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The Great-German Empire
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Postby The Great-German Empire » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:04 am

First, stop them. If they don't have the necessary papers, bye-bye. If they do, let each one in individually, and let them decide among themselves if the caravan stays with those accepted or those rejected.

Any violence would be met with deadly force.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:18 am

Thermodolia is effectively a peninsula. The majority or Thermodolia is bordered by water or huge mountain ranges, there are very few good border crossings for caravans. Suitable border crossings are only located in the northeast, northwest, and the western border near the ocean.

Therefore the majority of Thermodolia is patrolled by the coast guard and the navy. With the Thermodolian Immigration and Border Enforcement Bureau and the National Police guarding the land borders. Parts of Thermodolia also borders two totalitarian nations and as such these borders are heavily guarded with a wall and army patrols.

Thermodolians are very xenophobic. And as such refugees are generally not welcome unless they are political refugees. The coast guard and the navy are under strict orders to halt any “boat people” from entering Thermodolia. So if a caravan of immigrants showed up at the border they would be turned away.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:05 am

It would be quite hard for a proper immigrant caravan, considering Exodia is an island archipelago. They’d be stopped by the Navy Territorial Defense, or if they got close enough without being caught, the Navy National Defense (our version of the Coast Guard). If they somehow made it on shore, then they’d be immediately greeted by military police and local militias.

Military personnel would request them proper identification, tow their vessels to port if needed, them escort them to an immigration office.
They would all be screened at the office through an international database, while under the eyes of the MPs- if at any point we believed or comfirmed that they may have come from a hostile nation or state that has frequent terrorism, crime, or the like, without a logical explanation or believable story, (defection, asylum, etc.) then they might be subject to deportation, or in rare cases, custody and interrogation by government officials (we’re a bit wary of spies, gang members, or terrorists). Undocumented persons who show repeated or serious violence towards anyone, from Exodian civilians, personnel, or their fellow migrants are also subject to immediate deportation.

All that pass this safety test are now legal Exodian residents and on the path to citizenship.

(If they don’t speak English, we have enough multilinguals and professional linguists in our immigration officials and military personnel that can take care of it, but a requirement for Exodian citizenship is knowing basic English.)

Conclusion is, we’re very welcome to immigrants, we just take border patrol rather seriously.
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Postby Mayakava » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:08 am

if it did happen it would be impossible an anti-immigration law is already installed and the origins are verified our blood is precious and can't be soiled
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:11 am

All (Well, most at least, but let's keep this simple) of our borders are arbitrary planes drawn in empty space, so such a caravan would probably not be noticed until they approached a Confederate world.

Upon discovery:

They would be informed of the proper way to enter the Confederacy, and allowed to enter after going through processing for immigration.

If they ignore our immigration policies and try to force their way in, they will be intercepted by our military, detained if not kicked out immediately, and likely deported following detainment.
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The Siberian Confederation
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Postby The Siberian Confederation » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:52 am

We've dealt with immigrants before; mostly from Canada and the United States (Alaska) after the largest known earthquake in recorded history. We'd most likely let them in, if they really needed help. Of course, they would have to be sent to an immigrations office. Otherwise, we would send them back. Kaliningrad would probably accept them, though.
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Boring People
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Postby Boring People » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:06 pm

Malagar wrote:A caravan of a few thousand immigrants are approaching your border with the intent to live in your nation, how does your nation react?


They would most likely be allowed in. Also, this:
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The Litan Imperium
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Postby The Litan Imperium » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:54 pm

They are stopped at the border by the Imperial soldiers and told if they wish to gain citizenship, they must serve in our foreign legion. Those who refuse are told to leave, refusal to comply would met with force. Deadly force if escalated i.e they started throwing rocks at imperial soldiers.
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Great Celestial China
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Postby Great Celestial China » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:56 pm

"Sorry, no more room. Please go somewhere else " -border guards
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The Northeastern Confederation
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Postby The Northeastern Confederation » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:59 pm

Stop them at the border, recruit those who want an oportunity as private militias to help keep the borders safe, and deport the undisirables. They will be a buffer right outside the border, similar to the roman foederati.

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The Litan Imperium
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Postby The Litan Imperium » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:23 pm

Great Celestial China wrote:"Sorry, no more room. Please go somewhere else " -border guards


lol no more room, you go somewhere else
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Great Humania
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Postby Great Humania » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:27 pm

more people are welcome, good for the Empires Benefits!
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Zirkun
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Founded: Apr 06, 2018
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Postby Zirkun » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:28 pm

1) Zirkun military and police would be called in to stop the immigrants
2) Background check station and immigrant processing would take place
3) Military camp created for the protection of the immigrants and also to process them

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Second Empire of America
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Postby Second Empire of America » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:06 pm

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We immediately celebrate, then welcome them and offer to transport their families here. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Sicaris
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Postby Sicaris » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:10 pm

Intern the immigrants and charge them with illegal border crossing. Conscript the fit people in the caravan into a penal battalion and indoctrinate, take the young and conscript them into military schools, and use the rest as test subjects for various chemical, biological, and unconventional weapons. Immigration is not tolerated by the High Council.
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North Curbstompia
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Postby North Curbstompia » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:30 pm

>Implying that many people would willingly want to come here if it wasn't an invasion.
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The simplest solution would be to give them a taste of the national sport. Nukeball!
Otherwise, send up some drones to videotape them and make a show out of it. I'd see how many survive trying to physically enter my country. Then how many would survive the wastelands with all the radiation, scattered landmines, feuding families, vicious wildlife, technobarbarian raiders, hostile and corrupted killmachines, and trigger-happy border patrol. Not to mention any of the locals who might just shoot them.
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The Spanish Nations
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Postby The Spanish Nations » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:54 pm

Stop them at the border, and make them return to their homelands.

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Diarcesia
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:56 pm

Is this arranged in advance? Sure... Otherwise, stop at the border.

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Berhakonia
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Postby Berhakonia » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:58 pm

Are they legal?

If yes, let them in

If no, conscript them into mandatory military service
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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:58 pm

Let them in, all of them (ofc we'll give them background checks and stuff).

We're accepting people, and will not deny the right of those who want to immigrate to come and live here.
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Japan and Pacific States
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Postby Japan and Pacific States » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:59 pm

The Empire of Japanese Pacific States would treat the "immigrants" as invaders. Mostly if they're a large caravan, though in that case they'd be stopped at the border and detained, then sent to a prison camp in China or Vietnam.
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The Verusian Union
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Postby The Verusian Union » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:01 pm

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Deseret and Zion
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Postby Deseret and Zion » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:57 pm

The Holy Republic of Deseret and Zion constitution enshrines the right of asylum, and potential immigrants can apply for asylum via their local Desereti consulates, or upon arrival in Deseret and Zion. However, applicants for asylum status must still undergo normal customs and border screening and apply for a visa before legally entering the Holy Republic (unless legal American, Californian, Canadian, or Mexican citizens holding valid national ID cards and at least two other forms of identification). Legal applicants who pass background and custom checks and are approved for a travel visa may enter the Holy Republic for a limited period of time (60-180 days, determined upon screening). Those who apply for asylum must meet certain requirements (subject of political prosecution in parent country, or evidence of economic or social hardship - violence, famine, etc. - in the parent country) will be granted asylum status, renewable every two years, and instructed to apply for applicable state housing programs and/or financial assistance. However, state assistance requires participation in non-profit English-language programs and/or other Desereti cultural programs.

In the event of a migrant caravan approaching Deseret and Zion, the first option would be to liaise with the Mexican, or other government, in order to direct them to established border crossings. Supplemental personnel, most likely from State Militias or, if necessary, Military reserve units, would be called up to intercept and coordinate any large group of known migrants, and to provide lodging, food and medical services for these migrants during the selection process. Migrants would be fed and cared as well as possible during for proper customs screening and visa approval. Those migrants who are granted asylum status would be allowed entry and directed to the appropriate resource programs. Non-asylum seekers would be granted a temporary travel visa, if they are not deemed a flight risk. Those who are not approved for a visa or awarded asylum status, will be denied entry and forced to return to either their country or origin or the country through which they entered the Holy Republic.

In addition to normal visa procedures and asylum requests, the Holy Republic offers a religious migrant visa to Mormon converts from other countries. In order to qualify for a religious migrant visa, the applicant must be referred by an established priest or missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints and screened by the staff of their local Desereti consulate/embassy. Religious migrant visa holders are required to join and establish a record of attendance with a recognized LDS church community within Deseret and Zion, and these visas are subject to a renewal every five years.
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The State of Communism
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Postby The State of Communism » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:47 pm

They would be turned away immediately. If they do not comply, the border police are allowed to use lethal force if necessary.
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Nui-ta
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Postby Nui-ta » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:00 am

....we're an island. How did you even?
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