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Postby ImperialRussia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:31 pm

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Arkhane
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Postby Arkhane » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:34 pm

22% of our population are mechs or half-mechs.

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Postby ImperialRussia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:36 pm

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Postby Earth Orbit » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:42 pm

Who needs mechs when you can rain hell down on your enemies from orbit?

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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 pm

There are some around...
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Postby ImperialRussia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:04 pm

Now for the air, this is our concepts

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Postby ImperialRussia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:04 pm

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Postby ImperialRussia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:12 pm

Our air mechs will focus on evasive maneuvers in the air and space to getting shot so this will be our highest task and priority
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Postby Greater Cosmicium » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:21 pm

We don't, and we'll never use them. Firstly, power armor exists. It makes most of its "advantages" moot. Second, the square cube law and the power needed to power its legs, its only method of locomotion. Have fun when your mech's legs sink into muddy ground and then using up all the power to try to get out. At least with super-heavy tanks you can actually spread out all that weight over a bigger area. This was well known even before Cosmicium was colonized!!! SINCE THE 1800S!!!!!
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Postby Zhouran » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:10 am

Nah. The usage of those bipedal manned machines for frontline shock-combat warfare is not only a waste of money and a waste of manpower but battle-tested tanks can simply perform what mechs were supposed to do but better.

Main battle tanks have already been tested time and time again when it comes to full-frontal armed combat, and while the nature of tank-fighting and usage of tanks in the battlefield has seen some changes since the 21st century at the same time MBTs remain unchallenged to mechs. The National Institute of Military Science has done some research of the usage of mechs for modern warfare, and the conclusion is that mechs are horrendous replacements to tanks and that mechs would not survive in a full-frontal firefight against modern tanks, including highly-sophisticated Zhouranese MBTs such as the Type 04-08 MBT with its state-of-the-art electronics and protection, and the Type 07 advanced MBT with its next-generation armor and powerful 140mm ETC gun. The most obvious issue as normal people can point out is their legs since an MBT could simply shoot at the legs of a mech, but another issue that normal people are not aware is that for a mech to have an effective pair of legs that could combat ground clearance issues without sinking into mud the legs must contain numerous complex machinery including joints and hydraulics in order to move as well as simply be wide and stocky just for the mech to have at least a decent ground clearance. As a result, mechs are overly-complex and essentially over-engineered, making them really expensive especially for their practicality and usefulness in armored warfare, in comparison MBTs are way more simple and cheaper, not to mention that MBTs don't have glaring weaknesses as that of a mech. Another issue for mechs is that not only do they have legs but their silhouette profile would me much larger and taller than that of a tank's, thus making them easier targets from afar, not just from tanks but even from anti-tank infantry.

While mechs are not the replacement for tanks, one things for sure is that mechs do have a future in infantry-support and heavy-duty logistics. The Zhouranese People's Army has heavy-duty logistics mechs entering service however they don't have any interests in infantry-support mechs since the ZPA already has armored exoskeleton suits such as the Type 1996 Tactical Infantry Armored Suit (gen. 1; un-powered) for greater infantry protection, the Type 2012 Tactical Infantry Armored Suit (gen. 2; powered-exoskeleton) for both enhanced protection and physical assistance in speed and strength, and the elusive Type 1000 Tactical Combat Mechanical Armored Suit (hyper-sophisticated powered-exoskeleton known for its usage of metamaterial nanofiber mechanical-muscle and providing the wearer with biological enhancements for superhuman feats), plus not to mention they also operate battle walkers which are comparable to infantry-support mechs but without the hassle of having to put a man inside a tin-can.

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Postby Sultanate of Lingga » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:53 pm

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Postby Voxija » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:10 pm

We wish, man. But logistically it's not possible and it would be kind of ridiculous.
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Postby Blodrike » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:34 pm

No, it doesn't even use electricity.
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Postby Boscaza » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:26 pm

Boscaza is currently using the SER-551, or Shielded Encirclement Robot, which is essentially a metal
ball with a set of grinders going through the center of it, mounted on a set of tentacle-like arms.
Some of it's arms are used for movement, while others have armor plates which are able to move around to barricade areas.
SERs are mostly used in enclosed spaces such as hallways and bunkers, where they can completely
block off a path and move quickly through the area, grinding up and spitting out enemy soldiers as they go.

The SER-551 is the only mech currently in military service in Boscaza.
Pictures and/or video footage of these units have yet to be acquired, as the engineers that worked on the project have been executed for suspected eldritch magic.
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Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:11 pm

In the Joyean military 4 types of mechs currently in service.
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The atlas system which went into service in 2012 and is still the most used mech in the Joyean military
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The Q-91 is another type of mech in service it carries a Bofers gun and a tri barrel 30mm cannon
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LE-01 is the third mech in service with the joyean military it carries an 8 barrel 40mm grenade launcher
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The UM01 or utility mech 01 is a utility mech in service with the Joyean Army, navy and in very few numbers the air force and strategic missile command
We also have a few designs in testing.
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The MF 109 is an ultra-heavy combat mech with a large plasma cannon and 30mm machine gun it is in the first phases of testing.
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The LG09 is another ultra-heavy combat mech it has 2 20mm miniguns, 8 JGh-47 MANPADS, 2 rocket pds with 6 rockets each, and 2 missile lauchers with 6 missiles each. It is in it's last phases of testing.
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New Communist Ontario
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Postby New Communist Ontario » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 am

We are currently experimenting with Mechs, but currently none have been released onto the field

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Postby Ippolyta the Manreaper » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:39 pm

While Ippo claims that it absolutely cannot be denied that mecha are supremely cool (and is willing to fight anyone who says otherwise), even she recognises the rather limited battlefield value they have - at least compared to tracked, wheeled and hovering war machines. For this reason, she decreed that no mecha of any type are to be manufactured as standard military issue. However, individual warlords under her command are free to build, purchase and use them however they please, with any responsibility for whatever fate that should befall them being theirs and theirs alone.

Power armour is a wholly different affair, and models of varying shapes and sizes are all used and built on a regular basis.
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Postby Synne Industries » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm

Exoskeletons and such exist within both Synnia and the RSI but not proper mech-mechs. The RSI doesn't really have any major dedicated ground force and even then prefers to use less vulnerable and more versatile MBTs. You can get a properly functioning "mech" with the right military string-pulling and some people do but it's mostly just aesthetic, involves some expensive extraspace shenanigans, and doesn't have any practical military application.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:37 pm

We Decepticons ARE the war robots. We have no use for mechs, which are cheap, non-transforming copies of our kind that are driven by mere humans. All it takes to kill the human inside of one of those is for one of our troops to push it over. The human inside then gets smashed into a pulp, and that's that for their silly mech.

We, on the other hand, have no biological parts inside and are engineered to handle blows and ordnance from other war robots of our kind. We also are not remote controlled, so comms interference doesn't stop us. Therefore, we aren't bothered if we get pushed down or similarly messed with. We'll just get back up and keep on fighting, only we'll be irritated and even more hostile than before.
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Postby Sovietstanica » Sat May 16, 2020 11:27 pm

We use mechs and their classifications align with tanks with an additional separate classifications. The term 'mech' refers to exclusively land-based walkers. The four main types of Mechs are:

1.) Light Mechs (LMs)
2.) Medium Mechs (MMs)
3.) Heavy Mechs (HMs)
4.) Main Battle Mechs (MBMs)
5.) Mech Destroyers (MEDEs)

Other types of Mechs are:
COMBAT:
Mech-Propelled Vehicles (Mech-Propelled Gun, M-P Artillery, M-P Mortar, M-P AA Battery, M-P Multiple Rocket Launcher, etc.), Mechette (Lighter version of Light Mechs), Cruiser Mech, etc.

NON-COMBAT:
Mech Ambulance, Cargomech, Riot Mech, Replenishment Mech, Exploration Mech, etc.

As with the case with other combat vehicles, Infantry can usually work side-by-side with Mechs. Whilst Motorized Infantry are deployed with motorized but lightly armoured vehicles and Mechanized Infantry are deployed with armoured vehicles, a proper type of infantry deployed using or with mechs are called Mounted Infantry.
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Postby Monsone » Sat May 16, 2020 11:41 pm

NO

Why not? Because they've been experimented with, and have been found to be utterly useless. Now the primary issue with a mech is that once you blow a leg off, it's become useless. And while if you blow a tracked vehicles track off, it does become immobile, but it's turret and weapons still work. Another main issue is that the transmissions and drive trains of mechs had worse service lives than that of Panther tank's transmisions. The stresses of a mech's movement could easily break even gearboxes designed for 70 ton tanks. Not to mention that the ground pressure of a mech is worse than that of an MBT because the weight is not spread so effectively (remember, it only takes about 400lbs to set of an anti-tank mine, so ground pressure is important).

Third is that mechs require very specific fuel (uranium rods) which also happen to be radioactive and not easy to use in a combat scenario. Compare this to synthetic diesel fuel which is non-flammable, easy to use in reffueling, and not in short supply. Fourth is the main kicker. Mechs can cary that many weapons because they would overstress the already stressed drive train. So fitting any potent weapons on a mech is simply not possible. Fifth is the point that mechs lack serious armor compared to an MBT. So insurgents with their outdated weapons could relatively easily take out a mech. And if you think adding armor is the solution, then read the afromentioned point about mobility issues.

And lastly comes logistics. Mechs are hard to transport, and you can't just transport them under their own power either. And making a mech fly is feasible, but impractical in the sense that you've added more weight to an already heavy and unreliable vehicle. Mechs where experimented with from 1970 to 2018, and found to be unreliable, vulnerable, weak, underpowered, and unfit for a modern battlefield. So the money for mechs was spent on useful vehicles, like tanks, planes, etc.

Because of all the above reasons, the Monsonian Ministry of Defence decided that tracked and wheeled vehicles where most effective in combat scenarios. The clossest thing to a mech in service would be an exoskeleton, which has proved quite useful and promissing in trials and in service.

My argument? As a MT/PMT nation, mechs are technologically fesable, but horridly impractical. They're much better for sh*ts and giggles than actual combat. The closest you could get to a "mech" could be an armored exoskelleton with a 20mm autocannon as a main weapon, but it still has thin armor, is relativelly light, an uses an conventional engine, so it solves many of the afromentioned issues. And did I metion it's also designed not to be used in scenarios where IEDs or land mines are common? Y
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Postby Biotopia » Sun May 17, 2020 9:11 am

Mechs are over-engineered, over-priced and over-hyped options to problems with much simpler, cheaper and effective answers.
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Postby Galmarch » Mon May 18, 2020 10:29 pm

No, we are strictly a MT nation.
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Yavakhstan
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Postby Yavakhstan » Mon May 18, 2020 10:37 pm

Mechs are not used in Yavakhstan, we are a MT nation and mechs only exist in entertainment medias.

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Dallona
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Postby Dallona » Wed May 20, 2020 12:14 am

Yes, mechanical exosuits of various sizes & designs are used in industries such as construction

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