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Legolannd
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Does the United States exist in your canon?

Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:11 am

Does your nation's canon include the United States, or did it never exist or did you come after it?

Legolannd maintains amazing relations with the US.

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Waldoven
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Postby Waldoven » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:17 am

The USA is partially ruined/destroyed and all countries have lost contact with each other and most countries are gone
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Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:17 am

Waldoven wrote:The USA is partially ruined/destroyed and all countries have lost contact with each other most countries are gone

Wow.......... Okay. Cool.

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Great Terra and its Dominions
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Postby Great Terra and its Dominions » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:18 am

The United States no longer exists in the current date, however, it's descendant still lives. The World of Westwind claimed the title as the heir of the United States officially and it draws a lot of similarities, primarily being more democratic in it's political system, capitalistic and wealthier than many other planets.
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Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:18 am

Great Terra and its Dominions wrote:The United States no longer exists in the current date, however, it's descendant still lives. The World of Westwind claimed the title as the heir of the United States officially and it draws a lot of similarities, primarily being more democratic in it's political system, capitalistic and wealthier than many other planets.

I love democratic capitalistic nations.

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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:20 am

No, the closest thing is the North American Region of the United Terran Republics.
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Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:20 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:No, the closest thing is the North American Region of the United Terran Republics.

Cool.

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Postby Novosibirsk Titoists » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:32 am

It's still intact in my canon, however California seperated because of commies taking over the place. California hates FNT and vice verca, though with remaining US, Federation has good relations. We share same love for guns, mostly same values(family,religion etc...) and love for free market. Also US even helped FNT couple of times during the Liberation War, mainly suppling surplus and some outdated equipment that can be handy in our situation.
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Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:35 am

Novosibirsk Titoists wrote:It's still intact in my canon, however California seperated because of commies taking over the place. California hates FNT and vice verca, though with remaining US, Federation has good relations. We share same love for guns, mostly same values(family,religion etc...) and love for free market. Also US even helped FNT couple of times during the Liberation War, mainly suppling surplus and some outdated equipment that can be handy in our situation.

Damn commies. Neato.

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Postby The Kualti Computing Unit » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:34 am

The US was one of the last countries we took over before conquering the entire solar system.
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Postby Kihodova Hopi » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:38 am

No, nor will it ever exist. By the time Europe recovers and tries to colonize the Americas, the Americas will be at a tech level similar to Asia/Europe during the 14/1500s minus the guns
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Postby Xupqeu » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:43 am

No, but we have the equivalent country, the United Federation of Columbia that we have a good relation with.
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Konolas
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Postby Konolas » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:45 am

It exists, as my canon is based primarly of the real world, but we don’t keep super good relation as we just only opened the Konolasian embassy in the US

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Postby Zhouran » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:46 am

In The Supreme A.I alt-canon, the US simply suffered a second great-depression due to the late-stage neoliberal decay of the US economy along with a sharp deterioration in race relations, a weakening of social cohesion and a rise in white-supremacist terrorism, all fueled by white paranoia and disenfranchisement among the white population created by poor economic conditions on the people from decades of neoliberal trickle-down economics and corporate monopolization along with the privatization of healthcare & education and reduced spending on social security, thus radicalizing white americans into white-supremacists that blame all the problems on immigrants, people-of-color, and made-up boogeymen such as 'cultural-marxists' and 'liberal commie-socialist-nazi globalists' and all them meaningless buzzwords rather than actually hunting down the actual source of the issue (late-stage capitalism, neoliberal decay, Republican Party, the evangelical right, the Alt-Right). In the end, following a devastating global recession that affects most of the western world, the US becomes an isolationist husk of its former self under an evangelical far-right regime, a broken divided police-state that faces daily protests and gun violence along with numerous counts of racial violence among the different racial groups. The ruling regime in the US yearns for the 'good ol' days' by invoking a romanticized imagery of the old days in America; a period where black people were either locked up in chains or segregated from the white population, a period where indigenous Native Americans were purposefully massacred by colonial settlers under the judeo-christian fantasy of 'Manifest Destiny' and the flimsy pseudoscience of 'racial-realism', a period where women were treated as second-class citizens and obedient house-drones, a period in which a group of foreign settlers revolted against the British Empire so they can take land for themselves instead in the name of 'freedom & liberty' (that's only given to the white settlers and not to anyone such as black slaves).

In this alt-canon, The Kangmukeli and the political-hardline establishment of Zhouran have designated this new USA as an 'international pariah state' and thus have placed extreme heavy sanctions on the already-weakened US. With the US no longer a superpower, Zhouran becomes the world's sole superpower with the world's largest economy. By the end of the 1970s, the Zhouranese economy became the second-largest in the world and during the start of the 1980s the country had been described as the world's third superpower; a non-aligned powerful alternative to both the US and the former Soviet Union. When the Cold War ended and the USSR collapsed in 1991, Zhouran and the US became the two remaining superpowers for the remainder of the 20th century and the start of the 21st century, although America's economic crisis was simply the result of America choking itself slowly to death with a rope for several decades. With the US experiencing intense unrest and an economy in shambles, the path to hyperpowerdom opens for the People's Republic of Zhouran while the US retreats into isolationism as US troops overseas are brought back home and US influence abroad wanes, however with Zhouran being the sole superpower this has led to increased competition and rivalry with a rising China, with many analysts in Zhouran and abroad fearing of a potential cold war brewing between the two Asian socialist giants.

The alt-canon is simply a work of fiction but the backstory is based on observation of current trends in the west, particularly the US...

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Postby Greater Cosmicium » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:49 am

The United States no longer exists in our universe, after Cosmicium conquered the USA, weakened by nuclear war with the USSR, China and the European Republic, between 2143 and 2146 in a costly campaign. Most of its historic cities, like some sort of time capsule still exist in their pre-war state, as with the rest of Terra.
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:02 am

The United States, along with the other major Earth powers of United Europe, United Africa, Russia, the Mars Alliance, and China, were all assimilated by the Mainframe in 2107. Major cities such as New York City and Los Angeles still exist but would likely be unrecognizable after a thousand years of rapid change.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:26 am

Yes. The USA was reponsible for TurtleShroom's acquisition of the wealthy Dixie planters and the ultimate imposition of their linguistic culture over the previously Slavic culture.
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Thakia
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Postby Thakia » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:31 am

No, The U.S.A were destroyed alongside Terra Prima ( Planet Earth) by Mortis and the forces of death, but his culture lives on Terra Nova inside The Markosian Federation.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 am

The USA ceased to exist after the 2nd World War
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:38 am

Yes, and we like them (although we suspect that Tinhampton may be a bit too small to merit any significant reply).
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Postby Legolannd » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:40 am

Tinhampton wrote:Yes, and we like them (although we suspect that Tinhampton may be a bit too small to merit any significant reply).

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Postby 3rdBritan » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:43 am

im my timeline the United states of America formed into neo Columbia- a ultra nationalist Russian descendant super state

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Postby Andocara » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:56 pm

Yes, it is near Andocara, and the it is almost no different than the real life United States. While Andocara is a mutual ally of the United States, most Americans ignore Andocara and vice versa. California does have the closest ties with Andocara, so California May be the most different. Avcoda Island is split between California and Andocara.

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Postby Altemoosburg II » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:06 pm

In the universe of Altemoosburg, the USA was destroyed by ruthless dictators that reigned with tyranny. Altemoosburg went to war with America and eventually took control of the nation. America is now split between The Kingdom of America with the Altemoosburgian Archduke's kind and loyal cousin in charge, and the colony of Hudsoninia ruled by the Archduke's Loyal and brave brother.
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Postby Kyrusia » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:52 pm

Insufficient OP; iLock. This would be best placed in the Miscellaneous Worldbuilding Thread.
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