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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:24 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Licana wrote:I agree with everything, however the B61 is hardly a viable wartime weapon, and was, for my understanding, made for the lulz.

It's a tactical nuke, not the Tsar Bomba, god.

I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p
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So was the M-16.

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Postby The Corparation » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:30 pm

Licana wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:It's a tactical nuke, not the Tsar Bomba, god.

I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p

Tsar wasn't so much a weapon as a "Look at us we have a bigger bomb than you" weapon. They only built one.
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Postby Licana » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:34 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Licana wrote:I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p

Tsar wasn't so much a weapon as a "Look at us we have a bigger bomb than you" weapon. They only built one.

Indeed, and so was the B61 to an extent. While the Russian's were doing the "bigger bomb" thing, we were putting tac-nukes on the tiniest planes possible. In a sense, they were both made for the lulz and braggin' rights.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Sucrati » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:40 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Licana wrote:I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p

Tsar wasn't so much a weapon as a "Look at us we have a bigger bomb than you" weapon. They only built one.


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Postby The Corparation » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:45 pm

Licana wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Tsar wasn't so much a weapon as a "Look at us we have a bigger bomb than you" weapon. They only built one.

Indeed, and so was the B61 to an extent. While the Russian's were doing the "bigger bomb" thing, we were putting tac-nukes on the tiniest planes possible. In a sense, they were both made for the lulz and braggin' rights.

But the B61 is a usable weapon. And could be effective if used properly. You'ld need to have protective gear for the pilot and plane though, ex Anti-Flash White Paint and EMP sheilding on the plane.
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Postby Germonica » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:41 pm

Our main unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle:
EADS Barracuda
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Our main fighter:
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II
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Postby Arkinesia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:52 am

Licana wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:It's a tactical nuke, not the Tsar Bomba, god.

I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p

Unless you took one around in a fuel truck and went around the Arc De Triomphe and set 'er off. That'd make a nice boom.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:29 am

Arkinesia wrote:
Licana wrote:I know, and the Tsar wasn't a very practical weapon either. :p

Unless you took one around in a fuel truck and went around the Arc De Triomphe and set 'er off. That'd make a nice boom.

Nukes are built for airburst. It better distibutes the blast.
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We have ALOT of fighters!

Postby Narexia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:53 pm

These are MODIFIED specs NOT THOSE OF THE REAL WORLD AIRCRAFT!

We use a very extensive range of combat aircraft all of which are based off of Russian/ former Soviet designs
Abbreviations: QTY: quantity R = recon, LR= long range, LRB = long range bomber, LRR = long range recon, LRI = long range interceptor, EWS = electronic warfare/surveillance, AB = afterburners, SV = standard variant, TU = training unit, LRI-LRB = combination variant, LRAS = long range anti-shipping

I shall start with the mig's!

MiG-21N: QTY: 1,275
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 1 R-35 @ 20,000 lbs/foot thrust w/AB
Range: 3,500km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 8 pylons 12,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 540 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 60 rounds


MiG-23N: QTY: 2,540
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Specs: (windened for two engines)
Crew: 1 or 2 on EWS, LRI, LRR, TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's @ 33,700 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,500km internal fuel except R (recon) 4,800km
Speed: mach 3.2 A & TU, 3.5 all other variants
Payload: 10 pylons 17lbs of payload all except "B", 14 pylons for 20,000 lbs "B"
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 720 rounds "A" & "TU", 1 GSh-23L with 900 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 80 shells "B", 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,200 rounds all others.

MiG-25N: QTY 550
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 on TU, LRI, LRR & LRB (long range bomber)
Engine: 2 DF-31's @ 48,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,400km SV & TU, 6,000km LRI, LRR & LRB
Speed: Mach 2.2 low altitude, 3.8 high alt. SV & TU and - mach 2.5 low, 4.25 high LRI, LRB, LRR variants
Payload: 6 pylons for 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 360 rounds on SV & TU, 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,000 rounds all others

MiG-27KN: QTY: 485
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Specs:
Crew:1 or 2 TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's (same as MiG-23N)
Range: 4,000km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 3.2
Payload: 12 pylons for 24,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

MiG-29N: QTY: 3,770
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-21's @ 25,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 2,500km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 9 pylons 14,000 lbs ordinance
Gun: 1 GSh-30-1 with 275 rounds

MiG-31NBM QTY: 350 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 all versions
Engine: 2 SD-50's @ 58,750 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB -
OR - 2 SD-53's @ 71,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB LRI-LRB
Range: 4,800km SV and 7,350km LRI-LRB
Speed: mach 4.6 SV - OR - mach 5.4 LRI-LRB
Payload: 8 pylons for 20,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

MiG-35N: QTY: 120 + 40 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 AL-31N's @ 32,770 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,200km int. fuel
Speed: mach 2.75
Payload: 10 pylons for 20,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 350 rounds

And now the Sukhoi's!

Su-15N: QTY: 675
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV & 2 TU
Engine: 2 R-37B's @ 24,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 5,400km
Speed: mach 3.5
Payload: 6 pylons 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds and 2 NN-37's with 80 rounds each

Su-27N: QTY: 5,480
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-24's @ 30,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 12 pylons for 18,500 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-30N: QTY: 3,275
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Specs:
Crew: 2 SV, 3 TU & LR
Engine: 2 SL-44's @ 37,500 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,800km or 6,400 km LR
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 17 pylons for 25,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

Su-33N: QTY: 400 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.85
Payload: 14 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-34N: QTY: 875 + 120 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 on SV - or - 4 on TU, LR, LRB, LRAS, EWS
Engine: 2 SL-45's @ 41,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 6,000km SV - OR - 9,000km LR, LRB, LRAS
Speed: mach 2.5 ~ 2.8 depending on fuel and payload carried
Payload: 16 pylons for 30,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 1,000 rounds

Su-35N: QTY: 330 + 70 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 3.25+
Payload: 14 pylons for 22,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 500 rounds

Su-37N: QTY: 120 + 60 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-45's
Range: 5,300km
Speed: mach 3.6+
Payload: 16 pylons for 24,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

PAK-FA (T-50) QTY: 12 + 36 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: SL-50's @ 50,000 lbs/foot each thrust w/AB
Range: 6,700km
Speed: mach 4+
Payload: 16 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

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Postby Satirius » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:45 pm

The main fighter and infantry fighting vehicle is the M113-A "AeroGavin"
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It can effectively deploy troops, engage enemy armor, complete stealthy infiltrations, and engage enemy fighters with its AIM-9X missiles
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:50 pm

Narexia wrote:
These are MODIFIED specs NOT THOSE OF THE REAL WORLD AIRCRAFT!

We use a very extensive range of combat aircraft all of which are based off of Russian/ former Soviet designs
Abbreviations: QTY: quantity R = recon, LR= long range, LRB = long range bomber, LRR = long range recon, LRI = long range interceptor, EWS = electronic warfare/surveillance, AB = afterburners, SV = standard variant, TU = training unit, LRI-LRB = combination variant, LRAS = long range anti-shipping

I shall start with the mig's!

MiG-21N: QTY: 1,275
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 1 R-35 @ 20,000 lbs/foot thrust w/AB
Range: 3,500km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 8 pylons 12,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 540 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 60 rounds


MiG-23N: QTY: 2,540
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Specs: (windened for two engines)
Crew: 1 or 2 on EWS, LRI, LRR, TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's @ 33,700 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,500km internal fuel except R (recon) 4,800km
Speed: mach 3.2 A & TU, 3.5 all other variants
Payload: 10 pylons 17lbs of payload all except "B", 14 pylons for 20,000 lbs "B"
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 720 rounds "A" & "TU", 1 GSh-23L with 900 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 80 shells "B", 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,200 rounds all others.

MiG-25N: QTY 550
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 on TU, LRI, LRR & LRB (long range bomber)
Engine: 2 DF-31's @ 48,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,400km SV & TU, 6,000km LRI, LRR & LRB
Speed: Mach 2.2 low altitude, 3.8 high alt. SV & TU and - mach 2.5 low, 4.25 high LRI, LRB, LRR variants
Payload: 6 pylons for 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 360 rounds on SV & TU, 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,000 rounds all others

MiG-27KN: QTY: 485
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Specs:
Crew:1 or 2 TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's (same as MiG-23N)
Range: 4,000km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 3.2
Payload: 12 pylons for 24,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

MiG-29N: QTY: 3,770
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-21's @ 25,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 2,500km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 9 pylons 14,000 lbs ordinance
Gun: 1 GSh-30-1 with 275 rounds

MiG-31NBM QTY: 350 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 all versions
Engine: 2 SD-50's @ 58,750 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB -
OR - 2 SD-53's @ 71,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB LRI-LRB
Range: 4,800km SV and 7,350km LRI-LRB
Speed: mach 4.6 SV - OR - mach 5.4 LRI-LRB
Payload: 8 pylons for 20,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

MiG-35N: QTY: 120 + 40 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 AL-31N's @ 32,770 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,200km int. fuel
Speed: mach 2.75
Payload: 10 pylons for 20,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 350 rounds

And now the Sukhoi's!

Su-15N: QTY: 675
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV & 2 TU
Engine: 2 R-37B's @ 24,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 5,400km
Speed: mach 3.5
Payload: 6 pylons 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds and 2 NN-37's with 80 rounds each

Su-27N: QTY: 5,480
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-24's @ 30,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 12 pylons for 18,500 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-30N: QTY: 3,275
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Specs:
Crew: 2 SV, 3 TU & LR
Engine: 2 SL-44's @ 37,500 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,800km or 6,400 km LR
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 17 pylons for 25,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

Su-33N: QTY: 400 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.85
Payload: 14 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-34N: QTY: 875 + 120 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 on SV - or - 4 on TU, LR, LRB, LRAS, EWS
Engine: 2 SL-45's @ 41,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 6,000km SV - OR - 9,000km LR, LRB, LRAS
Speed: mach 2.5 ~ 2.8 depending on fuel and payload carried
Payload: 16 pylons for 30,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 1,000 rounds

Su-35N: QTY: 330 + 70 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 3.25+
Payload: 14 pylons for 22,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 500 rounds

Su-37N: QTY: 120 + 60 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-45's
Range: 5,300km
Speed: mach 3.6+
Payload: 16 pylons for 24,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

PAK-FA (T-50) QTY: 12 + 36 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: SL-50's @ 50,000 lbs/foot each thrust w/AB
Range: 6,700km
Speed: mach 4+
Payload: 16 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds


With that many different fighter aircraft, we would certainly truly hate to be assigned to your logistics, maintenance and procurement departments. Talk about constant nightmares and massive migraines.
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Postby Narexia » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:04 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Narexia wrote:
These are MODIFIED specs NOT THOSE OF THE REAL WORLD AIRCRAFT!

We use a very extensive range of combat aircraft all of which are based off of Russian/ former Soviet designs
Abbreviations: QTY: quantity R = recon, LR= long range, LRB = long range bomber, LRR = long range recon, LRI = long range interceptor, EWS = electronic warfare/surveillance, AB = afterburners, SV = standard variant, TU = training unit, LRI-LRB = combination variant, LRAS = long range anti-shipping

I shall start with the mig's!

MiG-21N: QTY: 1,275
Image
Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 1 R-35 @ 20,000 lbs/foot thrust w/AB
Range: 3,500km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 8 pylons 12,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 540 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 60 rounds


MiG-23N: QTY: 2,540
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Specs: (windened for two engines)
Crew: 1 or 2 on EWS, LRI, LRR, TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's @ 33,700 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,500km internal fuel except R (recon) 4,800km
Speed: mach 3.2 A & TU, 3.5 all other variants
Payload: 10 pylons 17lbs of payload all except "B", 14 pylons for 20,000 lbs "B"
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 720 rounds "A" & "TU", 1 GSh-23L with 900 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 80 shells "B", 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,200 rounds all others.

MiG-25N: QTY 550
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 on TU, LRI, LRR & LRB (long range bomber)
Engine: 2 DF-31's @ 48,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,400km SV & TU, 6,000km LRI, LRR & LRB
Speed: Mach 2.2 low altitude, 3.8 high alt. SV & TU and - mach 2.5 low, 4.25 high LRI, LRB, LRR variants
Payload: 6 pylons for 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 360 rounds on SV & TU, 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,000 rounds all others

MiG-27KN: QTY: 485
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Specs:
Crew:1 or 2 TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's (same as MiG-23N)
Range: 4,000km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 3.2
Payload: 12 pylons for 24,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

MiG-29N: QTY: 3,770
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-21's @ 25,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 2,500km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 9 pylons 14,000 lbs ordinance
Gun: 1 GSh-30-1 with 275 rounds

MiG-31NBM QTY: 350 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 all versions
Engine: 2 SD-50's @ 58,750 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB -
OR - 2 SD-53's @ 71,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB LRI-LRB
Range: 4,800km SV and 7,350km LRI-LRB
Speed: mach 4.6 SV - OR - mach 5.4 LRI-LRB
Payload: 8 pylons for 20,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

MiG-35N: QTY: 120 + 40 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 AL-31N's @ 32,770 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,200km int. fuel
Speed: mach 2.75
Payload: 10 pylons for 20,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 350 rounds

And now the Sukhoi's!

Su-15N: QTY: 675
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV & 2 TU
Engine: 2 R-37B's @ 24,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 5,400km
Speed: mach 3.5
Payload: 6 pylons 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds and 2 NN-37's with 80 rounds each

Su-27N: QTY: 5,480
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-24's @ 30,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 12 pylons for 18,500 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-30N: QTY: 3,275
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Specs:
Crew: 2 SV, 3 TU & LR
Engine: 2 SL-44's @ 37,500 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,800km or 6,400 km LR
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 17 pylons for 25,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

Su-33N: QTY: 400 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.85
Payload: 14 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-34N: QTY: 875 + 120 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 on SV - or - 4 on TU, LR, LRB, LRAS, EWS
Engine: 2 SL-45's @ 41,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 6,000km SV - OR - 9,000km LR, LRB, LRAS
Speed: mach 2.5 ~ 2.8 depending on fuel and payload carried
Payload: 16 pylons for 30,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 1,000 rounds

Su-35N: QTY: 330 + 70 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 3.25+
Payload: 14 pylons for 22,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 500 rounds

Su-37N: QTY: 120 + 60 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-45's
Range: 5,300km
Speed: mach 3.6+
Payload: 16 pylons for 24,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

PAK-FA (T-50) QTY: 12 + 36 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: SL-50's @ 50,000 lbs/foot each thrust w/AB
Range: 6,700km
Speed: mach 4+
Payload: 16 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds


With that many different fighter aircraft, we would certainly truly hate to be assigned to your logistics, maintenance and procurement departments. Talk about constant nightmares and massive migraines.

Well we have a huge Air Force and those 15 are only fighter planes as indicated by the criteria.
Also I wasn't able to include the Sukhoi Su-17N3, Su-24MN, Su-25TMN, Su-39N, Ilyushin IL-76, IL-78, Antonov An-22, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-70, An-74, An-124, An-225 and of course all the heli's!!!!! The only real problem for us is maintenance because of the volume of spare parts needed since we require each combat pilot to fly at least 20 hours a week! Also, they did not include aircraft being phased out of service MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, Su-11, Su-9, Su-7, Yak-141, An-12 and the An-8.

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Postby Solarva » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:21 pm

Narexia wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
With that many different fighter aircraft, we would certainly truly hate to be assigned to your logistics, maintenance and procurement departments. Talk about constant nightmares and massive migraines.

Well we have a huge Air Force and those 15 are only fighter planes as indicated by the criteria.
Also I wasn't able to include the Sukhoi Su-17N3, Su-24MN, Su-25TMN, Su-39N, Ilyushin IL-76, IL-78, Antonov An-22, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-70, An-74, An-124, An-225 and of course all the heli's!!!!! The only real problem for us is maintenance because of the volume of spare parts needed since we require each combat pilot to fly at least 20 hours a week! Also, they did not include aircraft being phased out of service MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, Su-11, Su-9, Su-7, Yak-141, An-12 and the An-8.


=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.
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Postby Strykla » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:35 pm

Solarva wrote:
Narexia wrote:Well we have a huge Air Force and those 15 are only fighter planes as indicated by the criteria.
Also I wasn't able to include the Sukhoi Su-17N3, Su-24MN, Su-25TMN, Su-39N, Ilyushin IL-76, IL-78, Antonov An-22, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-70, An-74, An-124, An-225 and of course all the heli's!!!!! The only real problem for us is maintenance because of the volume of spare parts needed since we require each combat pilot to fly at least 20 hours a week! Also, they did not include aircraft being phased out of service MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, Su-11, Su-9, Su-7, Yak-141, An-12 and the An-8.


=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.

Not to mention shit-your-pants expensive. All those for one little country? Not in hell.
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Postby Narexia » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:01 pm

Strykla wrote:
Solarva wrote:
=p Yes, it's only 15. Start standardizing and upgrading your air force rather than getting another new plane. Not a bad idea to have so many different planes for testing and experimenting though. I agree with greys, maintenance would be hell.

Not to mention shit-your-pants expensive. All those for one little country? Not in hell.

Shit your pants expensive? Ha! hardly. We have our resources to deal with the $ amounts. No biggie! no worries.

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Postby Strykla » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:08 pm

Narexia wrote:
Strykla wrote:Not to mention shit-your-pants expensive. All those for one little country? Not in hell.

Shit your pants expensive? Ha! hardly. We have our resources to deal with the $ amounts. No biggie! no worries.

After looking on your NSEconomy page, I see your budget is $25,337,804,133. The cost of 3,725 Su-30's is $126,650,000,000, or around 126 billion, whereas your budget is 25 billion. And that's only counting for your Su-30's, so I didn't count all the other mentioned aircraft.
Might wanna rethink your strategy.
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Postby Narexia » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:30 pm

Strykla wrote:
Narexia wrote:Shit your pants expensive? Ha! hardly. We have our resources to deal with the $ amounts. No biggie! no worries.

After looking on your NSEconomy page, I see your budget is $25,337,804,133. The cost of 3,725 Su-30's is $126,650,000,000, or around 126 billion, whereas your budget is 25 billion. And that's only counting for your Su-30's, so I didn't count all the other mentioned aircraft.
Might wanna rethink your strategy.
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Postby Strykla » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Narexia wrote:
Strykla wrote:After looking on your NSEconomy page, I see your budget is $25,337,804,133. The cost of 3,725 Su-30's is $126,650,000,000, or around 126 billion, whereas your budget is 25 billion. And that's only counting for your Su-30's, so I didn't count all the other mentioned aircraft.
Might wanna rethink your strategy.
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Not when you made domestically, no worries! :D

It's not that simple. Getting all the materials will cost a lot of money, as will be fashioning and assembling them.
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Postby Satirius » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:41 pm

calculators are useless and too often a club to beat some aspirant RPer over the head with by c&p'ing various numbers, get this thread back on topic guys
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It can effectively deploy troops, engage enemy armor, complete stealthy infiltrations, and engage enemy fighters with its AIM-9X missiles

It is not, however, supersonic.
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:52 pm

Your tiny country has more than twice the manned aircraft then the USAF, the largest and most powerful AF on the planet. And your country is a fraction of the size. Also USAF only operates 48 kinds of aircraft. Of these about 25% of these are variations of the C-130. Most of the types have less then 10 planes. The only aircraft that the USAF has anywhere near the amounts you have for your aircraft are the F-15, F-16, C-130, C-17, T-1, T-6, T-38, KC-135s, F-22s, and A-10s. These are the only 10 planes that the USAF has more then a hundred of.
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Postby Minnysota » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:54 pm

Satirius wrote:calculators are useless and too often a club to beat some aspirant RPer over the head with by c&p'ing various numbers, get this thread back on topic guys
Satirius wrote:The main fighter and infantry fighting vehicle is the M113-A "AeroGavin"
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It can effectively deploy troops, engage enemy armor, complete stealthy infiltrations, and engage enemy fighters with its AIM-9X missiles

It is not, however, supersonic.


How would the propellers be stealth?
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:57 pm

Satirius wrote:calculators are useless and too often a club to beat some aspirant RPer over the head with by c&p'ing various numbers, get this thread back on topic guys
Satirius wrote:The main fighter and infantry fighting vehicle is the M113-A "AeroGavin"
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It can effectively deploy troops, engage enemy armor, complete stealthy infiltrations, and engage enemy fighters with its AIM-9X missiles

It is not, however, supersonic.

Looking at this the body seems to be a M113, the wings and twin tail are from a OV-10 Bronco. Turret may also be off a M113 variant but I'm not sure. Not sure where the engine or missiles are from.
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Postby Licana » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:59 pm

The Corparation wrote:Your tiny country has more than twice the manned aircraft then the USAF, the largest and most powerful AF on the planet. And your country is a fraction of the size. Also USAF only operates 48 kinds of aircraft. Of these about 25% of these are variations of the C-130. Most of the types have less then 10 planes. The only aircraft that the USAF has anywhere near the amounts you have for your aircraft are the F-15, F-16, C-130, C-17, T-1, T-6, T-38, KC-135s, F-22s, and A-10s. These are the only 10 planes that the USAF has more then a hundred of.

Not to mention the fact this all of his aircraft are heavily modified and can travel over mach 2.5, I'm still loling at his PKA stats :lol: The engines would have to be immense to get it to mach 4 or higher, and would likely compromise the RCS, and even if it didn't, it would look like a second sun on IR.
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Postby Licana » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:11 pm

Altamirus wrote:
Licana wrote:Not to mention the fact this all of his aircraft are heavily modified and can travel over mach 2.5, I'm still loling at his PKA stats :lol: The engines would have to be immense to get it to mach 4 or higher, and would likely compromise the RCS, and even if it didn't, it would look like a second sun on IR.

Yeah, how the wholy hell can his aircraft fly over mach 2.5? IT seems like a wank to me.

Nice sarcasm thar, It isn't bad that his low-end aircraft could achieve Mach 2.5, but it is that his SU-37 can outrun a MiG-31, and his PKA can go almost a full mach faster than an SR-71. That pretty much IS wank, but nice picking one point on my post and ignoring the rest. :palm:
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby The Blue Helmets » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:37 pm

Narexia wrote:These are MODIFIED specs NOT THOSE OF THE REAL WORLD AIRCRAFT!

We use a very extensive range of combat aircraft all of which are based off of Russian/ former Soviet designs
Abbreviations: QTY: quantity R = recon, LR= long range, LRB = long range bomber, LRR = long range recon, LRI = long range interceptor, EWS = electronic warfare/surveillance, AB = afterburners, SV = standard variant, TU = training unit, LRI-LRB = combination variant, LRAS = long range anti-shipping

I shall start with the mig's!

MiG-21N: QTY: 1,275
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 1 R-35 @ 20,000 lbs/foot thrust w/AB
Range: 3,500km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 8 pylons 12,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 540 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 60 rounds


MiG-23N: QTY: 2,540
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Specs: (windened for two engines)
Crew: 1 or 2 on EWS, LRI, LRR, TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's @ 33,700 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,500km internal fuel except R (recon) 4,800km
Speed: mach 3.2 A & TU, 3.5 all other variants
Payload: 10 pylons 17lbs of payload all except "B", 14 pylons for 20,000 lbs "B"
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 720 rounds "A" & "TU", 1 GSh-23L with 900 rounds and 1 NN-37 with 80 shells "B", 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,200 rounds all others.

MiG-25N: QTY 550
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 on TU, LRI, LRR & LRB (long range bomber)
Engine: 2 DF-31's @ 48,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,400km SV & TU, 6,000km LRI, LRR & LRB
Speed: Mach 2.2 low altitude, 3.8 high alt. SV & TU and - mach 2.5 low, 4.25 high LRI, LRB, LRR variants
Payload: 6 pylons for 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-23L with 360 rounds on SV & TU, 1 GSh-6-23 with 1,000 rounds all others

MiG-27KN: QTY: 485
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Specs:
Crew:1 or 2 TU
Engine: 2 Vi-221C's (same as MiG-23N)
Range: 4,000km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 3.2
Payload: 12 pylons for 24,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds

MiG-29N: QTY: 3,770
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Specs:
Crew:1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-21's @ 25,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 2,500km on internal fuel
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 9 pylons 14,000 lbs ordinance
Gun: 1 GSh-30-1 with 275 rounds

MiG-31NBM QTY: 350 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 all versions
Engine: 2 SD-50's @ 58,750 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB -
OR - 2 SD-53's @ 71,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB LRI-LRB
Range: 4,800km SV and 7,350km LRI-LRB
Speed: mach 4.6 SV - OR - mach 5.4 LRI-LRB
Payload: 8 pylons for 20,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

MiG-35N: QTY: 120 + 40 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 AL-31N's @ 32,770 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 3,200km int. fuel
Speed: mach 2.75
Payload: 10 pylons for 20,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 350 rounds

And now the Sukhoi's!

Su-15N: QTY: 675
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV & 2 TU
Engine: 2 R-37B's @ 24,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 5,400km
Speed: mach 3.5
Payload: 6 pylons 10,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds and 2 NN-37's with 80 rounds each

Su-27N: QTY: 5,480
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV or 2 TU
Engine: 2 La-24's @ 30,000 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 12 pylons for 18,500 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-30N: QTY: 3,275
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Specs:
Crew: 2 SV, 3 TU & LR
Engine: 2 SL-44's @ 37,500 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 4,800km or 6,400 km LR
Speed: mach 2.5
Payload: 17 pylons for 25,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

Su-33N: QTY: 400 + 50 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 SV
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 2.85
Payload: 14 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 400 rounds

Su-34N: QTY: 875 + 120 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 2 on SV - or - 4 on TU, LR, LRB, LRAS, EWS
Engine: 2 SL-45's @ 41,250 lbs/foot thrust each w/AB
Range: 6,000km SV - OR - 9,000km LR, LRB, LRAS
Speed: mach 2.5 ~ 2.8 depending on fuel and payload carried
Payload: 16 pylons for 30,000 lbs load
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 1,000 rounds

Su-35N: QTY: 330 + 70 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-44's
Range: 4,000km
Speed: mach 3.25+
Payload: 14 pylons for 22,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 500 rounds

Su-37N: QTY: 120 + 60 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: 2 SL-45's
Range: 5,300km
Speed: mach 3.6+
Payload: 16 pylons for 24,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-30-2 with 600 rounds

PAK-FA (T-50) QTY: 12 + 36 more on order
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Specs:
Crew: 1 only
Engine: SL-50's @ 50,000 lbs/foot each thrust w/AB
Range: 6,700km
Speed: mach 4+
Payload: 16 pylons for 21,000 lbs
Gun: 1 GSh-6-30 with 800 rounds


Let's just all forget this post... ok?

Well, The Blue Helmets Main Fighter Plane is the Su-30 MKI
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