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Vyzhva
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Founded: Aug 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Vyzhva » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:56 am

Yes.
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Carlist Spains
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Founded: Dec 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Carlist Spains » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 am

The nation of Spain is probably the biggest power that exists on earth, so no, we aren't usually considered one.

Our country is leader in sustainable development and economically it has one of the best living standard of the poorest. It is a combination of free market economy with social policies that are a cooperation between church and state.
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Siornor
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Founded: Dec 14, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Siornor » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:11 am

Our population is majority white and our culture is Westernized, Trump would love us.
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NOOB LAND
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Founded: Dec 15, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby NOOB LAND » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:40 am

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Adelaides Land
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Founded: Apr 25, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Adelaides Land » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:51 am

By the standards indicated, Adelaide's Land is likely a veritable shithole country.

A plurality of our population is made up of Black sub-saharan Africans, comprising about 38.46% of the total population. Additionally, another 26.52% of the population is of mixed Black sub-saharan African and White European ancestry.

Approximately 54.9% of the population have an Indo-European langauge as their household language (76.68% of Indo-European speakers are primarily Germanophone, 18.21% are primarily Anglophone, and 5.10% are primarily Goidelophone); the remaining 45.1% of the population speak primarily native African Niger-Congo languages.

Our current government leans towards a Social Democratic or "Third Way" political philosophy, and while we have our issues, our proverbial city on the mount is not the US, but Northern and Central European democracies.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:53 am

Nope.

Just really really weird.

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Savojarna
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Founded: Nov 11, 2016
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Postby Savojarna » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:52 am

Juvencus wrote:It depends if you ask a person from Savojarna or Orientis Juven or ask a normal person, outside these 2


Lovely :D your football team is a shithole for sure ;) (congratulations for the Cup of Harmony)
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Imperium Sidhicum
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Ex-Nation

Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:55 am

It really depends on who you ask.

An outsider would most likely consider the Imperium a shithole for its rabid xenophobia and bigotry towards everything and everyone not Sidh, along with their habit of answering minor slights with overwhelming force.

A human resident of the Imperium would most likely share the outsider's opinion, having to live in overcrowded unsanitary slums in a crime-ridden ghetto and endure all sorts of ridicule and humiliation from his Sidh masters.

Conversely, to a Sidh resident, there is no better, more beautiful and more glorious place in the entire Multiverse than the beloved Imperium of Sidhae - and the few who might think otherwise are smart enough to keep their filthy heresies to themselves.
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Ex-Nation

Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:58 am

Absolutely not!
Instead, we’re more inclined to call other countries shitholes. Would you like us to name a few?
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Vallermoore
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Postby Vallermoore » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:02 am

Not by most people, although it has it's ghettos and problems like anywhere else.

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The Islands of Versilia
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Islands of Versilia » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:15 am

No, it would not be considered a ‘sh*thole’. Versilia has a free democratic system, great economical and technological prowess and a stable country.
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The State of Communism
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Ex-Nation

Postby The State of Communism » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:20 am

I mean, we are communist.
But then again, we are very wealthy, have a great economy, great technology, and we are a pretty stable country.
So, all in all, no. We are not a shithole.
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TURTLESHROOM II
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Right-wing Utopia

Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:41 am

Absolutely. Your average First World foreigner has always looked down on TurtleShroom, although our tourists generally refuse to mistreat their hosts.
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Baalkistann
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Founded: Sep 06, 2016
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Postby Baalkistann » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:42 am

No. First world, Good Economy. Etc.
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Petroslovania
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Founded: Dec 09, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Petroslovania » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:55 pm

No, but we named ourselves Honorary S-Holes just to be against Trump.

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The USA of America
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Postby The USA of America » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:04 pm

Stormaen wrote:Stormaen has the same living standards as Canada. So probably a shithole according to Trump.


Stormaen wrote:Stormaen has the same living standards as Canada. So probably a shithole according to Trump.

Stormaen wrote:Stormaen has the same living standards as Canada. So probably a shithole according to Trump.


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I did not call any nations shithole nations, I was talking very tough about people from very poor and undemocratic nations, the charges of shithole nations comes from only one opposition Liberal Democrat at the meeting, that i as a gentleman will not reveal, their is no transcript, video or recording of me saying shithole nations, fake charges, fake news, i did however, back up Center Right Wing President elect of the National Rewnewal Party of Santiago de Chile's statement:

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Center Right Wing President elect of Santiago de Chile of the National Renewal Party, Sebastián Piñera, if I were visiting Raúl and the Democratic Communist Socialist Republic of La Habana Cuba, i would visit with the La Habana Cuban political dissident activists on the island, and support them until they achieve democracy in La Habana Cuba, everyone knows their is no political democracy and respect for human rights in La Habana Cuba, it is a dictatorship government like the government of Augusto Pinochet of Santiago de Chile, just like the dictatorship government of The Bolivarian Democratic Socialist Revolution of NS Venezuela under Nicolás Maduro.

By saying, Center Right Wing President elect Sebastián Piñera of Santiago de Chile is right, all these tin pot dictators of these tin pot nations are all alike.

By which i ment, Santiago de Chile, La Habana Cuba, NS Venezuela, and NS North Korea and other nations are Tin Pot Nations under those Tin Pot Dictators, Not those Nations are Tin Pot Nations, I am not a Racist, Fake Charges, Fake News.

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Mega Mexico
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Founded: Jul 13, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Mega Mexico » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:08 pm

"By some because of our lack of democracy and other "issues" *tries to remember if all documents reffering to the Purge have been destoyed* "but our strong economy, high rating on the human development index and investment in public services are more then enough reason to be considered "not a shithole"."
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Agonya
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Ex-Nation

Postby Agonya » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:14 pm

No, we're happy as we are.
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The Black Party
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Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The Black Party » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:17 pm

I don't know, you tell me, BN.
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Hamidiye
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hamidiye » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:31 pm

Propably... not that the Sultan does give a shit.
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The Land of the Ephyral
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:49 am

═───╡❖╞───────────────────────────═ EPHYRA ═───────────────────────────╡❖╞───═

═───╡❖╞──────────────═ Issue of Dispute ═──────────────╡❖╞───═
═───╡❖╞────────═ Is the Neo-Ephyral Empire a shithole? ═────────╡❖╞───═




An honest look at the Neo-Ephyral Empire reveals two answers. Firstly, one must consider the nature of the empire. Citizenship is a privilege, not a right. Perhaps just under half of all freeborn residents of the empire are what the empire calls 'provincials'. These are residents of the empire who were born in imperial territory either before or after it's conquest by imperial forces, but who do not hold citizenship. Citizenship is afforded on notions of loyalty and racial background. All ethnic Ephyral are 'first class citizens' unless revoked by law (only ever used when the sentence is crucifixion), and are born as such, though no citizen holds as much power or legal right as the freeholder, an adult male owning his own property. Children, landless men, and women are deemed socially inferior and legally inferior to this individual. Non-ethnic Ephyral can become citizens, and have their men be freeholders, but as second class citizens they are again inferior.

By region, one can assess how this works. The heartland of the empire, the home region of the Ephyral themselves, is highly prosperous, clean, and largely devoid of crime due to effective policing. This extends to the nearby satrapies of the Balkans, as well as into Anatolia and the Caucasus, where crime is of higher occurence but not enough to render travel unsafe. South of these areas though, ethnic Ephyral tend not to venture. The satrapies of the Levant and Africa are deemed perhaps the least desirable sites anywhere. Despite violent prosecution by the law enforcement, crime is still rife, and contest with Islamist extremists despite the near annihilation of Islam by the empire is common.

In short, the provincials are kept poor, and devoid of legal rights as non-citizens, and usually populate these Levant and African lands. The one exception is Kemet Superior, which is more prosperous, less criminal, and has the highest concentration of non-Ephyral citizens in the Middle East. Meanwhile citizens are given legal and social advantages within the more prosperous and safer lands they live in.

Thus to answer the question; yes, but only if you're looking at specific places. Anyone might look at the satrapies of Libya or Assyria and deem them wholly undesirable places to live, yet turn to the heartland of the empire and regard it as a land of opportunity, and still be within the same nation.

Ephyra is classist. It is hierarchical based upon loyalty, and one's racial and cultural background. It has no interest as a state in aiding all residents of its empire, but only favouring its citizens, primarily ethnic Ephyral. This results from it being a relatively diverse multi-ethnic empire, and thus needing to establish a form of both ethnic and cultural hegemony over non-Ephyral, as well as extending lesser citizenship rights to those loyal to the empire and of acceptable cultural and racial background.


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Dogek
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Founded: Feb 20, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Dogek » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:35 pm

It is often considered one due to its government instability and the communist terrorism and insurgency in the west. However the standard of living is high as the GDP/c is ~N$62,000 (Ð114,840) and the HDI is 0.84 (not NS Stats).
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The Transzambezia Free State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Transzambezia Free State » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:40 pm

All our neighbors are, but not us. We were more patient in setting up our system and maintain standards of civic literacy, and that has held off communist identitarians and other terrorists and made our country more prosperous, free, and despite what many passers-by might have assumed, more racially integrated than others around us.

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New Mushroom Kingdom
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Postby New Mushroom Kingdom » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:26 pm

Nope. At least not from Trump's perspective...
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VoVoDoCo
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Ex-Nation

Postby VoVoDoCo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:31 pm

We're in the top 5% for avoided BUT the top 10% for cheerful citizens.

This suggests that while most citizens enjoy life in Vovodoco, foreigners don't really understand the appeal.

So yeah, I guess we're considered a shit hole.
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