The Thrinian Catholic Church in your nation.(no war/threats)

[Of the Quendi]

The nation of Tsivina refuses any incursions of foreign faiths into its territory. All citizens of this nation follow the national religion. Deviants are punished accordingly. If missionaries from faiths other than Dear Leaderism sneak into the country, will be shot on sight if they make it one step past the border.

A bold stance from a state with a GDP smaller then that of a medium sized Quendi province. For Tsivina's sake one can only hope that any Quendi citizen wearing the mantle of a thrinian priest found in your nation will not be harmd. The alternatives for Tsivina could be most unfortunate.

[New Acardia]

Dear Brother in Christ the Thrinian Catholic church under stands the liberalism of which you speak is fertile soil for evil
Your brother in Christ Cardinal Casmir Jordin

It is my understanding that the most holy apostolic Thrinian Catholic Church is not that involved in politics.
We deeply oppose anny kind of corruption or oppression in anny nation.
So that would include the far right just as much as the far left.
Signed Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

Dear Brother Borgia
What I was talking about was the far left and cultural liberalism. That leads to corruption and edventuail oppression. That is what I think they need to hear. Then they will hear us when we talk about corruption and oppression from the far right.
Singed Your Brother in Christ Casmir Jordin

[Thrinia]

It is my understanding that the most holy apostolic Thrinian Catholic Church is not that involved in politics.
We deeply oppose anny kind of corruption or oppression in anny nation.
So that would include the far right just as much as the far left.
Signed Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

Dear Brother Borgia
What I was talking about was the far left and cultural liberalism. That leads to corruption and edventuail oppression. That is what I think they need to hear. Then they will hear us when we talk about corruption and oppression from the far right.
Singed Your Brother in Christ Casmir Jordin

All forms of oppression need be be addressed equally or we as a church will lose all credibility.
Let us now get back to points of faith rather than politics.
Signed by a humble servant of god Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

[New Acardia]

Dear Brother Savoy
You have insulated most of the people in New Acardia both Christian and none christian. Because George Bush is viewed as a hero (Who tryed to save the Old Union) From the forces of evil
Signed Cardinal Casmir Jordin

Your eminence Casmir Jordin:
I just believe that no mans blood lust is a thing to admire.
Yes he did fight an enemy who users barbaric practices at first.
But just because you fight an enemy who wields tools of evil does not automatically make you good.
I do not mean to insult anybody but it is just his religious hypocrisy that greatly irritates me.
And he said: "If you are not with us you are with the terrorists"
We as the thrinian Catholic Church seek to unite the world and not divide it.
I am not trying to offend anybody i am just saying that some Christians abuse the holy bible to perpetuate political rather than spiritual goals.
I am trying to make the church less political not more.
I am not saying my views are right per definition for as a mortal simple soul i have no right to claim absolutes.
That power lies solely with our lord who looks at all of us with great love as all loving parents will.
Bless you brother in this life and the next.
Signed Brother Savoy.

Dear Brother Savoy

I am trying to make the church less political as well. And also Rember the old saying There is no middle ground between good and evil.
Your Brother in Christ Cardinal Casmir Jordin

[New Acardia]

Dear Brother Borgia
What I was talking about was the far left and cultural liberalism. That leads to corruption and edventuail oppression. That is what I think they need to hear. Then they will hear us when we talk about corruption and oppression from the far right.
Singed Your Brother in Christ Casmir Jordin

All forms of oppression need be be addressed equally or we as a church will lose all credibility.
Let us now get back to points of faith rather than politics.
Signed by a humble servant of god Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

Dear Brother Borgia
We Are on the same page on this point
Your Brother in Christ Casmir Jordin

[Thrinia]

Your eminence Casmir Jordin:
I just believe that no mans blood lust is a thing to admire.
Yes he did fight an enemy who users barbaric practices at first.
But just because you fight an enemy who wields tools of evil does not automatically make you good.
I do not mean to insult anybody but it is just his religious hypocrisy that greatly irritates me.
And he said: "If you are not with us you are with the terrorists"
We as the thrinian Catholic Church seek to unite the world and not divide it.
I am not trying to offend anybody i am just saying that some Christians abuse the holy bible to perpetuate political rather than spiritual goals.
I am trying to make the church less political not more.
I am not saying my views are right per definition for as a mortal simple soul i have no right to claim absolutes.
That power lies solely with our lord who looks at all of us with great love as all loving parents will.
Bless you brother in this life and the next.
Signed Brother Savoy.

Dear Brother Savoy

I am trying to make the church less political as well. And also Rember the old saying There is no middle ground between good and evil.
Your Brother in Christ Cardinal Casmir Jordin

With all due respect we are not a far right political organization.
For instance terrorist attacks on civilians are evil.
However so is torturing prisoners of war.
The both are both a grave sin and completely go against the gospel.
Signed Brother Savoy.

[Thrinia]

All forms of oppression need be be addressed equally or we as a church will lose all credibility.
Let us now get back to points of faith rather than politics.
Signed by a humble servant of god Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

Dear Brother Borgia
We Are on the same page on this point
Your Brother in Christ Casmir Jordin

I am glad to hear that now let us get back to running our most holy church.
Signed by a humble servant of god Cardinal Pedro Borgia.

[The Papal City]

From the Sacred Office of his Holliness Pope John Paul III, the Vicar of Christ
Given in Saint Pierre's, the Sovereign and Apostolic City of Genève of the Holy Cross

Brothers and sisters on the faith be greeted.

The recent debate of politics and religion sparked by the overtly political stances on spirituality professed by states such as the Strick Lands and Lodricar has not gone unnoticed in the Holy See and thus it shall here, in hos holliness's epistle to the churches in Acardia and Thrinia, be addressed.

It has indeed always been a problematic issue to mix religion with politics. Politicians from both sides of the left right spectrum has often attempted to use religion to further their own stances, the godless regimes of nazism and fascism of the middle part of the past century will allways stand as a dark example of christianity being used to further a political agenda.

But what policy should our church, its local and central branches alike, adopt in regards to the societies in which it flourishes? Should the church make a virtue of staying out of all political debate and focus solely on what has always been the church's must holy task, the caretaking of souls. Should the church stand by when a liberal government allows women nine months pregnant to have an abortion? Should the church say nothing when a conservative government allows its poor to starve in its streets? The answer to that question must always be to look to our lord and saviour. Did Christ refrain from making political statements? No, on the contrary the saviour addressed countless political issues facing the Palestine of his time. But one statement that Christ made should always be in the mind of a cleric speaking in political matters:

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"

This statement, mentioned in several gospels, is important to remember in political debates. It is important to keep the two matters of politics and spirituality separate. That does not mean that one cannot with the bible in hand address the wrongs of society, wrongs that exist on both sides of the left right spectrum. It does however mean that what is God's and what is Caesar's should not be mixed or intertwined.

In regards to the debate concerning the former president George W. Bush the church is not eager to take a side for he above mentioned reasons. While certainly mr. Bush wronged God in one or more manners then so did both his predeccesors and so does his successor. No prince, no Caesar, is perfect. Some or worse then others but not one is as the King of Heaven perfect.

On the matter of the aledged vision mr. Bush has had from God the church knows not if there is truth to mr. Bush, or supporters of mr. Bush claiming such visions to have taken place. Should it however be true then mr. Bush is indeed worthy of the condemnation of our Holy Mother Church. "You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name" Thus says the ten commandments and claiming to have been directed by God is most certainly a violation of that. Has mr. Bush made these allegations he has offended the lord, has he not made such allegations he has not offended god, and that is the Holy See's final word on the matter. Now, brother Savoy, brother Borgia, brother Jordin, make your peace with your political differences and accept that you are different from one another. Now you have my blessing to go out and make the christians of the Strick Lands and other states where the message of God has been corrupted by "Caesar" recant what should be recanted.

In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti. Amen

- HH Pope John Paul III

[Idizlykyu]

Religion is criminalised as it is subversive.

[Of the Quendi]

Religion is criminalised as it is subversive.

Idizlyky should probarbly rethink this stance if it wishes to prosper in a globalized world. Or exist in one for that matter.

[The Papal City]

-Snip-

Delightful, start work whenever you please. Also, people from around the city (and not just of the Thrinian faith) would like to donate money, supplies, and two construction companies would even like to donate some workers.
Enclosed is a picture of the lot

That is most pleasing news. As the church is to be named after the now beatified Girolamo Savonarola we expect that the church in Thrinia itself, especially the affluent Borgia family, will provide generous wages to all involved as Girolamo Savonarola has already long been worshipped as a saint in that part of the Thrinian world.

Furthemore his holliness, in a relentless effort to further closer ties between all the children of God, will send one of hi personal envoys to Herador to oversee the establishment of the new Province of Herador as well as to meet with religious leaders of the more prominent orthodox church.

[New Acardia]

From the Sacred Office of his Holliness Pope John Paul III, the Vicar of Christ
Given in Saint Pierre's, the Sovereign and Apostolic City of Genève of the Holy Cross

Brothers and sisters on the faith be greeted.

The recent debate of politics and religion sparked by the overtly political stances on spirituality professed by states such as the Strick Lands and Lodricar has not gone unnoticed in the Holy See and thus it shall here, in hos holliness's epistle to the churches in Acardia and Thrinia, be addressed.

It has indeed always been a problematic issue to mix religion with politics. Politicians from both sides of the left right spectrum has often attempted to use religion to further their own stances, the godless regimes of nazism and fascism of the middle part of the past century will allways stand as a dark example of christianity being used to further a political agenda.

But what policy should our church, its local and central branches alike, adopt in regards to the societies in which it flourishes? Should the church make a virtue of staying out of all political debate and focus solely on what has always been the church's must holy task, the caretaking of souls. Should the
church stand by when a liberal government allows women nine months pregnant to have an abortion? Should the church say nothing when a conservative government allows its poor to starve in its streets? The answer to that question must always be to look to our lord and saviour. Did Christ refrain from making political statements? No, on the contrary the saviour addressed countless political issues facing the Palestine of his time. But one statement that Christ made should always be in the mind of a cleric speaking in political matters:

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"

This statement, mentioned in several gospels, is important to remember in political debates. It is important to keep the two matters of politics and spirituality separate. That does not mean that one cannot with the bible in hand address the wrongs of society, wrongs that exist on both sides of the left right spectrum. It does however mean that what is God's and what is Caesar's should not be mixed or intertwined.

In regards to the debate concerning the former president George W. Bush the church is not eager to take a side for he above mentioned reasons. While certainly mr. Bush wronged God in one or more manners then so did both his predeccesors and so does his successor. No prince, no Caesar, is perfect. Some or worse then others but not one is as the King of Heaven perfect.

On the matter of the aledged vision mr. Bush has had from God the church knows not if there is truth to mr. Bush, or supporters of mr. Bush claiming such visions to have taken place. Should it however be true then mr. Bush is indeed worthy of the condemnation of our Holy Mother Church. "You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name" Thus says the ten commandments and claiming to have been directed by God is most certainly a violation of that. Has mr. Bush made these allegations he has offended the lord, has he not made such allegations he has not offended god, and that is the Holy See's final word on the matter. Now, brother Savoy, brother Borgia, brother Jordin, make your peace with your political differences and accept that you are different from one another. Now you have my blessing to go out and make the christians of the Strick Lands and other states where the message of God has been corrupted by "Caesar" recant what should be recanted.

In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti. Amen

- HH Pope John Paul III

Dear Holy Father
Me and Brother Borgia have all ready come to the conclusion that we are on the same page. Even tho we started at opposite ends of the book.
Your Brother in Christ Cardinal Casmir Jordin

[Tsivina]

A bold stance from a state with a GDP smaller then that of a medium sized Quendi province. For Tsivina's sake one can only hope that any Quendi citizen wearing the mantle of a thrinian priest found in your nation will not be harmd. The alternatives for Tsivina could be most unfortunate.

The nation of Tsivina would hope that unfriendly states from outside its regional allies would not stoop so low as to force religion into its borders. Border security and control is the fundamental right of any nation; Tsivina has no problem with other, less well-controlled nations doing what they will, but border incursions of any kind will be met with hostility.

[Of the Quendi]

A bold stance from a state with a GDP smaller then that of a medium sized Quendi province. For Tsivina's sake one can only hope that any Quendi citizen wearing the mantle of a thrinian priest found in your nation will not be harmd. The alternatives for Tsivina could be most unfortunate.

The nation of Tsivina would hope that unfriendly states from outside its regional allies would not stoop so low as to force religion into its borders. Border security and control is the fundamental right of any nation; Tsivina has no problem with other, less well-controlled nations doing what they will, but border incursions of any kind will be met with hostility.

No one has mentioned border security and control. No the People and Senate talks about far more vital and crucial things. We talk of the jus cogens of the right to free thinking and as such also the right to have a faith. If Tsivina is in violation of that jus cogens then the People and Senate does not even recognise Tsivina as a state and would as such have no quarrels with bringing freedom to the people of Tsivina (it goes without sayin that the Nation of Tsivina is recognised, that too is jus cogens)

[Nova Marsica]

The Marsi are overwhelmingly pagan, with Jews being the second largest group, but there are some 253 Thrinian Catholics, compared to 124 Roman Catholics, 46 Assyrians, and 18 Protestants (all Waldensian) at last count.

[Thrinia]

The Marsi are overwhelmingly pagan, with Jews being the second largest group, but there are some 253 Thrinian Catholics, compared to 124 Roman Catholics, 46 Assyrians, and 18 Protestants (all Waldensian) at last count.

If they need Anny help at all please let us know.
Signed Cardinal Borgia.

[Of the Quendi]

The Marsi are overwhelmingly pagan, with Jews being the second largest group, but there are some 253 Thrinian Catholics, compared to 124 Roman Catholics, 46 Assyrians, and 18 Protestants (all Waldensian) at last count.

If they need Anny help at all please let us know.
Signed Cardinal Borgia.

At least we outnumber the romans 2:1.

[Appalachialand]

None. The only church allowed is the Fundamentalist Bible Baptist Church, and attendance is mandatory!
No other religions are legal and dissenters are shot on sight!

[Raniz (Ancient)]

We would allow a church to be build for the 738 Thrinian Catholics in Raniz. However we will NOT give financhial aid. And the church must abide to all laws. This includes that all bishops etc. Will not have any form of diplomatic immunity and must abide to Raniz laws.

[New Acardia]

We would allow a church to be build for the 738 Thrinian Catholics in Raniz. However we will NOT give financhial aid. And the church must abide to all laws. This includes that all bishops etc. Will not have any form of diplomatic immunity and must abide to Raniz laws.

That would be fine with us because all Thrinians clergy and lay people are expected to be good citizens of the lands in where they live nor does the church wish state support.
Signed Cardinal Casmir Jordin

[New Acardia]

We would rather educate our own priests as we do not want our faithful to worship a cardboard cutout of some bloodthirsty political figurehead.
I hope you will understand.
Signed Brother Savoy.

Pentecostals worship Jesus the Christ, I don't know what in God's creation your talking about.
Also you have no faithfuls in our land.

To my fellow Brother in Christ President Chad M Strickland
The Thrinian Catholic Church despises the liberalism that you talk about but rember this we will not be mouth pieces to any earthly Ideology ether
Signed your brothers in Christ Cardinal Casmir Jordin and Arch Priest Vilham Stanwitz

[Egalitarian Akros]

There are 391 Thrinian Catholics in Egalitarian Akros. They all live in Lyzyka, the capital city.

[Xanicea]

If the Thrinian Catholic Church wishes to establish a foothold in our nation, they may try. Our nation's government is secular and will offer no support, but you are free to send missionaries and build churches within our nation, so long as no religious crime or rioting occurs. We have our Mesa Verde: Axiom Division monitoring religions for violent/disruptive activity.

Also, most of Xanicea is Roman Catholic already, so conversions will probably be difficult if not impossible to achieve. Still, the government agrees to stay out of such affairs - not adhering to one religion - and is willing to allow your people into our nation with open arms.

[Thrinia]

There are 391 Thrinian Catholics in Egalitarian Akros. They all live in Lyzyka, the capital city.

If they need Anny sort of help aid or assistance please let me know.
Signed Cardinal Borgia.

[Thrinia]

If the Thrinian Catholic Church wishes to establish a foothold in our nation, they may try. Our nation's government is secular and will offer no support, but you are free to send missionaries and build churches within our nation, so long as no religious crime or rioting occurs. We have our Mesa Verde: Axiom Division monitoring religions for violent/disruptive activity.

Also, most of Xanicea is Roman Catholic already, so conversions will probably be difficult if not impossible to achieve. Still, the government agrees to stay out of such affairs - not adhering to one religion - and is willing to allow your people into our nation with open arms.

Those terms are not an issue for us at all.
You will find us a peaceful and friendly flock.
And we seek not to impose our faith on anybody.
We are merely giving them the opportunity if they wish to do so.
Even if it is just one man please inform us so we can send aid to this seeking soul.
Or as our former leader his holiness INNOCENT XIV once said:
"Even the conversion of a single soul is worth more than all jewels money gold and silver in the world"
Bless you.
Signed Cardinal Savonarola.