Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Socialist Republic of Andrew]

More of a F-35 to me.

An F35, plus whatever lolofduty fighter the first image is.

Also, "lightning runner" is an incredibly shitty name for a fighter.

Say what you want about it, but names do not matter in times of war with fighter jets, the only think fighter jets need to worry about is speed and the payload deliver, and so far, our version of the FA-38 lighting run fits well in both categories

[Gig em Aggies]

This is the newest addition to the vast fleet of the Gig em Aggies aircraft. This is the A-21 will work alongside the A-10 as a recon/light attack aircraft. The A-10 will soon be partially replaced by the AC-145. The A-21 can lotter over a confilct zone for 15 hrs.

fitted with 1x 105mm cannon, 2x GAU-12 mini guns, and several sensors.

[Chezek]

Saab JAS 39 Gripen

[Yes Im Biop]

(Image)
This is the newest addition to the vast fleet of the Gig em Aggies aircraft. This is the A-21 it is replacing the A-10 as the main ground support aircraft. The A-10 is being retired from active duty service and will be put to use as static displays in muesums across the country.
The A-21 is said to have better manuverability then the A-10 and can lotter over a confilct zone for 24 hrs due to its advanced pilot comfort systems like built in toilets, adjustable air conditioner, an early protype of a food replicator.

Uh... The A-10 is a Close Air Support. It has a Mission time of no longer than 12 hours and that's if you are really REALLY fucked

[Gig em Aggies]

(Image)
This is the newest addition to the vast fleet of the Gig em Aggies aircraft. This is the A-21 it is replacing the A-10 as the main ground support aircraft. The A-10 is being retired from active duty service and will be put to use as static displays in muesums across the country.
The A-21 is said to have better manuverability then the A-10 and can lotter over a confilct zone for 24 hrs due to its advanced pilot comfort systems like built in toilets, adjustable air conditioner, an early protype of a food replicator.

Uh... The A-10 is a Close Air Support. It has a Mission time of no longer than 12 hours and that's if you are really REALLY fucked

is this supposta be a compliment?

[Puzikas]

Uh... The A-10 is a Close Air Support. It has a Mission time of no longer than 12 hours and that's if you are really REALLY fucked

is this supposta be a compliment?

Nope.

That would never work realistically.

[Gig em Aggies]

is this supposta be a compliment?

Nope.

That would never work realistically.

just curious how would it not work?

[Hurtful Thoughts]

(Image)
This is the newest addition to the vast fleet of the Gig em Aggies aircraft. This is the A-21 it is replacing the A-10 as the main ground support aircraft. The A-10 is being retired from active duty service and will be put to use as static displays in muesums across the country.
The A-21 is said to have better manuverability then the A-10 and can lotter over a confilct zone for 24 hrs due to its advanced pilot comfort systems like built in toilets, adjustable air conditioner, an early protype of a food replicator.

Mission-time aside (which is more fitting with a shiny COIN), the placement of the rear elevators no longer masks the exhaust from IR surface to air missiles or physically shield the engine components from shrapnel.

This may affect survivability.

Maneuverability could in fact be worse, if the wing did not keep parity of advanced wing-surface designs (spoilerons, blown-flaps, split-flaperons that can pretty much double as dive-brakes, and dive-brakes that can when used in conjunction with the large rudder allow lateral shifts without roll or yaw for shifting fire of that 30mm BFG in the nose during a dive).

BACK TO CAS MISSION TIME ISSUES

Look at that bombload.

If a ground unit is calling-in CAS, they are rightfully boned, and are directing you to a target-rich environment.

How long do you expect a dozen AIM-65s and about 10 seconds of 30mm are going to last when faced against a tank-division in the open?
-The big issue faced with AH-64 pilots on CAS, isn't range or loiter, but the fact that they can burn through their ammo stores in about 45 seconds and barely make a dent.

Quite a few A-10s actually made passes over enemy positions long after depleting their weapons-stores, hoping the guys on the ground hadn't realized this and would take cover anyways.
-The A-10's insane loiter has found it in the new role as an observation-plane (and as such, in the hands of Army personnel)

[Anemos Major]

just curious how would it not work?

Well, the 'early prototype of a food replicator' sounds like a good place to start.

Just speaking in general, the sort of loiter time you're looking for *is* achievable in theory with modern aircraft, but the main provisos are that it's pilotless (i.e. a UCAV) and, by virtue of needing a very long operating range, it'd need to be fairly light with an engine configuration that opts more for efficiency over power. As such, you can't really build an A-10 replacement to those specifications; what'd you'd probably be looking at it a propeller-driven, high efficiency plane carrying (maybe) a few AGMs and a sensor suite.

[Yes Im Biop]

Uh... The A-10 is a Close Air Support. It has a Mission time of no longer than 12 hours and that's if you are really REALLY fucked

is this supposta be a compliment?

No. I'm saying the A-10 get's in, Rain's about 5 tons of pure fuck you and leaves. It's not a flying fortress. It's a flying tank

[Transnapastain]

is this supposta be a compliment?

No. I'm saying the A-10 get's in, Rain's about 5 tons of pure fuck you and leaves. It's not a flying fortress. It's a flying tank

Also, and this is only judging by the image, it seems to have far fewer weapons stations than the A-10.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

ANYWAYS....

Mil Mi-6 'ATTACK'
Helicopter Gunship. When I write 'Gunship', I mean a Spooky-gunship... with an 82mm cannon and up to 20 metric tons of munitions.

... Possibly nuclear.

Hu F-7Y 'Bucky'
Swing-wing masterpiece of ground-attack/multirole technology that has on several occasions, actually swept the skies clean of opposition

FMA-6D (D as in Drone)
Which is pretty much a combat-capable PQM-102 except utilizing a standard piston-engine from a trainer-aircraft modified and supercharged into a motorjet configuration.

This design also has earned the dishonorable distinction of being the first attempted indigenous design to not spontaneously explode during shakedown-trials. Its first time in-combat was very similar to how well the TBM Avenger fared against the Japanese at Midway.

F-5M2HT-Meth
Two seat hydrogen-fueled model of Aerospace Logistics F-5M modified to also handle methane pumped straight from or border-landfills in addition to liquid-fuels. Largely an advanced combat-trainer, it is also classified as a light attack aircraft.

OTHER

F-4H2 Phantom II
These planes have largely been scrapped, and what remains (5 planes, one on standby) are reserved for home defense. Another 25 have been mothballed for cannibalization. Noted for insane speeds at sea level, integrally pod-mounted 35mm cannon, and additional weapons-pylons above the wing for advanced ECM and Air Intercept Missiles. Turned heads during Operation Able Maple, and during a minor border-dispute that turned into a proxy-war against the Pudite Empire.

Some pilots still favor this plane over the F-7, its direct successor.

Guizhou JL-9
A minor purchase of purpose-built light attack/interceptor aircraft like the very similar F-5M. Used in a manner similar to the A-7 Corsair II. Ironicly, both these planes, and the F-4s purchased several decades ago, were acquired secondhand from the very same arms-supplier.

[Vitaphone Racing]

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How long do you expect a dozen AIM-65s and about 10 seconds of 30mm are going to last when faced against a tank-division in the open?
-The big issue faced with AH-64 pilots on CAS, isn't range or loiter, but the fact that they can burn through their ammo stores in about 45 seconds and barely make a dent.

And repeat

Even if this aircraft was made workable, the concept you're going after is deeply flawed. While faulty executions can be fixed, bad ideas cannot, so back to the drawing board in other words.

[Crookfur]

An F35, plus whatever lolofduty fighter the first image is.

Also, "lightning runner" is an incredibly shitty name for a fighter.

Say what you want about it, but names do not matter in times of war with fighter jets, the only think fighter jets need to worry about is speed and the payload deliver, and so far, our version of the FA-38 lighting run fits well in both categories

Actually thats not true, fighters have far more to worry about.

Of coruse if your fighter looks like an F-35 then its not even going to excel in your desired feilds (well it will be reasonable in terms of payload if you use the wing hardpoints)

[Santo Rico]

Our air force, the Santo Rican Air Force (SRAF) uses the F-16 Block 50/52 alongside the F-5E as fighter planes, also we use the C-101BB as advanced trainer jet and the C-130 and L-100 as transport plane and as AWACS we use only two Boeing 707 with a EL/M-2075 radar knowed as "South" and "Cross"

[Yes Im Biop]

Codename: "Fighter"
Powerplant, 2: 5,000HP jet turbines
A Recent Development in Biopian engineering has allowed Jet Engine's to survive the heavy stress of the Biopian atmosphere as well as to allow planes to survive the massive friction generated.

...Looking over this I have no clue how to make a plane

[Efsanevi]

Currently we opperate 310 Saab 37 Viggens and 102 Saab 35 Draken. We also opperate 5 Dassault Mirage IV and a limited number of Saab 32 Lansen's. However we are looking to replaced are fighters with the Saab JAS 39 Grepin.

[Neonistan]

This is a picture of the N-16, it just entered into active service with the Neonistan Air Force the first delivery was to the 110th Air wing at Ko-dang air base in north east Neonistan. It is said that their are about 500 N-16's in service and about 250 more in production. the reason for the N-16 is said to be to help "upgrade" the Air Force to help weaken or destroy any invaders.

[The Akasha Colony]

Codename: "Fighter"
Powerplant, 2: 5,000HP jet turbines
A Recent Development in Biopian engineering has allowed Jet Engine's to survive the heavy stress of the Biopian atmosphere as well as to allow planes to survive the massive friction generated.

...Looking over this I have no clue how to make a plane

Hint: fighter engine output is not normally measured in horsepower.

[Yes Im Biop]

Codename: "Fighter"
Powerplant, 2: 5,000HP jet turbines
A Recent Development in Biopian engineering has allowed Jet Engine's to survive the heavy stress of the Biopian atmosphere as well as to allow planes to survive the massive friction generated.

...Looking over this I have no clue how to make a plane

Hint: fighter engine output is not normally measured in horsepower.

Really?

[The Akasha Colony]

Hint: fighter engine output is not normally measured in horsepower.

Really?

Not for turbofan engines. It's measured in thrust, either foot-pounds or kilonewtons. Turboprops are still often measured in horsepower but they're not used in fighters.

[Marshonia]

The Wasp Fighter Jet model B-78. Equipped with heavy machine guns and with a top hypersonic speed of 1100 MPH. Can carry deadly Air To Air missiles and is equipped with an anti-heat seeking missile device. Can carry small Air To Ground Missiles that are still big enough to level small structures.

[Atakan]

[region-tag=][/region-tag] my nation has 20 su-37 http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-37
15 su-25 http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-25
8 mitsubishi F-2 http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_F-2

[Pharthan]

The Wasp Fighter Jet model B-78. Equipped with heavy machine guns and with a top hypersonic speed of 1100 MPH. Can carry deadly Air To Air missiles and is equipped with an anti-heat seeking missile device. Can carry small Air To Ground Missiles that are still big enough to level small structures.

Hypersonic is (generally speaking) Mach 5 or above.
1100mph isn't even Mach 2.
There are better ways to counter heat-seeking missiles than simply saying a "device." For one, if your aircraft was truly hypersonic that alone would be enough, though it would be generating a lot of heat. Most aircraft these days simply have tail configurations that direct airflow into their exhaust to break it up and dissipate the heat, or do it through air ducting in the engine after the combustion chamber.

[Yes Im Biop]

Really?

Not for turbofan engines. It's measured in thrust, either foot-pounds or kilonewtons. Turboprops are still often measured in horsepower but they're not used in fighters.

Well then. What would a supercharged Engine clock in at?