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Moravianda
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Founded: Jan 16, 2016
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Postby Moravianda » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:15 am

Kingdom of Bohemia/Moravianda does not recognise Catalan Independence in any shape or form.
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Great Nortend
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Postby Great Nortend » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:20 am

His Majesty considers Catalonia to be a part of the Realm and Dominion of the King of the Spain.
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San Luca
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Founded: Jan 02, 2017
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Postby San Luca » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:23 am

Without a doubt San Luca recognizes Catalan's independence from the imperialist Spaniards.
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Trive 38
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Founded: Apr 17, 2015
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Postby Trive 38 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:25 am

Though our government has some ideological disagreements with the Catalans, we recognise and support its independency.
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Garner Industrial State
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Postby Garner Industrial State » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:30 am

We recognized it since 2013's referendum!
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Eclius
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Founded: Oct 24, 2015
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Postby Eclius » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:41 am

We only recognize nations that are recognized by all political factions of the parallel dimension. If not, then a political entity will not be recognized by Eclius as a nation (so in this case, no, Catalan independence is not being recognized)
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Finswedeway
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Founded: Feb 10, 2016
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Postby Finswedeway » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:45 am

"rather than fighting for an independence movement against a significantly better armed force, the Catalan people should push for more recognition as their own people and should demand, rather than independence, more representation in the local sphere."
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:31 am

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The government of Miami Shores does not recognize Catalonia independence from España La Madre Patria, we consider the Catalans, Gallegos, Basques and all Spaniards as Spaniards.

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Postby Carlist Spains » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:55 am

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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:24 am

No, although it is not because we support Spanish sovereignty or what not: it is because in our universe, Catalonia is as fictitious as, say, dragons. If Catalonia were to exist in our universe, we'll only recognize it if a majority of the population turns out, and is recognized as a sovereign state by Spain.
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Socialist Union Of Deutschland
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Founded: Aug 05, 2017
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Postby Socialist Union Of Deutschland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:28 pm

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Longweather
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Founded: Nov 29, 2013
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Postby Longweather » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:00 pm

The Imperial Dominion of Longweather only recognizes independence of Catalonia in the universes in which it achieved sovereignty and doesn't commit various atrocities. In the universes in which Spain or another power have committed state-sponsored, terrorist acts we support their independence movement. All of this is in subtle and indirect means. The Imperial Dominion of Longweather mostly focuses on gathering information through our multiversal program. We strictly limit access to the Empire or use of our technologies and resources.
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Ygganda
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
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Postby Ygganda » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:23 pm

The Ygganda Government recognizes only a free and fair election by Catalonia voters on the matter. As the Spanish government has thus far refused one, our position is to push for such an election and we will recognize the results.
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The Scarlet Eagle
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Postby The Scarlet Eagle » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:28 pm

The Federal Military Empire of the Scarlet Eagle does not recognize in any way the independence of Catalonia. For us, this is considered a rebellious act against Spain authority, and this should be met with the hardest response from Madrid.
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Skarten
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Skarten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:30 pm

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United Christian
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Founded: Dec 13, 2013
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Postby United Christian » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:35 pm

United Christian officially recognized the Catalan Republic in early 2017. Stating that "The Catalans have a unique culture, language, and place in the world. That makes them a nation. Not a country, a nation. The fact that they may, or may not have a country is immaterial. Under Franco's dictatorship, the Catalan language was basically banned. Franco died just over 30 years ago and much bitterness still remains. Franco believed in one Spain, grand and free.........to speak Spanish. Today, children in Catalonia can only be educated in Spanish in state schools. "
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Claorica
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Postby Claorica » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:40 pm

Nope. If they had broken off and declared the Principality, we would've but considering they have not restored the original Monarchy, and instead are going about their rather leftist ways, we do not.
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Ivelboria
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Founded: Dec 13, 2015
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Postby Ivelboria » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:41 pm

Despite the situation going on within Spain, the Ivelborian Government doesn't recognise Catalan independence. Although, some communities do unofficially recognise the independence.
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Ammaroth
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Founded: Nov 06, 2017
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Postby Ammaroth » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:56 pm

The Imperial Government does not consider the issue of Catalonia to be of our business or of our concern, the affairs of other planets have no meaning to us. This being said, were Ammaroth to be located on Earth then it is doubtless that the Imperial Government would refuse to recognise Catalan independence as it currently stands, as there is no legal framework in place for its secession. Were a legal referendum held with the full permission and consent of the Spanish government, which returned a majority in favour of independence, then recognition of Catalonia as an independent state may be given. Until that happens however, the Imperial Government would not give recognition to what it considers an illegal and illegitimate secession movement.
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Gandoor
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Postby Gandoor » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:53 pm

At present, the government of the Democratic Republic of Gandoor does not recognize Catalan independence.
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Amygria
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Founded: Jan 14, 2018
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Postby Amygria » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:55 pm

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Artoonia
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Postby Artoonia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:55 pm

Would it piss off Spain?

Then, yes.

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Davinhia
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Founded: Nov 18, 2013
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Postby Davinhia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:15 pm

if the nation of davinhia were real;

we would recognize catalan independence as we are a nation who loves independence.
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Insaeldor
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Postby Insaeldor » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:05 am

Insaeldor does not recognize the Catalan state for two main reasons.

1: as an autonomous commune of Spain Catalonia is ultimate subordinate to the Spanish constitution and it has been ruled that a unilateral Declaration of Independence via referendum is not permitted under the Spanish constitution. We consider the referendum and subsequent Declaration of Independence illegal and so not recognize its legitimacy nor the legitimacy of the Catalan republic as declared by Catalan parliament by simple majority vote. We support the rule of law and this the Spanish constitutional system.

2: with a Voter Turnout of only 43% we have no reason to believe that this referendum is representative of the people at large in Catalonia. Also as stated earlier less then 60% of the Catalan parliament voted in favor of the Declaration of Independence. With such important legislation and ramification of said legislation we feel it needs a clear majority in order to properly represent the interest of the Catalan people in opposition to tyranny by majority.

That said Insaeldor will be open to the possibility of a Catalonian state independent of Spain. We applaud the Catalan people for their peaceful endevour for self-determination and with the recent local elections it's clear where the people stand on this issue. However we can not and will not support independence if it is not a mutual agreement between these two entities. We encourage dialogue on the matter and if that ultimately leads to an independent Catalonia then Insaeldor will happily recognize it.
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Manokan Republic
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Founded: Dec 15, 2017
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Postby Manokan Republic » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:07 am

Our country is torn between the issue and is not sure what choice to make. We want spain to remain whole, but recognize that the various abuses and oppression implemented by Spain is why Catalonia wants to break off in the first place, and recognize the right to self determination. It's a messy business.

We uh, are deliberately vague about the subject, and recognize the Catalonian people and their struggle, but not the state itself. Yet.
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