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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:58 pm
by North Arkana
Kassaran wrote:
North Arkana wrote:I went through BCT with the M4 the whole time, so my experience was decidedly different from yours. I'm out now though, got that sweet sweet DD-214.

Hail freedom! Thanks for paving the way, but yeah, I got a broke-ass company that was using the last M16A2's still at Jackson.

Taihei Tengoku wrote:are you like michael jordan tall or what

6'3" to everyone else, but apparently in the Army I'm 6'1" and two inches.

My BCT SGM wouldn't stop bothering me at the heavy weapons range after I kept getting hits with the practice AT4. It was amusing at first, then it got annoying, cus he kept calling me up to do it. Again. And again. And again.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:02 pm
by Puzikas
As a 1.88 meter l o n g m a n who was in a 1.7 meter man's ocean-going army
I feel it

Idk to what degree you are allowed things on your M4s, if there's like an official list or smthng, but I had stuck a GP-25 pad on my AK-74M for the extra LoP, which helped a bit. I know theres plenty of aftermarket butt pad spacers for longman like you and I.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:09 pm
by Taihei Tengoku
I am 5' 8" and I do not extend the stock all the way out

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:31 pm
by Rhodesialund
Taihei Tengoku wrote:I am 5' 8" and I do not extend the stock all the way out


What notch do you keep yours at? I usually keep mine at 4/5 depending on what I wear. 3 if I'm wearing gear.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:53 pm
by Taihei Tengoku
In my extensive experience of "indoor marksmanship training" and "10 days on PTAD" I keep it at the one before full extension. Presumably I will do the same if/when I am issued an M4 for real. I did find the M16A4 rather front-heavy though.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:06 pm
by North Arkana
I just fully extend it and learned how to deal with that, cus I was with an armored cav unit, stuck in the back of a 1068, so if you had to hold your weapon with you, you'd most likely have it fully collapsed, until you go out, and then it's just a matter of pulling it til it stops.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:08 pm
by Gallia-
Real Men(TM) just use 100 year old bolt actions.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:45 pm
by Allanea
Relevant to this thread, a guide onhow to write about injuries. Also we can now badger Puzikas less I guess!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:32 am
by Lamoni
Allanea wrote:Relevant to this thread, a guide onhow to write about injuries. Also we can now badger Puzikas less I guess!


I badger Greater Themis about that. :lol:

I know quite a few people who could use this, as well.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:51 am
by Puzikas
Allanea wrote:Relevant to this thread, a guide onhow to write about injuries. Also we can now badger Puzikas less I guess!


I will buy this for all of you if I can stop being asked questions that anyone who took Human Bio 101 can answer

Being a doctor involves public education yes but not things like explaining how a stab would from a spear looks

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:56 am
by Purpelia
Allanea wrote:Relevant to this thread, a guide onhow to write about injuries. Also we can now badger Puzikas less I guess!

It's like 10 USD though. Do these people think we are made of money?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:23 am
by Spirit of Hope
TBS: "Write a five paragraph order detailing operations against a Russian unit around 1995."
Me: Immediately comes on here to look up composition of the mentioned forces.

Sorry Puz, looks like I'm supposed to try and kill you.

Taihei Tengoku wrote:I am 5' 8" and I do not extend the stock all the way out

And I'm 6' 5" and want more extension on the darn thing. Don't think they will let us add anything here though.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:04 am
by Rhodesialund
Taihei Tengoku wrote:In my extensive experience of "indoor marksmanship training" and "10 days on PTAD" I keep it at the one before full extension. Presumably I will do the same if/when I am issued an M4 for real. I did find the M16A4 rather front-heavy though.


I usually add a foregrip (or forepenis if you are a true ammosexual) on front-heavy rifles like the A4 or piston-operated ARs. It really does help fool your mind into thinking it feels lighter.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:49 am
by Cosparia
Lambast me for bringing up airsoft in a military realism thread, but most of the time I keep the stock on my M4 replica at about the third or fourth adjustment slot. I'm about 6'1-6'2, and this feels pretty comfortable for me with the way I usually stand and engage players. Typically I put my torso as perpendicular to the opposite team as is feasible, my reasoning that if and when I enlist* and start wearing real body armor with real SAPI plates, I'd want as much of that plate facing the enemy as I can get, to maximize coverage--a front plate isn't going to help me if I get shot standing sideways.

That being said, my experience with "firefights" is purely limited to the airsoft field, where players usually don't have motorized transport or air support, and our guns and gear are much lighter than the real-world equivalents; while the replicas are 1:1 size-wise, my fake!M4 only weighs 5-and-a-halfish pounds bare (which goes up to about 7 lbs with a rail-mounted M203 replica), and my vest has never weighed more than 20 pounds. Quite a far cry from the 60+ pounds of a real combat load.


*I have some serious weight to lose before that happens though; I've got about a hundred extra pounds that shouldn't be there

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:59 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Puzikas wrote:As a 1.88 meter l o n g m a n who was in a 1.7 meter man's ocean-going army
I feel it

Wow Puz qualifies for the Old Royal Prussian 6th Infantry Regiment. <.< >.>

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:01 am
by Kassaran
Cosparia wrote:Lambast me for bringing up airsoft in a military realism thread, but most of the time I keep the stock on my M4 replica at about the third or fourth adjustment slot. I'm about 6'1-6'2, and this feels pretty comfortable for me with the way I usually stand and engage players. Typically I put my torso as perpendicular to the opposite team as is feasible, my reasoning that if and when I enlist* and start wearing real body armor with real SAPI plates, I'd want as much of that plate facing the enemy as I can get, to maximize coverage--a front plate isn't going to help me if I get shot standing sideways.

That being said, my experience with "firefights" is purely limited to the airsoft field, where players usually don't have motorized transport or air support, and our guns and gear are much lighter than the real-world equivalents; while the replicas are 1:1 size-wise, my fake!M4 only weighs 5-and-a-halfish pounds bare (which goes up to about 7 lbs with a rail-mounted M203 replica), and my vest has never weighed more than 20 pounds. Quite a far cry from the 60+ pounds of a real combat load.


*I have some serious weight to lose before that happens though; I've got about a hundred extra pounds that shouldn't be there


No lambasting, you're correct in the way you train to shoot. Your DS will tell you to do the same if they have Infantry training and are any good. Your suspicions are also correct, it's a lot harder to put the M4 on target if you're a big person and that's actually probably because of the lack of weight. I'm used to firing a longer barreled, heavier weapon, the M16. I'm also used to being able to keep my face somewhere near the very end of the buttstock. I keep my sight picture as small as possible to increase accuracy of the shots I take. There's a problem there though: M16 is long, but M4 is not. It's shorter in the stock and it's shorter in the handrails, so I can't get a good hold on it. It just feels too small in my hands and I end up having to reset myself more often than not. It also jumps like a sunnuva bitch too compared to the heavier M16, recoil adapter or not.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:01 am
by Gallia-
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Puzikas wrote:As a 1.88 meter l o n g m a n who was in a 1.7 meter man's ocean-going army
I feel it

Wow Puz qualifies for the Old Royal Prussian 6th Infantry Regiment. <.< >.>


Ostles qualifies for Kattsunism? o:

We are the same height so we can share cute outfitsu. O:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:42 am
by Puzikas
Spirit of Hope wrote:TBS: "Write a five paragraph order detailing operations against a Russian unit around 1995."
Me: Immediately comes on here to look up composition of the mentioned forces.

Sorry Puz, looks like I'm supposed to try and kill you.

Taihei Tengoku wrote:I am 5' 8" and I do not extend the stock all the way out

And I'm 6' 5" and want more extension on the darn thing. Don't think they will let us add anything here though.


Good luck, they tried for 18 years!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm
by Dostanuot Loj
I've got 16 books piled on my desk right now from guys like Fuller, Liddell-Hart, Guderian, Rommel, Citino, Griepenkerl, and Simpkin, to name a few.

Guess what I'm doing this winter.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:18 pm
by Purpelia
Dostanuot Loj wrote:I've got 16 books piled on my desk right now from guys like Fuller, Liddell-Hart, Guderian, Rommel, Citino, Griepenkerl, and Simpkin, to name a few.

Guess what I'm doing this winter.

Spending time doing work, shopping, eating and doing all the other stuff you normally do only annoyed because you have these books you'd rather be reading.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:50 pm
by Spirit of Hope
Puzikas wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:TBS: "Write a five paragraph order detailing operations against a Russian unit around 1995."
Me: Immediately comes on here to look up composition of the mentioned forces.

Sorry Puz, looks like I'm supposed to try and kill you.


And I'm 6' 5" and want more extension on the darn thing. Don't think they will let us add anything here though.


Good luck, they tried for 18 years!

Well if some of my fellow classmates had been in charge of the attack you would have remained very safe.
"We will wait for the enemy to set up and attack the objective, then X platoon will attack their artillery from behind and capture it for our use."
"How do we know where the artillery will be set up? Also no one in X platoon knows anything about using 122mm guns."
"They'll figure it out."

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:09 pm
by North Arkana
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
Good luck, they tried for 18 years!

Well if some of my fellow classmates had been in charge of the attack you would have remained very safe.
"We will wait for the enemy to set up and attack the objective, then X platoon will attack their artillery from behind and capture it for our use."
"How do we know where the artillery will be set up? Also no one in X platoon knows anything about using 122mm guns."
"They'll figure it out."

S2: "Dear god no."

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:44 pm
by Dostanuot Loj
Purpelia wrote:
Dostanuot Loj wrote:I've got 16 books piled on my desk right now from guys like Fuller, Liddell-Hart, Guderian, Rommel, Citino, Griepenkerl, and Simpkin, to name a few.

Guess what I'm doing this winter.

Spending time doing work, shopping, eating and doing all the other stuff you normally do only annoyed because you have these books you'd rather be reading.


Exactly.
And also writing a paper about British theories of mechanization and how much the Germans actually applied them.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:46 pm
by Puzikas
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
Good luck, they tried for 18 years!

Well if some of my fellow classmates had been in charge of the attack you would have remained very safe.
"We will wait for the enemy to set up and attack the objective, then X platoon will attack their artillery from behind and capture it for our use."
"How do we know where the artillery will be set up? Also no one in X platoon knows anything about using 122mm guns."
"They'll figure it out."


Lel

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:58 am
by Allanea