regarding aircraft.
Flash supressors on armament? I gues there weren't but could it be done?

As for the name I'm torn between Thunderbird and Steelhawk.

No tracers, a navigator/radar operator, etc.

Go for Magpie.

[United Republics of Aralon]

Thats not something one would be intmidated by. Or what would be appropriate for something packing as much hurt as a pair of light tanks while flying around with 600km/h.

[Fischermann]

Thats not something one would be intmidated by. Or what would be appropriate for something packing as much hurt as a pair of light tanks while flying around with 600km/h.

The pilots are not supposed to be intimidated by the name, they're supposed to be intimidated by the plane so much they make up scarier names for it.

Fw 190- Butcherbird etc.

It worked adversely too.

P47 Thunderbolt - Jug

[Purpelia]

You mean lotsa .303s? I would prefer more .50 cals or Hispanos. But I prefer 17.5x125mm Grim Repaer. 20mm punch just shifted for velocity.

No, I mean 4 x 20mm autocanons.

Also, my modern day fighter is called Skeletor. How is that for a scary name?

[Elan Valleys]

You mean lotsa .303s? I would prefer more .50 cals or Hispanos. But I prefer 17.5x125mm Grim Repaer. 20mm punch just shifted for velocity.

No, I mean 4 x 20mm autocanons.

Also, my modern day fighter is called Skeletor. How is that for a scary name?

What, like this Spitfire?



Post 41 all models could accept either 8x .303, 4x .303 and 2x 20mm, 2x .50 and 2x20mm or 4x20mm in the universal wing design.

[Purpelia]

Post 41 all models could accept either 8x .303, 4x .303 and 2x 20mm, 2x .50 and 2x20mm or 4x20mm in the universal wing design.

Too little too late. Post 41 my air force would already be replacing the original aircraft with a brand new fighter. And that one has a Napier Sabre powering it. So it gets 6 x 20mm for fun.

[Elan Valleys]

Post 41 all models could accept either 8x .303, 4x .303 and 2x 20mm, 2x .50 and 2x20mm or 4x20mm in the universal wing design.

Too little too late. Post 41 my air force would already be replacing the original aircraft with a brand new fighter. And that one has a Napier Sabre powering it. So it gets 6 x 20mm for fun.

Like the Hawker Typhoon?

1941.

The earliest cannon Spits fought in the Battle of Britain.

6 20mm sounds like a heavily armed brick.

[United Republics of Aralon]

Post 41 all models could accept either 8x .303, 4x .303 and 2x 20mm, 2x .50 and 2x20mm or 4x20mm in the universal wing design.

Too little too late. Post 41 my air force would already be replacing the original aircraft with a brand new fighter. And that one has a Napier Sabre powering it. So it gets 6 x 20mm for fun.

Thats just overkill. more ammo and 4, but faster cannons would be better.

[Purpelia]

Too little too late. Post 41 my air force would already be replacing the original aircraft with a brand new fighter. And that one has a Napier Sabre powering it. So it gets 6 x 20mm for fun.

Like the Hawker Typhoon?

1941.

The earliest cannon Spits fought in the Battle of Britain.

6 20mm sounds like a heavily armed brick.

Not like the typhoon. It quite literally is a typhoon with a 30mm up its nose.
And I will probably have two variants, one with just 4x20mm for use as a fighter and one with 6x20mm for ground attack.

[Fischermann]

Like the Hawker Typhoon?

1941.

The earliest cannon Spits fought in the Battle of Britain.

6 20mm sounds like a heavily armed brick.

Not like the typhoon. It quite literally is a typhoon with a 30mm up its nose.
And I will probably have two variants, one with just 4x20mm for use as a fighter and one with 6x20mm for ground attack.

how do you have a 30mm up its nose with that engine design?

[Purpelia]

Not like the typhoon. It quite literally is a typhoon with a 30mm up its nose.
And I will probably have two variants, one with just 4x20mm for use as a fighter and one with 6x20mm for ground attack.

how do you have a 30mm up its nose with that engine design?

Any engine can have a nose mounted gun. It's a function of having a thicker drive shaft and nothing more.
Also, when ever I cite a real world piece of equipment. I am actually talking about a comparable but homebrew design that happens to have some modifications to make it more fit for my own needs. It's just that much easier to do so than to write up every minute detail of every subcomponent.

[United Republics of Aralon]

how do you have a 30mm up its nose with that engine design?

Any engine can have a nose mounted gun. It's a function of having a thicker drive shaft and nothing more.

But the whole engine has to be redesigned to cacomodate a thicker drive shaft, which in turn requires minor modifications of the airfame.

[Purpelia]

Any engine can have a nose mounted gun. It's a function of having a thicker drive shaft and nothing more.

But the whole engine has to be redesigned to cacomodate a thicker drive shaft, which in turn requires minor modifications of the airfame.

See the rest of my text. I think that covers your objections.

[United Republics of Aralon]

But the whole engine has to be redesigned to accomodate a thicker drive shaft, which in turn requires minor modifications of the airfame.

See the rest of my text. I think that covers your objections.

Whoops. Missed da edit. I always do the same thing,yet fallen into the pitfall of supposing otherwise. Though I always try to include/imply such a disclaimer.

[Purpelia]

See the rest of my text. I think that covers your objections.

Whoops. Missed da edit. I always do the same thing,yet fallen into the pitfall if supposing otherwise.

Happens to us all. I am a sort of compulsive editor anyway.

[United Republics of Aralon]

Whoops. Missed da edit. I always do the same thing,yet fallen into the pitfall if supposing otherwise.

Happens to us all. I am a sort of compulsive editor anyway.

See above post to confirm that I am too. Thats why I generally try to read back often.

[Purpelia]

Happens to us all. I am a sort of compulsive editor anyway.

See above post to confirm that I am too. Thats why I generally try to read back often.

Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

[United Republics of Aralon]

See above post to confirm that I am too. Thats why I generally try to read back often.

Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

Intimidating,but not very airplanish. If you want something implying death go with Vulture perhaps?

[Purpelia]

Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

Intimidating,but not very airplanish. If you want something implying death go with Vulture perhaps?

It has nothing to do with death. The guy that was heading the design team produced an aircraft so good that the Arch Duke promised him the right to name it. And as he happens the guy was a Masters of the Universe fan.
http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Skeletor

[Pharthan]

See above post to confirm that I am too. Thats why I generally try to read back often.

Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

I'd go with something like Reaper. Perhaps Deathhawk or some other combination of words that make it sound like an underworldly-bird-of-prey, if you're going for that like Aralon said.
What I generally do to test out a name for a design is to imagine the enemy screaming in fear of it, or imagine how they would speak about them being a menace to their war effort. "[Country X's] Wolves and Deathhawks are wreaking havoc to our lines!" Versus, "Oh no, it's the Teddy Bears!" The Teddy Bear could be a nuke-spewing machine of death, but it's name isn't exactly going to give you that sinking feeling or inspire emotions due to subconscious associations.

[Purpelia]

Speaking of that. Do you feel that Skeletor is a good name for a F-15 equivalent?

I'd go with something like Reaper. Perhaps Deathhawk or some other combination of words that make it sound like an underworldly-bird-of-prey, if you're going for that like Aralon said.
What I generally do to test out a name for a design is to imagine the enemy screaming in fear of it, or imagine how they would speak about them being a menace to their war effort. "[Country X's] Wolves and Deathhawks are wreaking havoc to our lines!" Versus, "Oh no, it's the Teddy Bears!" The Teddy Bear could be a nuke-spewing machine of death, but it's name isn't exactly going to give you that sinking feeling or inspire emotions due to subconscious associations.

Actually the latter would comply with my naming conventions rather well. I tend to take these things on the lighter side. Like for example the name of my anti infantry mines translates literally to "leg/foot biter". And all my tanks are officially designated as "armored gun carriers". Also, my IFV is called "Gargamel". And my nuclear forces have blue uniforms and wear smurf hats.