Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Rich and Corporations]

Isn't it easy to ground a helicopter?

Most likely.

It is, however, a completely unnecessary risk on top of all the other risks involved in holding a helicopter in the hover for hours at a time.

Actually having a helicopter reactor hover above your HQ will kill all your important staff.
So you probably should try burying the reactor.

Make a kamikaze version.

Now

And yet, airborne reactors are pretty resilient.

only if you want them to be resilant

It would be utterly bizarre for an aircraft reactor to use steam turbines.

Air turbines are probably better.

[Imperializt Russia]

Most likely.

It is, however, a completely unnecessary risk on top of all the other risks involved in holding a helicopter in the hover for hours at a time.

Actually having a helicopter reactor hover above your HQ will kill all your important staff.
So you probably should try burying the reactor.

I'd already written off shielding concerns.

[Rich and Corporations]

Actually having a helicopter reactor hover above your HQ will kill all your important staff.
So you probably should try burying the reactor.

I'd already written off shielding concerns.

Yeah, but grounding the reactor isn't much of an improvement unless it's at least surrounded by 100 feet embankment dams.

[Imperializt Russia]

I'd already written off shielding concerns.

Yeah, but grounding the reactor isn't much of an improvement unless it's at least surrounded by 100 feet embankment dams.

Not the reactor, that's not what needs grounding, the helicopter's airframe itself.

Though I imagine the dropping of the wires themselves might also earth.
Still not a circuit you want to complete before it touches down.

[Rich and Corporations]

Yeah, but grounding the reactor isn't much of an improvement unless it's at least surrounded by 100 feet embankment dams.

Not the reactor, that's not what needs grounding, the helicopter's airframe itself.

Though I imagine the dropping of the wires themselves might also earth.
Still not a circuit you want to complete before it touches down.

if you can pump fuel between two aircraft flying at subsonic speeds, you can insulate a wire from a hovering aircraft and plug it into ground equipment

although the heat losses from hovering alone must be pretty bad.

[Imperializt Russia]

Not the reactor, that's not what needs grounding, the helicopter's airframe itself.

Though I imagine the dropping of the wires themselves might also earth.
Still not a circuit you want to complete before it touches down.

if you can pump fuel between two aircraft flying at subsonic speeds, you can insulate a wire from a hovering aircraft and plug it into ground equipment

although the heat losses from hovering alone must be pretty bad.

The static electricity of the airframe may simply be passed onto the second aircraft in an aerial refuelling scenario. It will not ground and possibly not generate a safety risk of itself.

The pumping of fuel poses a risk, however.

But the issue. We have an unshielded reactor, in an unstable flying static electricity cage, hovering above a target for hours, taking on fuel and offloading power.

More risks, no matter how slight and solvable, are worse risks.
Anti-static devices fail during fuelling processes. I would not want to see it fail in this scenario.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Is the "grounding" of an aircraft not the metal frame itself?

[Imperializt Russia]

Is the "grounding" of an aircraft not the metal frame itself?

Of a sort, possibly.
Seems to be what this is saying.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Refu ... al_Bonding

My understanding was that helicopters were a special case in terms of static buildup on aircraft. As in, more severe.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Is the "grounding" of an aircraft not the metal frame itself?

Of a sort, possibly.
Seems to be what this is saying.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Refu ... al_Bonding

My understanding was that helicopters were a special case in terms of static buildup on aircraft. As in, more severe.

Aerospace is a field I'm not overly familiar with, but I can't think of another way they'd ground the aircraft if not through the frame itself.

[Rich and Corporations]

Is the "grounding" of an aircraft not the metal frame itself?

Of a sort, possibly.
Seems to be what this is saying.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Refu ... al_Bonding

My understanding was that helicopters were a special case in terms of static buildup on aircraft. As in, more severe.

Wait. so all you need is an unsheathed cable connected to the helicopter to the ground to act as a ground?

[Triplebaconation]

Grounding cables are integrated into nozzles for hot refueling. It's not a big deal, nor substantially different than any other aerial refueling operation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrJOLLPYGs

[Rich and Corporations]

Grounding cables are integrated into nozzles for hot refueling. It's not a big deal, nor substantially different than any other aerial refueling operation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrJOLLPYGs

how do you achieve all this expert knowledge as a salesman no less? it amazes me, and it clearly puts us all to shame

we must form the cult of danton

[Triplebaconation]

"Draftroom Custom Search," of course.

[Ea90]

Grounding cables are integrated into nozzles for hot refueling. It's not a big deal, nor substantially different than any other aerial refueling operation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrJOLLPYGs

how do you achieve all this expert knowledge as a salesman no less? it amazes me, and it clearly puts us all to shame

we must form the cult of danton

I think you already have

[Pharthan]

I'd already written off shielding concerns.

Yeah, but grounding the reactor isn't much of an improvement unless it's at least surrounded by 100 feet embankment dams.

Assuming you're talking about the radiation concerns, all you need is like 4 feet of water, a couple inches of lead, steel, and like a foot of borated poly, which will cover you for several-hundred MW reactors.

[Alduinium]

So, I just remembered a plane from a game I used to play a while ago, and I wondered how practical it would be. Behold, the P21-J Devastator:

[Rich and Corporations]

So, I just remembered a plane from a game I used to play a while ago, and I wondered how practical it would be. Behold, the P21-J Devastator:

(Image)

Wait... rear engine?

Yeah, but grounding the reactor isn't much of an improvement unless it's at least surrounded by 100 feet embankment dams.

Assuming you're talking about the radiation concerns, all you need is like 4 feet of water, a couple inches of lead, steel, and like a foot of borated poly, which will cover you for several-hundred MW reactors.

"Hey, what's this?"
"This is their reactor, it's protected by only several meters of protection. It's centered in their HQ."
"Bomb it."

[Alduinium]

So, I just remembered a plane from a game I used to play a while ago, and I wondered how practical it would be. Behold, the P21-J Devastator:

(Image)

Wait... rear engine?

Yeah, it uses a Pusher Configuration

[Auxatia]

Air Force Roundel

Low visibility roundel

The Auxatian Air Force comprises approximately 675,000 personnel, including officers, infantry, engineers & medical personnel.

The main infantry weapons of the Air Force are the Colt/Browning M16A3 Assault Rifle, Sig Sauer P226 Hi-power sidearm and the M1 Fragmentation grenade. In terms of explosive weapons, the M136 rocket launcher & Claymore Anti-personnel mine is used to defend installations and friendly positions from incursions by enemy forces.

The Air Force operates the F/A-18F fighter and ground attack aircraft, and B1/B Lancer long range bomber for both conventional and nuclear strike roles.

AIM-120 AMRAAM missile and AIM-9X missiles are fitted onto F/A-18F aircraft to engage enemy aircraft, with the AGM-65/D maverick A-G missile being the main munition used to attack ground targets in a combat environment. The B83 thermonuclear bomb is deployed onto B1 aircraft for the nuclear strike role.

Medical personnel are very highly trained in First Aid and evacuation of wounded personnel from combat environments.

The Auxatian Strategic Nuclear Forces are a sub-division of the Air Force that operate the main nuclear capability of the military. 1,112 nuclear weapons are currently in use throughout the Air Force, comprising of the Peacekeeper long range ICBM, and the Pershing II medium range nuclear cruise missile.

[Oaledonia]

So, I just remembered a plane from a game I used to play a while ago, and I wondered how practical it would be. Behold, the P21-J Devastator:

(Image)

Whoa, such an edgy roundel!

[Transnapastain]

So, I just remembered a plane from a game I used to play a while ago, and I wondered how practical it would be. Behold, the P21-J Devastator:

(Image)

Whoa, such an edgy roundel!

Convinced me not to fuck with him. I'd go home with my tail between my legs,

I don't have roundels for Trans, but heres some for Costa Mejis




and a tail flash

[Oaledonia]

Whoa, such an edgy roundel!

Convinced me not to fuck with him. I'd go home with my tail between my legs,

I don't have roundels for Trans, but heres some for Costa Mejis




and a tail flash

Cool, I was going to upload mine but my computer started frying before my eyes, I couldn't save my roundel and some non-important documents that I already backed up on a USB.

[Azonea]

The primary Azon combat aircraft are the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, and F-22 Raptor. The Azon Air Force (AAF) also relies upon the good 'ole AH-64D Apache Longbow Helicopter for some combat missions.

[Transnapastain]

Okay, here's a question.

I'm trying to find Soviet era/Russian dedicated ECM aircraft.

I see the Yak-28PP, and if thats as good as it gets, I'll go with it. I also see the Su-24MP referred to as an ECM aircraft, but it appears to be less of a jamming platform and more of an ELINT platform.

Am I missing something here?

[Pharthan]

But the issue. We have an unshielded reactor, in an unstable flying static electricity cage, hovering above a target for hours, taking on fuel and offloading power.

More risks, no matter how slight and solvable, are worse risks.
Anti-static devices fail during fuelling processes. I would not want to see it fail in this scenario.

I don't actually see the static being an issue for the reactor, provided you protect it properly, which wouldn't be drastically difficult. Those fixes do cause minor problems of their own in the long run in my experience, but for a helicopter they'd probably be a good idea.

If you've got a helicopter big enough to carry a reactor, shielding won't be an issue. If it's only a couple of MWt or less, that is. Steel and polyethelyne doped boron will do some wonders with that.

"Hey, what's this?"
"This is their reactor, it's protected by only several meters of protection. It's centered in their HQ."
"Bomb it."

Fair enough.

It would be utterly bizarre for an aircraft reactor to use steam turbines.

Air turbines are probably better.

If you mean for the aircraft to be flying off of the reactor's power, yes, but the original idea we're talking about is for a Ground Effect Vehicle that will only be over water. You can dump all but your water you need for emergency-fill during a meltdown, fly over to somewhere else, then pump water back onboard while you're trying to start your reactor back up. The very process of that will heat your reactor coolant, expanding it, so you get some of it back as you discharge it to onboard tanks while you're desalinating your water for your steam plant. It's not quick, but neither is a reactor-start-up.