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Imperial States America
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Postby Imperial States America » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:56 pm

We arrest them then show the world how we're "helping" the migrants then once the spot light I said off we take them into the desert or a remote area force them to dig a big hole then we kill them then bury their bodies in the unmarked mass grave. When asked about their condition we say that they returned to their home country even though in reality they were killed and buried in a massive unmarked grave in the middle of nowhere.

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Wytirnika
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Postby Wytirnika » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:58 pm

The only large caravan permitted in the territory of the Cities is the Okkonn column led by Córonel Cólmarr. Unauthorized caravans will be intercepted. If an agreement (ie tribute) can't be reached between the caravan and the Prodak, the caravan is turned around under threat of violence.
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Postby La Cosa Fedora » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:30 pm

Welcome them in with open arms in front of the cameras.

Then behind the scenes, process them according to ability and put them to work in special locations set up specifically to house such "volunteer" workers. Also, some of them will have no ability to work, and therefore they will either be used as propaganda to show that we treat migrant families in accordance with international law, or if they can't even look happy for the cameras then they will be volunteered for human experimentation.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:54 am

If they come by sea on Decepticon Earth, we'll react by having a suitably-sized gaggle of slavers waiting at the Transdimensional Warp Point. They will then either be sold for cheap as wild humans, or forcibly DNA-upgraded to Human v. 5.3 so that the slavers can get a decent amount of money for them. Which one it'll be depends on the slaver in question.

If they come by space, our raiders will disable their ships with blaster fire and then board with the intention of not only looting the ships, but stealing the ships themselves. The lucky "immigrants" will be taken as slaves, but if they approach near Cybertron, this is unlikely to happen. The slave markets are on Earth and other organic worlds, and those are too far away to make it worth it to fly 3 or 4 people to them. Therefore, the raiders will just toss them out into space and then tow their ships to Cybertron for sale as scrap metal. Of course, anything inside worth taking will be stripped out first.

Legitimate immigrants are processed by the Immigration Division, but there's never a "caravan" of those. Those come one at a time, two at the most, and they are far between. Not many people have the guts to really want to join us and live with our lack of laws. Even criminals think twice before they come here (or turn around once they get the details), because here, their intended victims will blast them if they get the chance to do so!

This means that any group trying to come here in droves is surely a bunch of refugees, and we almost never let those in as actual people (rather than as "creatures" with the status of mere property) - especially if they are fleeing a war or a hostile government. We believe that the amount of people in the typical refugee wave is quite enough to be a fighting force of its own, and since they chose to flee instead, they are considered cowards, wimps, and sub-Decepticons - suitable only for use as as labor animals at best.

No one is considered an "immigrant" here until they pass the citizenship test. Before that, they're either tourists or they're slaves. Ongoing non-citizen residence is prohibited without exception (tourists can only stay for 3 months total during their lifetimes. Once that time is up,you must either apply for citizenship or go away and stay gone. Those who try to overextend their stay get to "stay" - at a slave labor site).
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Postby Luminumbra » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:00 am

Fine, provided they swore to an oath of allegiance of the Dietus--our God-Emperor.

After swearing allegience, they must be baptized into our faith, or be slaughtered, as they would be in violation of the oath.
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Postby Cosmicium » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:32 am

Due to the new immigration law in 2028, all foreigners who want to immigrate to Cosmicium must register in advance to not be deported. As the caravan does not fit this, they will be immediately deported and sent back to their home country.
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Postby Subhurbia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:47 pm

Make them go through various checks to see who can become citizens and who doesn’t.
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Culhuaca
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Postby Culhuaca » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:48 pm

They would be processed according to existing immigration law. No special measures would be taken.

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Postby New Raffica » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:04 pm

In our case, a caravan would consist of a group of people landing on the planet. Most ships are monitored by unmanned stations in space and radar on the ground. Given the chance that a group is found to have landed, they will be taken by authorities and questioned. They are sent to orbital facilities where they are processed and told to leave. They can later apply for a visa if they wish
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Malavious
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Postby Malavious » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:49 pm

There is a heavily armed AI wall built specifically for situations like this. First it will Intimidate them with loud, booming, grounshaking sounds. If they don’t run back, some auto turrets will come online and it won’t be pretty.

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Hathian Prime
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Postby Hathian Prime » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:24 am

The only safe ways for immigrants to get into Hathian Prime is from the West and South, as the North is a deadly mountainous region, and the East is an ocean filled with ordnance from both the old and new wars. Once notified of the threat, the Supreme Leader would deploy the elite women and men of the Hathian Secret Police to the border in a line formation like the armies of old as they waited for the caravans . A few truck mounted MGs would fire warning shots as the caravan got into range. If the immigrants ran towards the wall of officers, or continued to walk forwards, they would be fired upon. If the caravan retreated, new construction of better border defenses would be made.
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Postby Sadakoyama » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:08 am

Just keep an eye on them, make sure they don't cause too much trouble. Sadakoyama is an unmanaged wilderness, full of apex predators and virulent disease. If anyone is left after a generation or two we might evaluate them for citizenship.
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Polyspastonia
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Postby Polyspastonia » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:19 am

Polyspastonia welcomes all, regardless of background. We will assign them free housing and try to integrate them as quickly as possible, helping them to gain citizenship should they desire it.
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The Tomerlands
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Postby The Tomerlands » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:21 am

Malagar wrote:A caravan of a few thousand immigrants are approaching your border with the intent to live in your nation, how does your nation react?

The Malagarian government would recognize them as an invading force and would hold them in one of the old internment camps until their home country makes arrangements to retrieve them.


It's not really an invading force if they aren't actually invading. That involves violence which is what your government would do. So which one is the real bad thing again?

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The Tomerlands
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Postby The Tomerlands » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:22 am

Saint Gloria wrote:Stop them at the border, them deport them to they're home nation/nations


You can't deport if they aren't in the country yet. Plus they aren't even doing anything.

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The Tomerlands
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Postby The Tomerlands » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:24 am

All immigrants would be accepted in and after a background check they can either stay or stay and become citizens.

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Postby The Tomerlands » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:24 am

Greater Carloso wrote:They would be swiftly told to turn around. If they refuse, the border police will use force to prevent their entry, including rubber bullets and tear gas if necessary.


That's idiotic.

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Heimatia
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Postby Heimatia » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:34 am

Outright condemnation from every level of society due to a carefully fostered sense of nationalistic xenophobia, followed by a 24/7 news coverage of the potential first step towards the destruction of our state, all whilst swatting away the international condemnations that would surely be swirling about because compassion is a value we reserve for ourselves, and our communities.

Then in two weeks when the international media gets distracted by the next big 'crime against humanity', we disperse the immigrants with non-lethal weaponry.
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Harthis
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Postby Harthis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:25 am

We would search the caravan for any intellectuals (which would be allowed entry), but deny the general mass of the caravan entry. If they continued to Harthis, we would respond with deadly force.

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Adytus
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Postby Adytus » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:50 am

For the cameras, Adytus welcomes them in. When the cameras go off, it turns out they were all actors in a government building. The real caravan was blown up by the air force before they ever left their home country.
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Free Tristania
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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:01 am

The Navy is always ready to deal with anyone looking for trouble and people trying to enter our country illegally are counted as such -- so they wouldn't get very far within our territorial waters. Now.. if they were to follow the proper channel and apply for an asylum status, then that would be another story. Those considered actual refugees would be put in refugee camps far away from the civilian population and treated in full accordance to all WA conventions (eventhough Free Tristania is not a member) and repatriated once the war is over. Economic migrants, on the other hand, would be deported immediately with an official warning in their pocket "if you, at a future date, would try to cross our borders illegally, you will be considered a pirate or terrorist and you will be treated accordingly".
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Postby Freed-Lymonia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:30 pm

We’d laugh as they get either blown up in the mine fields or shot by troops on the wall/in the crossing zone. Potentially it could be seen as an act of aggression if it was pushed by say the EU to move their Islamists. We have delt with similar stuff from gypsies constantly staying at our border.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:38 pm

Valgora wouldn't do anything.

The caravan won't move from the north or the east - that's just ocean. They won't really be able to come from the east - that's mountains. South is the only possible land route, which is incredibly dangerous even if they stuck to the roads.

Plus, they would probably just stay in one of the nations on our southern border. If they really want to immigrate to Valgora, we'd make a deal with one of our southern neighbors to being the vetting process there. If immigrants pass that, they can fly to Valgora and go through the process of becoming a citizen or a refugee.
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Postby Alexandregia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:47 pm

If they came to our African side, it is ok, although the authorities will carefully watch them. If they came to our European side, they are quickly deported and sent to the Azores, Canaries or Mauritania.
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Postby Archipelago Bay » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 pm

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