Your Nation's Air Force [MKI]

[Narexia]

Well we have a huge Air Force and those 15 are only fighter planes as indicated by the criteria.
Also I wasn't able to include the Sukhoi Su-17N3, Su-24MN, Su-25TMN, Su-39N, Ilyushin IL-76, IL-78, Antonov An-22, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-70, An-74, An-124, An-225 and of course all the heli's!!!!! The only real problem for us is maintenance because of the volume of spare parts needed since we require each combat pilot to fly at least 20 hours a week! Also, they did not include aircraft being phased out of service MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, Su-11, Su-9, Su-7, Yak-141, An-12 and the An-8.

=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.

What aircraft do you suggest? MiG-31's and 35's must stay and the Su-30's, Su-33's (needed for the carriers), Su-34's (to replace the ancient Su-24M's!) Su-37's are the best frontline fighter we have and well I aint about to give up my investment in the PAK-FA T-50's! Maybe this would work and we could still have all around capabilities?

[St George of England]

These are MODIFIED specs NOT THOSE OF THE REAL WORLD AIRCRAFT!

We use a very extensive range of combat aircraft all of which are based off of Russian/ former Soviet designs
Abbreviations: QTY: quantity R = recon, LR= long range, LRB = long range bomber, LRR = long range recon, LRI = long range interceptor, EWS = electronic warfare/surveillance, AB = afterburners, SV = standard variant, TU = training unit, LRI-LRB = combination variant, LRAS = long range anti-shipping

I shall start with the mig's!

MiG-21N: QTY: 1,275

Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 1 R-35 @ 20,000 lbs/foot thrust w/AB
Range: 3,500km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 8 pylons 12,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 540 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 60 rounds


MiG-23N: QTY: 2,540

Specs: (windened for two engines)
Crew: 1 or 2 on EWS, LRI, LRR, TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's @ 33,700 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,500km internal fuel except R (recon) 4,800km
Speed: mach 3.2 A & TU, 3.5 all other variants
Payload: 10 pylons 17lbs of payload all except "B", 14 pylons for 20,000 lbs "B"
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 720 rounds "A" & "TU", 1 GSh-23L with 900 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 80 shells "B", 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,200 rounds all others.

MiG-25N: QTY 550

Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 on TU, LRI, LRR & LRB (long range bomber)
Engine: 2 DF-31's @ 48,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,400km SV & TU, 6,000km LRI, LRR & LRB
Speed: Mach 2.2 low altitude, 3.8 high alt. SV & TU and - mach 2.5 low, 4.25 high LRI, LRB, LRR variants
Payload: 6 pylons for 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 360 rounds on SV & TU, 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,000 rounds all others

MiG-27KN: QTY: 485

Specs:
Crew:1 or 2 TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's (same as MiG-23N)
Range: 4,000km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 3.2
Payload: 12 pylons for 24,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

MiG-29N: QTY: 3,770

Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-21's @ 25,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 2,500km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 9 pylons 14,000 lbs ordinance
Gun: 1 GSh-30-1 with 275 rounds

MiG-31NBM QTY: 350 + 50 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 2 all versions
Engine: 2 SD-50's @ 58,750 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB -
OR - 2 SD-53's @ 71,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB LRI-LRB
Range: 4,800km SV and 7,350km LRI-LRB
Speed: mach 4.6 SV - OR - mach 5.4 LRI-LRB
Payload: 8 pylons for 20,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

MiG-35N: QTY: 120 + 40 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 AL-31N's @ 32,770 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,200km int. fuel
Speed: mach 2.75
Payload: 10 pylons for 20,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 350 rounds

And now the Sukhoi's!

Su-15N: QTY: 675

Specs:
Crew: 1 SV & 2 TU
Engine: 2 R-37B's @ 24,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 5,400km
Speed: mach 3.5
Payload: 6 pylons 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds and 2 NN-37's with 80 rounds each

Su-27N: QTY: 5,480

Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-24's @ 30,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 12 pylons for 18,500 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-30N: QTY: 3,275

Specs:
Crew: 2 SV, 3 TU & LR
Engine: 2 SL-44's @ 37,500 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,800km or 6,400 km LR
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 17 pylons for 25,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

Su-33N: QTY: 400 + 50 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 1 SV
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.85
Payload: 14 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-34N: QTY: 875 + 120 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 2 on SV - or - 4 on TU, LR, LRB, LRAS, EWS
Engine: 2 SL-45's @ 41,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 6,000km SV - OR - 9,000km LR, LRB, LRAS
Speed: mach 2.5 ~ 2.8 depending on fuel and payload carried
Payload: 16 pylons for 30,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 1,000 rounds

Su-35N: QTY: 330 + 70 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 3.25+
Payload: 14 pylons for 22,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 500 rounds

Su-37N: QTY: 120 + 60 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-45's
Range: 5,300km
Speed: mach 3.6+
Payload: 16 pylons for 24,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

PAK-FA (T-50) QTY: 12 + 36 more on order

Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: SL-50's @ 50,000 lbs/foot each thrust w/AB
Range: 6,700km
Speed: mach 4+
Payload: 16 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

Let's just all forget this post... ok?

Well, The Blue Helmets Main Fighter Plane is the Su-30 MKI

needs a bayonet on the end...

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I'm thinking of having the Super Hornet as the plane for both my airforce and navy, but in a land-based situation, how would a F-16 compare in dogfight?

The F-16 would be more manoeuvrable.

Also, consider using the F-16XL variant, only with the electronics and engine upgraded to meet F-16 Block 60 specs.The F-16XL is probably pound for pound the most capable airframe in it's class,

[Qlumez]

Beluva 2000 QL. It can throw nukes! We don't have any, though.

[St George of England]

needs a bayonet on the end...

NO! Plane + bayonet charge = http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/72cef30d0c7a4f72598492ea93499e0e.jpg

you see? is much successful!

(that means: was a joke,, fool)

[The Corparation]

=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.

What aircraft do you suggest? MiG-31's and 35's must stay and the Su-30's, Su-33's (needed for the carriers), Su-34's (to replace the ancient Su-24M's!) Su-37's are the best frontline fighter we have and well I aint about to give up my investment in the PAK-FA T-50's! Maybe this would work and we could still have all around capabilities?

Thats 7 fighter aircraft. US uses 5 AV-8 Harrier II, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22 and soon to be added is F-35 to bring the total to 6 however the F-35 will replace the F-16 in the USAF (as well as the A-10) the Harrier in the Marines and the F-18 in both the Marines and Navy. Knocking the total down to 4.

[United NW Canada]

What aircraft do you suggest? MiG-31's and 35's must stay and the Su-30's, Su-33's (needed for the carriers), Su-34's (to replace the ancient Su-24M's!) Su-37's are the best frontline fighter we have and well I aint about to give up my investment in the PAK-FA T-50's! Maybe this would work and we could still have all around capabilities?

Thats 7 fighter aircraft. US uses 5 AV-8 Harrier II, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22 and soon to be added is F-35 to bring the total to 6 however the F-35 will replace the F-16 in the USAF (as well as the A-10) the Harrier in the Marines and the F-18 in both the Marines and Navy. Knocking the total down to 4.

one must consider that the su-27/30 series of aircraft have common airframes and many common components. training and logistics would not be the nightmare it would seem. i have worked with both NATO and bloc ground weapons and systems and find the bloc systems to be very robust and resilient to damage/fatigue and made for easily maintenance. maintaining western systems are a nightmare on the best days even though their capabilities in certain cases surpass the bloc equipment.

[Minnysota]

=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.

What aircraft do you suggest? MiG-31's and 35's must stay and the Su-30's, Su-33's (needed for the carriers), Su-34's (to replace the ancient Su-24M's!) Su-37's are the best frontline fighter we have and well I aint about to give up my investment in the PAK-FA T-50's! Maybe this would work and we could still have all around capabilities?

Well, have you ever thought that some of the aircraft you use are very expensive? (or so I have been told)

[Estainia]

Thats 7 fighter aircraft. US uses 5 AV-8 Harrier II, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22 and soon to be added is F-35 to bring the total to 6 however the F-35 will replace the F-16 in the USAF (as well as the A-10) the Harrier in the Marines and the F-18 in both the Marines and Navy. Knocking the total down to 4.

They are replacing the A-10 with the F-35!

...What?

[Minnysota]

Thats 7 fighter aircraft. US uses 5 AV-8 Harrier II, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22 and soon to be added is F-35 to bring the total to 6 however the F-35 will replace the F-16 in the USAF (as well as the A-10) the Harrier in the Marines and the F-18 in both the Marines and Navy. Knocking the total down to 4.

They are replacing the A-10 with the F-35!

The A variant is primarily intended to replace the USAF's F-16 Fighting Falcon, beginning in 2013, and replace the A-10 Thunderbolt II starting in 2028

[Soviet Haaregrad]

They are replacing the A-10 with the F-35!

In the short term, until they realize fast jets still can't do CAS and COIN and FAC well.

[Minnysota]

They are replacing the A-10 with the F-35!

In the short term, until they realize fast jets still can't do CAS and COIN and FAC well.

I would prefer a newer model of the A-10 over the F-35 doing its role...

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I would prefer a newer model of the A-10 over the F-35 doing its role...

But they'd rather replace everything with a JSF. B-52s, the Space Shuttle, the T-34, Air Force One, the JSF can do it all.

[Minnysota]

In the short term, until they realize fast jets still can't do CAS and COIN and FAC well.

Yeah, if they are should be replacing anything it should be selling more of our B-52's, upgrading more of our A-10s, selling some of our older generation fighters and switching them out with the F-35 . How much of a use is a non stleathly heavy bomber good for in asymmetric warfare anyway?

Yea, I would agree with this. We should start selling off our B-52s with the interim bombers coming in soon and then those should take us to the Bomber of 2036..

[Soviet Haaregrad]

No one would buy a used B-52. The only two conceivable clients (China, Russia) are both more than capable of producing a comparable product. Look how fast Ukraine sold Russia back their heavy bombers.

The joke I made earlier about the JSF replacing everything is a trick they pull. First bought politicians let lobbyists sell them on 'jack of all trade' designs that require a little bit more up front, but will save soo much in the long term by replacing multiple systems, then turn around and argue we need specialized tools to do specialized jobs, because the jack of all trades isn't quite suited (like people were saying from the start), and then they issue new defence contracts.

[Greater Mexicania]

F-5 Freedom Fighter and the F-20 Tigershark are the main fighter aircraft of the United States of Greater Mexicania.

[Satirius]

F-5 Freedom Fighter and the F-20 Tigershark are the main fighter aircraft of the United States of Greater Mexicania.

F-20?

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[The Blue Helmets]

Let's just all forget this post... ok?

Well, The Blue Helmets Main Fighter Plane is the Su-30 MKI

needs a bayonet on the end...

I never thought adding a bayonet to a plane will be so effective!

http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/72cef30d0c7a4f72598492ea93499e0e.jpg

St George of England, you gave me such a great idea, im naming you honorary Minister of Defence!

[Greater Mexicania]

F-5 Freedom Fighter and the F-20 Tigershark are the main fighter aircraft of the United States of Greater Mexicania.

F-20?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-20_Tigershark

^ That.

[Satirius]

F-20?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-20_Tigershark

^ That.

yeah that is pro for an air defense fighter, I'm actually thinking about using a navalized STOL variant for hilarious scramble times, exacerbated by modern electronics(and besides, it can hump my standard AShM)

I'm actually using the JAS 39 right now since it has the ability to land on highways so I have easily projectable airpower

[Greater Mexicania]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-20_Tigershark

^ That.

yeah that is pro for an air defense fighter, I'm actually thinking about using a navalized STOL variant for hilarious scramble times, exacerbated by modern electronics(and besides, it can hump my standard AShM)

I'm actually using the JAS 39 right now since it has the ability to land on highways so I have easily projectable airpower

Sounds handy. Real or NS?

[Minnysota]

yeah that is pro for an air defense fighter, I'm actually thinking about using a navalized STOL variant for hilarious scramble times, exacerbated by modern electronics(and besides, it can hump my standard AShM)

I'm actually using the JAS 39 right now since it has the ability to land on highways so I have easily projectable airpower

Sounds handy. Real or NS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAS_39

[Itailian Maifias]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am drawing a fighter right now and I was wondering, it is possible to do camo for a plane? If so, how? Random spots?

[Ceylianus]

F-23 Black Widow II


F-22 Raptor


F-35 Joint Strike Fighter


F/A-18E/F Super Hornet

[Greater Mexicania]

F-23 Black Widow II


F-22 Raptor


F-35 Joint Strike Fighter


F/A-18E/F Super Hornet

Yay 23, yay 22, boo 35, yay 18. ;D Solid choices mostly.