Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Purpelia]

One of these days I shall find a region. And than I shall be both the DPRK and Iran, only worse. So much worse.

[Imperializt Russia]

Isn't there a radar system in Australia that detects the air disturbance round the stealth aircraft rather than the aircraft itself?

This sounds... peculiar.

Do you mean JORN? If it can detect Cessnas thousands of miles away, I suppose it could conceivably detect significant air disturbances generated by transiting stealth aircraft - though it would have struck me that a "metal golf ball" would be much easier to detect than an air disturbance, and thus the aircraft might be detected only at longer ranges where air disturbances are not notable?

But obviously, I'm neither a fluid dynamics engineer nor an aero engineer.

[Purpelia]

Isn't there a radar system in Australia that detects the air disturbance round the stealth aircraft rather than the aircraft itself?

This sounds... peculiar.

Do you mean JORN? If it can detect Cessnas thousands of miles away, I suppose it could conceivably detect significant air disturbances generated by transiting stealth aircraft - though it would have struck me that a "metal golf ball" would be much easier to detect than an air disturbance, and thus the aircraft might be detected only at longer ranges where air disturbances are not notable?

But obviously, I'm neither a fluid dynamics engineer nor an aero engineer.

Isn't that thing so stupidly huge that it would like get blown up by a missile strike in the first few seconds of a proper conflict? Well, maybe not seconds. But how ever long it takes a MIRV to get to the forsaken continent.

[Oaledonia]

One of these days I shall find a region. And than I shall be both the DPRK and Iran, only worse. So much worse.

No ur face. Seriously though, my region even has mirco nations, 3rd world nations, and city states. It's really nice to have a military that isn't just for :NS:

[Imperializt Russia]

This sounds... peculiar.

Do you mean JORN? If it can detect Cessnas thousands of miles away, I suppose it could conceivably detect significant air disturbances generated by transiting stealth aircraft - though it would have struck me that a "metal golf ball" would be much easier to detect than an air disturbance, and thus the aircraft might be detected only at longer ranges where air disturbances are not notable?

But obviously, I'm neither a fluid dynamics engineer nor an aero engineer.

Isn't that thing so stupidly huge that it would like get blown up by a missile strike in the first few seconds of a proper conflict? Well, maybe not seconds. But how ever long it takes a MIRV to get to the forsaken continent.

It'd probably be able to detect the incoming missiles with that level of power. If I recall correctly, Australia is looking into acquiring the AEGIS BMD capability.

[Purpelia]

One of these days I shall find a region. And than I shall be both the DPRK and Iran, only worse. So much worse.

No ur face. Seriously though, my region even has mirco nations, 3rd world nations, and city states. It's really nice to have a military that isn't just for :NS:

Would you happen to have a slot for a modern day Austro-Hungary sized nation with fierce isolationist tendencies, a hatred of all things foreign, no sea access, a superiority complex, complex issues due to not having sea access, roughly 80 million people, atomic weapons, a bustling tourist sector, NO sexual morality standards and a thriving population of dodo birds?

[The Akasha Colony]

Isn't that thing so stupidly huge that it would like get blown up by a missile strike in the first few seconds of a proper conflict? Well, maybe not seconds. But how ever long it takes a MIRV to get to the forsaken continent.

It's no bigger than a normal OTH radar. In fact, its distributed nature means it'd be easier to replace and repair than a single unitary array, since the individual antenna can be replaced as units.

[Purpelia]

Isn't that thing so stupidly huge that it would like get blown up by a missile strike in the first few seconds of a proper conflict? Well, maybe not seconds. But how ever long it takes a MIRV to get to the forsaken continent.

It's no bigger than a normal OTH radar. In fact, its distributed nature means it'd be easier to replace and repair than a single unitary array, since the individual antenna can be replaced as units.

I must have been thinking of something else than. I could have sworn that it's some sort of giant monolithic complex. Well, you learn something every day.

[Transnapastain]

Alright so.

Regarding flight training...for my Air Force I currently envision all pilots, regardless of their eventual aircraft assignment, going through basic flight training, using something like the EMB-312 Tucano and into advanced training using CASA C-101 and T-50 Golden Eagle alikes. The advanced training on subsonic and supersonic jets may not be needed for everyone, ground attack crews destined for subsonic attack craft can probably miss the supersonic portion of training, and those destined to fly turboprop transports probably need no jet training at all.

From here, they would move onto an aircraft more specific to their assignment. Pilots intended to fly fighters would move to a unit consisting fighter trainers (Su-27UBM and MiG-29UBM/M2 alikes...and using MiG-25PU's to train for MiG-31), bomber crews got onto train with units made up of bomber trainers (Tu-22UD and Tu-134UBL's in this case)

Pilots destined for ground attack craft and transports go onto training squadrons equipped with the same or similar aircraft as their duty squadron will have, as there is no function difference between the active duty craft and the trainer in this case.

Thoughts? I kind of feel like this is "too much" training, and I'm wondering if, in many of these cases, the fighters and ground attack craft specifically, if they could go from advanced training directly to their duty stations and train with an active duty squadron, perhaps even attach training flights to the actual active duty air wings as opposed to having them under a separate "training command"

I suppose, though, there's nothing preventing me from using the cadets squadrons in the last stages of training (the ones in the MiG and Su trainers specifically) for active duty assignments, presumably these trainers retain their combat ability.

[The Corparation]

Alright so.

Regarding flight training...for my Air Force I currently envision all pilots, regardless of their eventual aircraft assignment, going through basic flight training, using something like the EMB-312 Tucano and into advanced training using CASA C-101 and T-50 Golden Eagle alikes.

From here, they would move onto an aircraft more specific to their assignment. Pilots intended to fly fighters would move to a unit consisting fighter trainers (Su-27UBM and MiG-29UBM/M2 alikes...and using MiG-25PU's to train for MiG-31), bomber crews got onto train with units made up of bomber trainers (Tu-22UD and Tu-134UBL's in this case)

Pilots destined for ground attack craft and transports go onto training squadrons equipped with the same or similar aircraft as their duty squadron will have, as there is no function difference between the active duty craft and the trainer in this case.

Thoughts? I kind of feel like this is "too much" training, and I'm wondering if, in many of these cases, the fighters and ground attack craft specifically, if they could go from advanced training directly to their duty stations and train with an active duty squadron, perhaps even attach training flights to the actual active duty air wings as opposed to having them under a separate "training command"

I suppose, though, there's nothing preventing me from using the cadets squadrons in the last stages of training (the ones in the MiG and Su trainers specifically) for active duty assignments, presumably these trainers retain their combat ability.

The current setup seems like the best bet. If you can afford to do that much training, you should do that much training. Although I might consider splitting the training up a bit earlier, i.e. for advanced training you have your pilots destined for large multiengine aircraft (Strategic Bomber, transport, etc) use a Learjet clone for their advanced training rather than the T-50-alike

[Transnapastain]

Alright so.

Regarding flight training...for my Air Force I currently envision all pilots, regardless of their eventual aircraft assignment, going through basic flight training, using something like the EMB-312 Tucano and into advanced training using CASA C-101 and T-50 Golden Eagle alikes.

From here, they would move onto an aircraft more specific to their assignment. Pilots intended to fly fighters would move to a unit consisting fighter trainers (Su-27UBM and MiG-29UBM/M2 alikes...and using MiG-25PU's to train for MiG-31), bomber crews got onto train with units made up of bomber trainers (Tu-22UD and Tu-134UBL's in this case)

Pilots destined for ground attack craft and transports go onto training squadrons equipped with the same or similar aircraft as their duty squadron will have, as there is no function difference between the active duty craft and the trainer in this case.

Thoughts? I kind of feel like this is "too much" training, and I'm wondering if, in many of these cases, the fighters and ground attack craft specifically, if they could go from advanced training directly to their duty stations and train with an active duty squadron, perhaps even attach training flights to the actual active duty air wings as opposed to having them under a separate "training command"

I suppose, though, there's nothing preventing me from using the cadets squadrons in the last stages of training (the ones in the MiG and Su trainers specifically) for active duty assignments, presumably these trainers retain their combat ability.

The current setup seems like the best bet. If you can afford to do that much training, you should do that much training. Although I might consider splitting the training up a bit earlier, i.e. for advanced training you have your pilots destined for large multiengine aircraft (Strategic Bomber, transport, etc) use a Learjet clone for their advanced training rather than the T-50-alike

That makes good sense, as well, thank you!

[Transnapastain]

Too big for NS, too big for IIwiki

Costa Mejian Air Force chart, in its huge ass fucking glory.

[Omniphasa]

No idea. I have no knowledge of those models. The Eqab Type 2 is truly unique.

No it's not.

Unique as in 'not copied off of other models'.
At least I make my own artwork, instead of grabbing overpowered stuff from Google Images.

[Crookfur]

No it's not.

Unique as in 'not copied off of other models'.
At least I make my own artwork, instead of grabbing overpowered stuff from Google Images.

I hate to say it but it does seem on the mucho cheap side. IIRC even a basic biuld it yourself helciopter kit will set you back about $100,000 with the engines alone being in the $50,000 region

[Omniphasa]

Alright. Thank you for telling me that, feedback is appreciated.
Didn't have an realistic idea on what that would cost.

[Crookfur]

Alright. Thank you for telling me that, feedback is appreciated.
Didn't have an realistic idea on what that would cost.

Thats the nice thing about tiny/kit helicopters: the manaufacturers want to sell to private individuals so they tend to have no issues listing thier prices

[Omniphasa]

It's designed to be a cheap and easy to manufacture heap of scrap metal though.

[Luepola]

Too big for NS, too big for IIwiki

Costa Mejian Air Force chart, in its huge ass fucking glory.

DEAR MOTHER OF GOD. You nearly crashed my browser with that.

Anyway, would anyone be willing to inform me on an Air Force command structure and how I can organize my air force? Here's some NSTracker stats if it helps. http://www.nstracker.net/luepola&page=military

[The Corparation]

It's designed to be a cheap and easy to manufacture heap of scrap metal though.

It will be cheap relative to other aircraft, but its still going to be at least twice the price you have currently.

[Vorkova]

I was thinking about using the TU-160 as my main strategic bomber.

Thoughts?

[The Corparation]

I was thinking about using the TU-160 as my main strategic bomber.

Thoughts?

It's a pretty good bomber. Optimized for cruise missiles though, and its not all that good at carrying other things. If you're just going to use it as a strategic bomber it should be fine.

[Vorkova]

I was thinking about using the TU-160 as my main strategic bomber.

Thoughts?

It's a pretty good bomber. Optimized for cruise missiles though, and its not all that good at carrying other things. If you're just going to use it as a strategic bomber it should be fine.

My nation is an island, so it's main use would be to take out an enemy fleet before it reaches the coast. If it's optimised for cruise missiles then it should suit me well.

EDIT: Should I mix in the TU-22 as well? It looks like it's built as a cruise missile platform as well.

[Omniphasa]

Eqab Type 2
Manufacturer:	Vahrahan Yards ( Government owned )
Unit Cost:	Approximately 105.000 USD
Number Active:	7
Main Armament:	Dawra Rocket 2x
Secondary Armament:	Iz 13mm HMG Mod. 3
Description:	The Eqab Type 2 was the first military helicopter designed and put in service by the Islamic Republic of Omniphasa. It's sublime agility makes aiming with both of it's armaments superb. It usually has a crew of 2, but in times of lacking manpower, it can easily be piloted by just 1 person.

Updated the Eqab Type 2's price after I received good feedback here.

[Imperializt Russia]

Alright. Thank you for telling me that, feedback is appreciated.
Didn't have an realistic idea on what that would cost.

Thats the nice thing about tiny/kit helicopters: the manaufacturers want to sell to private individuals so they tend to have no issues listing thier prices

Though of course, those will be individual's prices for individual unit sales

It's a pretty good bomber. Optimized for cruise missiles though, and its not all that good at carrying other things. If you're just going to use it as a strategic bomber it should be fine.

My nation is an island, so it's main use would be to take out an enemy fleet before it reaches the coast. If it's optimised for cruise missiles then it should suit me well.

EDIT: Should I mix in the TU-22 as well? It looks like it's built as a cruise missile platform as well.

Definitely.
Though a note - you'll be looking for specifically the Tu-22M series.
Bizarrely, the Tu-22 and Tu-22M are practically different aircraft.

[The Corparation]

It's a pretty good bomber. Optimized for cruise missiles though, and its not all that good at carrying other things. If you're just going to use it as a strategic bomber it should be fine.

My nation is an island, so it's main use would be to take out an enemy fleet before it reaches the coast. If it's optimised for cruise missiles then it should suit me well.

EDIT: Should I mix in the TU-22 as well? It looks like it's built as a cruise missile platform as well.

The TU-160 wasn't really built to take out enemy fleets. Also, taking out enemy fleets is not the job of strategic bombers. If you want a bomber to take out enemy fleets, use the TU-22M rather than the TU-160. TU-22M was pretty much designed for that job.