by Ah-eh-ioh-uh » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:20 pm
by Lillorainen » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:46 am
by Ah-eh-ioh-uh » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:58 am
Lillorainen wrote:Totally not replying to a clickbait ^^
Another interesting point of Vivan legislation that won't appear to be very common in the international community, that's for sure (that being said, you always make these interesting threads, keep this up!). At least I can't imagine that you'll find a lot of other nations that have such a Right to secede in their national law.
You won't be surprised that the Federation of Lillorainen (hereafter called FL, just saying to avoid confusion ) does not have such a right. The Federal Constitution actually doesn't provide any legal process for the case a state wishes to leave the FL, which is probably caused by the fact that no state has ever tried to do so within these 37 years since the Federation as such got established. If a territory wishes to join the FL (never happened, either, but there's an article for that, just in case), it has to be approved by a popular vote, the respective governing entity (if applicable), the State Chamber, as well as the Meritocratic Council - a 75% majority in each case needed. If these requirements are met for the case a state wishes to secede from the FL, it might be possible. However, this is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
If a territory trying to secede does so in a violent matter, then, of course, we'll react accordingly. But this is even less likely to happen soon. Actually, the overwhelming majority of people does like being citizens of the FL. Those who don't tend to just emigrate (which no one hinders them from).
by Lillorainen » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:57 am
Ah-eh-ioh-uh wrote:Lillorainen wrote:Totally not replying to a clickbait ^^
Another interesting point of Vivan legislation that won't appear to be very common in the international community, that's for sure (that being said, you always make these interesting threads, keep this up!). At least I can't imagine that you'll find a lot of other nations that have such a Right to secede in their national law.
You won't be surprised that the Federation of Lillorainen (hereafter called FL, just saying to avoid confusion ) does not have such a right. The Federal Constitution actually doesn't provide any legal process for the case a state wishes to leave the FL, which is probably caused by the fact that no state has ever tried to do so within these 37 years since the Federation as such got established. If a territory wishes to join the FL (never happened, either, but there's an article for that, just in case), it has to be approved by a popular vote, the respective governing entity (if applicable), the State Chamber, as well as the Meritocratic Council - a 75% majority in each case needed. If these requirements are met for the case a state wishes to secede from the FL, it might be possible. However, this is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
If a territory trying to secede does so in a violent matter, then, of course, we'll react accordingly. But this is even less likely to happen soon. Actually, the overwhelming majority of people does like being citizens of the FL. Those who don't tend to just emigrate (which no one hinders them from).
Oh that's so sweet of you! I didn't know I had a fan. I'm quite flattered someone has followed my posts on a continuous basis. Yeah, no one has ever tried to secede from the Empire before either though we've had some folks wanting into it. The only reason the idea of the right to secession was ever even considered was because the nation gained knowledge of OTHER nations dealing with independence revolution stuff going on and thought, "gee wizz you guys. If they don't want to be with you why the hell would YOU want to be with them?".
In Vivan mindset you can't expect someone to follow laws of a nation they no longer want to even live in. (It violates the very concept of voluntary participation and whatnot). If you make them stay all it means is that now you have a very high population of people who basically amount to criminals and internal enemies roaming around freely in the nation causing trouble. For Vivans it's like, "if you don't like our country go somewhere else, heck even start your own if you wish but just get the hell out of our hair".
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