Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Euro Asian Republics]

Primary land-based fighters: F-22A Raptor, EF-2000 Typhoon, and XFA-27 Phoenix



Primary naval fighters: F-14A Tomcat (to be upgraded to B and D models in the near future) and F-22N Sea Raptor

[Strykla]

Shouldn't you factor in that America has better pilots?

Doesn't matter; F-35 is the whipping boy of suckarse. It's the worst plane ever designed and it's stealth only works against NATO radar. Russian Pilots instantly win because the 'stealth' plane is right bloody there like a christmas tree.

Mind explaining, with your obvious great seas of knowledge, why the US, UK, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway, Denmark and Israel are all potential costumers?

[Birkaine]

Because the avro arrow got cancelled and Russian monkey models are sold by the hundreds. Being ineffective doesn't always equal being unsuccesful.

[The Grand World Order]

Mind explaining, with your obvious great seas of knowledge, why the US, UK, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway, Denmark and Israel are all potential costumers?

Lobbying, the same reason that the M16 replaced the M14 with disastrous (read: Vietnam) results.

Remember, most D/MoDs are fucking retarded.

[Greater United Russia]

Fighters: Su-27, MiG-29, Su-30 and are begining to adopt Su-35BM, PAK-FA/T-50
Interceptors: MiG-25 and MiG-31,
Multi-Roles: Su-24 tactical bomber/mutirole, Su-25 CAS fixed wing craft,
Strat/Heavy Bombers: Tu-160 strategical bomber, Tu-95 [Prop]
Cargo/Transport: Il-76, An-124 heavy transports, An-12, An-22, An-26 and An-70 are all prop-driven cargo planes
AWACS: A-50
Tanker: Il-78
Helicopters: Ka-50, Ka-52, Ka-60, Mi-17, Mi-24, Mi-26 and Mi-28

[Completely overwhelming amount of information I know but I needed to get it down some where. Apologies Amerika.]

[The Corparation]

Mind explaining, with your obvious great seas of knowledge, why the US, UK, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway, Denmark and Israel are all potential costumers?

Lobbying, the same reason that the M16 replaced the M14 with disastrous (read: Vietnam) results.

Remember, most D/MoDs are fucking retarded.

I know. The X-32 was way better. I mean look how happy it was. F-35 is just depressing.

[The Corparation]

Lobbying, the same reason that the M16 replaced the M14 with disastrous (read: Vietnam) results.

Remember, most D/MoDs are fucking retarded.

And the fact that's it's cheap compared to the F-22 and the U.S is in a recession right now.

F-35: 191.9 million
F-22: 150 million
You failing to look up the price of the two aircraft beforehand: Pricless

[The Corparation]

Why not just go back to the F-18 then? 2 or 3 F-18s can be bought for the price of 1 F-22, and can beat it.

Nevermind, I thought the F-35 was cheaper since it's a multi country collabb but the unit cost on the F-35 is actually higher. Also, about an F-18 being able to beat a F-22 in combat, source? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

Well the F-35 was supposed to be cost about half of what the current price is. Then again thats what you get for trying to cram three different aircraft into one.

[The Sentenial Empire]

Crew: 1
Length: 22.6 m (74 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 15.16 m to 16.7 m (49 ft 9 in to 54 ft 9 in)
Height: 6.3 m (20 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 61.87 m² (666 ft²)
Empty weight: 16,375 kg (36,100 lbs)
Loaded weight: 25,000 kg (55,115 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 35,000 kg (77,162 lbs)
Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-37FU(planned) Flying prototypes used 2 Aviadvigatel D-30F6 afterburning,
thrust-vectoring (in PFU modification) turbofans with digital control
Dry thrust: 83.4 kN (18,700 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 142.2 kN (32,000 lbf) each
Thrust vectoring: ±20° at 30° per second in pitch and yaw

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 1.6 (Achieved in test flights [2]) (1,717 km/h, 1,066 mph)
* At sea level: Mach 1.14 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)
Range: 3,300 km (2,050 mi)
Service ceiling: 18,000 m (79,050 ft)
Rate of climb: 233 m/s (46,200 ft/min)
Wing loading: 360 kg/m² (79.4 lb/ft²)

Armament

Number of hardpoints: 14: 2 wingtip, 6-8 under wing, 6-4 conformal under fuselage

Guns: 1 × 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 150 rounds
Missiles: 14 hardpoints (2 wingtip, 6-8 underwing, 4-6 conformal under the fuselage)
Air-to-air: R-77, R-77PD, R-73, K-74
Air-to-surface: X-29T, X-29L, X-59M, X-31P, X-31A, KAB-500, KAB-1500

[Birkaine]

An F-18, even one upgraded to the E standard, will not beat an F-22 in a thousand years.

[Minnysota]

An F-18, even one upgraded to the E standard, will not beat an F-22 in a thousand years.

I do believe they said three F-18s could not only be built at the price of one F-22 but also beat that F-22.

[Birkaine]

An F-18, even one upgraded to the E standard, will not beat an F-22 in a thousand years.

I do believe they said three F-18s could not only be built at the price of one F-22 but also beat that F-22.

How? Their radars cannot even pick up the Raptor at BVR; and their airframe cannot keep up with the Raptor at WVR.

[The Sentenial Empire]

An F-18, even one upgraded to the E standard, will not beat an F-22 in a thousand years.

I do believe they said three F-18s could not only be built at the price of one F-22 but also beat that F-22.

Sadly we havn't learned anything about the wonders of LOW FREQUENCY RADAR! If a bunch of Serbs can build it and shoot down an F117 an advanced nation could surely make it even more efficient!

[The Corparation]

Well the F-35 was supposed to be cost about half of what the current price is. Then again thats what you get for trying to cram three different aircraft into one.

So they ended up discontinuing production of a awesome air superiority fighter in hopes of making a cheaper joint strike fighter but ended up making the joint strike fighter more expensive to produce than the air superiority fighter.

Exactly and they decided that they had to make 3 different versions of that fighter. Just because they thought it would be cheaper.

[Mediterreania]

Our Bombers The AC-130U "Spooky"


We also operate several other aircraft for recon, in air refueling, and traning

Great, another guy who gets his ideas from CoD 6.

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We use the F/A-18 as an air superiority fighter (due to our reliance on carriers), and the YA-28 for tactical ground attack (purchased form Yanitaria).

[Ramsetia]

I do believe they said three F-18s could not only be built at the price of one F-22 but also beat that F-22.

Sadly we havn't learned anything about the wonders of LOW FREQUENCY RADAR! If a bunch of Serbs can build it and shoot down an F117 an advanced nation could surely make it even more efficient!

I'm just gonna go to bed now. Why am I saying this here? because I know, that if america wanted to, for some reason, bomb australia with a B-2 spirit, or any other low-observable aircraft, we'd be able to detect them by the air disturbances left in their wake.

You know, basic meteorological kits. Fun times.

[The Corparation]

Our Bombers The AC-130U "Spooky"


We also operate several other aircraft for recon, in air refueling, and traning

Great, another guy who gets his ideas from CoD 6.

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We use the F/A-18 as an air superiority fighter (due to our reliance on carriers), and the YA-28 for tactical ground attack (purchased form Yanitaria).

I never posted that. The only time I posted the AC-130 was in a quote stating that it wasn't a bomber.

[Germonica]

Our newly bought F-35's are getting great reviews from our Pilots.

[The Corparation]

Great, another guy who gets his ideas from CoD 6.

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We use the F/A-18 as an air superiority fighter (due to our reliance on carriers), and the YA-28 for tactical ground attack (purchased form Yanitaria).

To be fair, the AC-130 excels at what it does. However it is not a fighter or bomber.

Your ignoring the fact that I never posted that. At all. Go back to page 2 and you'll see me pointing out that the AC-130 isn't a bomber.

[Seattile]

The standard carrior based fighter plane of the Seattile military is the F-18 Super Hornet. The main fighter plane of the Seattile Airforce is the F-22 Raptor though not in as greater numbers as the Super Hornet

[The Corparation]

Our newly bought F-35's are getting great reviews from our Pilots.

What about your wallets?

[Mediterreania]

Great, another guy who gets his ideas from CoD 6.

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We use the F/A-18 as an air superiority fighter (due to our reliance on carriers), and the YA-28 for tactical ground attack (purchased form Yanitaria).

I never posted that. The only time I posted the AC-130 was in a quote stating that it wasn't a bomber.

Whoops, I used the wrong quote tags. I'll fix it.

[United Gackle]

F-22 Silver Raptor

[Estainia]

Our newly bought F-35's are getting great reviews from our Pilots.

Your pilots must have a very low life expectancy against anyone who uses Warsaw Pact / Russian / Eastern European Radar systems.

[The Sentenial Empire]

Great, another guy who gets his ideas from CoD 6.

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We use the F/A-18 as an air superiority fighter (due to our reliance on carriers), and the YA-28 for tactical ground attack (purchased form Yanitaria).

To be fair, the AC-130 excels at what it does. However it is not a fighter or bomber.

Anything that can be shot down by your average infantryman with technology from the 80s is a waste of money...Sentenial Gunships are reserved to helicopters.