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Ktathria
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Nations with prohibition of alcohol

Postby Ktathria » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:38 pm

A debate on prohibition has been tabled in the Ktathrian Confederate Council.

Our head of state, the High Priestess, has brought forth the possibility of banning the production and sale of alcohol throughout the Confederacy. She can't pass legislation autonomously but most of the Council have already indicated that they favour prohibition, as have the ruling groups on two out of four of our State Assemblies.

Ktathria respectfully seeks the views of the international community on this major potential new law.

Have any nations implemented prohibition?

Is it still in force?

What problems did it solve, or cause?

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?

We will be extremely grateful for any experiences shared.

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Mahrenbach
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Postby Mahrenbach » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:10 pm

Alcohol is completly legal inside the Mahrenbach Federation and can be legally purchased in licensed stores by anyone above the age of eightteen.

Prohibition of Alcohol has never been considered in mahrenbachian history.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:50 pm

Have any nations implemented prohibition?
TurtleShroom has enforced the Prohibition on alcohol since 1796 AD.


Is it still in force?
Yes.


What problems did it solve, or cause?
It solved the issues of Slavic drinking culture, broken families, abuse, and public health crisis.

It caused organized crime, moonshining, and speakeasies. So many...


Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?
A majority of TurtleShroomers believe the Prohibition will never truly succeed or accomplish what it was intended to do, but a supermajority nonetheless continues to support it.
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Anollasia
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Postby Anollasia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:38 pm

Have any nations implemented prohibition? Alcohol was prohibited from 1828 to 1844 and 1985 to 1989.

Is it still in force? No, as it violates the article in the constitution about freedom of choice.

What problems did it solve, or cause? In the first prohibition, government at the time was highly Islamic and prohibited alcohol. This pleased many Muslims but angered many Christians and only contributed to the Religious Riots between Christians and Muslims. In the second prohibition, alcohol was prohibited by the Conservative government. It reduced alcohol consumption and drunk driving. On the other hand, several people relied on illegal markets to get alcohol, which not only caused a black market problem but also a safety issue, as these alcoholic beverages weren't always produced according to sanitary/health standards.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people? As a whole, it was a negative thing. Though it did slightly reduce alcohol consumption and drunk driving, it also created a large black market and safety issues. It also violated the constitution and created animosity between different groups of people and between the people and the government.

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Rhodesia-Zimbabwe
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Postby Rhodesia-Zimbabwe » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:41 pm

You can have my Lion Lager when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
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South Central Siberia
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Postby South Central Siberia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:53 pm

There is no reason for our nation to ban alcohol. We accept that its' use is a personal decision. We ban the sale of alcohol to those under 18 years of age. Those who do not wish to drink, do not, we have plenty of non-alcoholic alternatives. Those who do, have plenty of places where they can purchase or consume it. We enforce DUI violations, however, as well disorderly conduct. Open containers on the street are legal, as long as the individual is orderly and behaves in a civil manner. Open containers in vehicles are banned.

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Khataiy
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Postby Khataiy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:16 pm

Alcohol is legal to very small extent but heavily restricted and only truly available in the city of Iskanderun and former Suwadiya to tourists, it is very hard for normal Khataiyi citizen to obtain alcohol.

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Ko-oren
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Postby Ko-oren » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:33 pm

It has been prohibited for a time in Ko-oren. As an island nation, it is slightly easier to uphold a prohibition. But not easy enough.

Is it still in force?
No

What problems did it solve, or cause?
Lots of unsafe home brewed stuff, increased corruption around (air)ports.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?
A bad thing. Alcohol is now being discouraged in a number of different ways.
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Kuominwave
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Postby Kuominwave » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:55 pm

Prohibition has been in force ever since the Kuominwave Enpire was founded. It has prevented the problems of drunk driving and prevented countless crimes under the influence. Therefore, we believe that prohibition has been a good thing for our people.
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Agarntrop
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:15 pm

Have any nations implemented prohibition?
Never nationally, but used by local authorities.

Is it still in force?
The last council lifted their prohibition law in 2012, although it has been rarely enforced since the 1990s. The last person convicted was fined 25§ ($27.50) in 2010.

What problems did it solve, or cause?
It was generally deemed to be an unsuccessful policy that just worsened alcoholism.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?
Prohibition is very unpopular, and only 31% of the population supported it in the most recent survey.
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Lillorainen
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Postby Lillorainen » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:44 am

Rhodesia-Zimbabwe wrote:You can have my Lion Lager when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

This. Alcohol prohibition has never been a thing, or even considered, anywhere on the Federation's soil. Attempts into that direction would be likely to result in all Lillos remembering, that they are old resistance fighters.
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Scorpio Spikal
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Postby Scorpio Spikal » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:41 am

Alcohol existed within the early days of the Federation (when the Forest Nation still existed) but now it got dropped completely. It is still legal, but no Scorpio Spikal ever drinks it in exchange for healthier, non-addictive versions of alcohol such as the flower-named lilacs, lavenders and goldenrods. All of these drugs are named after flowers. For humans, however, about 35% of the human population drinks alcohol, and accounts for a majority of SSF crime (specifically due to being drunk).
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Skyhooked
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Postby Skyhooked » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:55 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition?
-We used to have it before the revolution. Then... we became one of the drunkiest places in the world.

Is it still in force?
-Hell no. And any attempt to reinstate it is one of the fastest way to end political career in Skyhooked. If other country attempts to enforce this in SKyhooked, we will retalitate and this won't be pleasant.

What problems did it solve, or cause?
-While it solved some of those alcohol related problems, criminal sindicates rose in power by making cheap ass low quality moonshine, that sometimes was no better than pure poison. And then... we got not only church, corporate and state oppression, but also mafia oppression.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation?
-Well, it sucked. Some locals claim, that it was one of the causes of revolution. Nowdays, we consider it a sacrilege, that can affect relations between us and other country if it imposes it. Affect a in negative way.

Lillorainen wrote:
Rhodesia-Zimbabwe wrote:You can have my Lion Lager when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

This. Alcohol prohibition has never been a thing, or even considered, anywhere on the Federation's soil. Attempts into that direction would be likely to result in all Lillos remembering, that they are old resistance fighters.


Where can Skyhooked sign in to join this booze coalition?
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Lillorainen
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Postby Lillorainen » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:37 am

Skyhooked wrote:Where can Skyhooked sign in to join this booze coalition?

We should found one, really. ^^
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The Terran Concordium
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Postby The Terran Concordium » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:29 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition?
No such law was ever attempted at the federal level since banning alcohol for a vast populace is bound to upset more than just a minority. However, smaller sectors and localised planetary government have banned alcohol to varying levels of success.
Is it still in force?

Depends on which planetary system you're looking at. Those with corrupt leaders or apathetic populaces usually don't care about such laws anyway.
What problems did it solve, or cause?

For some areas it decreased criminal activities as it forced shutdowns of large criminally run fronts. However it also created a bootlegging problem.
Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?

Generally most would say its ineffective.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:41 am

Alcohol has never been prohibited in Thermodolia
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Newark Aristocracy
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Postby Newark Aristocracy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:53 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition? From 1941-1960 alcohol over 3% was banned nation wide. Newark County had a law from 1941-1998 where it was illegal to buy and sell anything with over 1% alcohol. As a result of the law in Newark County,a massive riot occurred in 1996

Is it still in force? Only in Canton Province.

What problems did it solve, or cause? It solved drunk driving,but led to a massive increase of crime within the nation.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?
A very bad thing for our nation,but in Canton Province,crime has actually decreased.

We will be extremely grateful for any experiences shared.

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Coconut Palm Island
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Postby Coconut Palm Island » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:49 pm

Our nation does not, and cannot, prohibit alcohol. The Royal Charter states that any adult (16 and older) can purchase any psychoactive substances for personal consumption. This includes drugs, but also alcohol.
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Victorious Decepticons
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:27 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition? Not us, but our syndicates have plenty of customers with prohibition in force.

Is it still in force? It was never here to begin with.

What problems did it solve, or cause? Prohibition makes the price of simple ethanol spike through the ceiling. This causes our syndicates to quickly set up lines to supply places with prohibition with what is, to us, a crappy Energon substitute only good for emergency use. We don't think this is a problem at all.

The prohibition-having nations, on the other hand, don't seem to appreciate the massive influx of booze and deadly, bulletproof, space-mafia androids that sell it. They often set up entire task forces to try to interfere with our Fine Businesspeople, not realizing that they are actually dealing with Decepticons in war-grade bodies that just *look like* the local species. We suppose they think it's a problem when their cops get mowed down when they try to barge into our speakeasies, but too bad. We would prefer to just pay bribes to the cops, though, because too much shooting might scare away the customers.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people? Prohibition of anything helps our nation and its people by giving them something that they can buy here for dirt cheap and then smuggle into the prohibition nations to sell for a 10,000% markup. A Decepticon can get very rich doing this, whereas if he sold the same thing where it was legal, he wouldn't even make enough to cover the cost of shipping.
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Barfleur
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Postby Barfleur » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:04 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition? As a nation committed to personal freedoms, Barfleur has never implemented prohibition.

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Cottony
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Postby Cottony » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:23 pm

Sale of alcohol is largely prohibited and import illegal.

Feel free to grow and make your own on the island, just don't sell it or bring alcohol from overseas over the border.

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Bluelight-R006
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:26 pm

Alcohol has been allowed in Bluelight since 1654.

We think that the people have rights to alcohol. However, it’s consumption should be regulated. To prevent harm to others (like drunk driving > car accidents), there should be laws that restrict an act after consumption alcohol, we suggest.

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The Eternal Kawaii
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Postby The Eternal Kawaii » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:56 pm

Unlike popular perception, alcohol is not prohibited among Kawaiians. It is, however, heavily regulated, and as Kawaiian custom forbids drinking alcohol among non-Kawaiians, many foreigners believe we're a "dry" culture.

As for the regluations, there are several:
  • Only men are permitted to consume alcohol; it is forbidden to women. Boys are permitted to drink, but only under the supervision of an adult relative.
  • A Kawaiian man who wishes to indulge in alcohol must name a "watcher", basically someone who keeps track of how much he's drunk, and if he gets to the point of impairment, looks after him to ensure he doesn't violate any law or custom in his drunken state. This is a legal obligation; a "watcher" is liable for anything a drunken Kawaiian does while under his watch.
  • More a superstition than a formal law, but there is a custom that a container of alcohol, once opened, must be entirely consumed. Also, any time alcohol is put into a container for storage, it must be ritually blessed before sealing it. There's a common Kawaiian belief that demons are attracted to alcohol, and will enter an unsealed, unblessed bottle and in turn possess anyone who drinks from it.
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Shikonjima
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Postby Shikonjima » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:27 am

Have any nations implemented prohibition?
Not Shikonjima as a whole, only one Fief, the Barony of Karishima, has tried prohibition from 1918 to 1922.

Is it still in force?
No.

What problems did it solve, or cause?
What it solved: It boosted Baron Hideo's ego (basically the reason why he implemented it).
What it caused: Massive smuggling, the production of moonshine which to consume was about as healthy as drinking brake fluid, the birth of crime syndicates, and eventually, when all this went out of control, a popular protest. Yeah, congratulations.

Has prohibition on the whole been a good thing or a bad thing for your nation and its people?
As stated above, the idea itself is considered pretty crappy, given how excellently this worked. It was the only attempt to ban alcohol, and will certainly remain the last one on Shikonjimanese soil.
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Saralonia
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Postby Saralonia » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:10 am

The Communist Confederation of Saralonia has prohibition but these laws are not enforced in all the Saralonian states/territories.

And the law is in the prosedure to be reppelled and the effects of this law were well....

•Initial protests from various workers and government officials.
•Initial lower productivity from ex alcoholics.
•More crimes at the long term thanks to alcoholics wanting their alcohol recurring to organized crime to get it.
•At the start there was lower crime
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