NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Vol. 11.0

[Gallia-]

There was a PITMAN related news story in some newspaper in the '80's that had a funny cartoon of a GI getting hit by a particle beam.

The actual PITMAN suit may have influenced the Doom guys or though. Or maybe the artist who did Doom did PITMAN art IDK. The helmet is basically identical on the cover art and in Jeff Moore's paper.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_M ... harifistan) is this realistic?

[Spirit of Hope]

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_Military_Intelligence_(Sharifistan) is this realistic?

It doesn't really tell us anything to judge as realistic or not.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_Military_Intelligence_(Sharifistan) is this realistic?

It doesn't really tell us anything to judge as realistic or not.

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_M ... harifistan)

[Spirit of Hope]

It doesn't really tell us anything to judge as realistic or not.

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_M ... harifistan)

I'm not seeing any new information. You basically just said "we have an intelligence agency, everything about it is secret." Nothing to really judge there.

[Crookfur]

It doesn't really tell us anything to judge as realistic or not.

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_M ... harifistan)

Try fixing the link to actually include the closing bracket.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Directorate_of_M ... harifistan)

Try fixing the link to actually include the closing bracket.

It won't let me

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Are deserters inherently untrustworthy?
If you recruit deserters from your enemy do they automatically become untrustworthy to you?

[Immoren]

Uddas coastal brigade.
Uddas coastal brigade is infantry brigade Western Naval District.
Uddas coastal brigade consists of brigade HQ, supply&service battalion, special coastal battalion, coastal recon battalion, regimental hospital, regimental vehicle depot, regimental maintenance centre and regimental material center.
Supply&service battalion
Supply&service battalion consists of 1st boat company, 2nd boat company, transportation company&reserve NCO school, combat service support company and military police company.
Both 1st and 2nd boat companies are responsible for acting as taxi service for brigade. Difference is that 2nd company is conscript training company while 1st company is meant to be manned by contractual military personel.
Transportation company&reserve NCO school trains battalion's truck platoons. It also trains battalion's reserve NCOs, except for military police company who get their training in more centralized location.
Combat service support company trains twice a year medical platoon, maintenance platoon, supply platoon and service platoon.
Military police company consists of two detachments. One is trained to be gate guard unit for the brigade and other trains for more dynamic military policing operations.
Special coastal battalion
Special coastal battalion consists of Special operations detachment A, Special Operations Detachment B, 1st diver company and 2nd diver company.
Special operations detachment A is part of active naval SOF.
Special Operations Detachment B is training company for naval SOF. People in Detachment B are in for year long SOF Basic course after which they either get enlisted in Special operations detachment A or they're transferred into Naval SOF reserve.
1st and 2nd diver companies on other hand train conscripts. Both companies take conscripts once a year in january and they all serve 365 days and get either reserve NCO or reserve officer qualification, depending on their role. 1st diver company trains reconnaissance divers while 2nd company trains EOD divers.
Coastal recon battalion
Coastal recon battalion consists of 1st, 2nd and 3rd coastal recon companies.
1st recon company trains elements for recon battalions' HQ companies.
2nd recon company trains actual recon companies.
3rd recon company is reserve NCO school, but it also trains reconnaissance forward observer platoons.

[Republic of Penguinian Astronautia]

How would navies meant to operate in the Great Lakes be equipped and organized?

[The Manticoran Empire]

How would navies meant to operate in the Great Lakes be equipped and organized?

Mostly light vessels. Its bounded by land on all sides so boats aren't really necessary other than to police the limited merchant traffic.

[Spirit of Hope]

How would navies meant to operate in the Great Lakes be equipped and organized?

How hostile are you with the other nations on the great lakes, and what is the technology level you are looking at? Are you planning to be aggressive or staying defensive?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

How do you check insurgent your country trains don't turn against you?
I'm sure vetting them for political ideology etc. helps but what else?

[Purpelia]

How do you check insurgent your country trains don't turn against you?
I'm sure vetting them for political ideology etc. helps but what else?

You don't. They will. Just make sure to have their organization well infiltrated and their names listed so that you can murder them all when they are no longer useful.

[Sevvania]

Are deserters inherently untrustworthy?
If you recruit deserters from your enemy do they automatically become untrustworthy to you?

Are you thinking of a deserter or a defector?

A defector switches sides. A deserter just leaves, presumably because he's not super into the idea of continued fighting.

[Kassaran]

Aight, so I'm in a region with a puppet that has airships still a thing. They have massive floating battleships with 18-inch guns that apparently can reach out 30+ miles. How do I take it down from a relative position of safety? The year is 1945 and the tech is wonky in order to enable these sort of shenanigans, nevermind the person leading the trend is a big battleship-airship fanaticist.

[Almadaria]

Aight, so I'm in a region with a puppet that has airships still a thing. They have massive floating battleships with 18-inch guns that apparently can reach out 30+ miles. How do I take it down from a relative position of safety? The year is 1945 and the tech is wonky in order to enable these sort of shenanigans, nevermind the person leading the trend is a big battleship-airship fanaticist.

Concealed 40mm Bofors positions (assuming it's in held territory against an encroaching balloon of idiots)

[Gallia-]

Aight, so I'm in a region with a puppet that has airships still a thing. They have massive floating battleships with 18-inch guns that apparently can reach out 30+ miles. How do I take it down from a relative position of safety? The year is 1945 and the tech is wonky in order to enable these sort of shenanigans, nevermind the person leading the trend is a big battleship-airship fanaticist.

Use a plane.

[Kassaran]

Yep, figured all this as much. It's probably going to cost too much to keep a fleet of battleships, both flying and sailing, in combat anyways.

[Gallia-]

An airship is a big airplane. Anything an airship has a plane can use all the same.

If airships can mount 18" guns then a plane can probably carry a Karl Gerat or Schwerer Gustav or something.

[Purpelia]

Aight, so I'm in a region with a puppet that has airships still a thing. They have massive floating battleships with 18-inch guns that apparently can reach out 30+ miles. How do I take it down from a relative position of safety? The year is 1945 and the tech is wonky in order to enable these sort of shenanigans, nevermind the person leading the trend is a big battleship-airship fanaticist.

Turn your aircraft into flying torpedo boats firing rocket propelled winged torpedoes using what ever tech these things used to fly only smaller and with a bomb on top. Attack from above.

What the others suggest might be more practical but this is way more cool.

[Kassaran]

I'm liking the idea of swarms of aircraft diving down from the sky, unleashing a swarm of rockets and missiles across the top of one of these, and then disappearing again. They think they can keep it low to avoid radar tracking too, since apparently someone already found out how to use radar-guided weapons, but the range on those is 28 miles. I'm also thinking that they might not understand that a maximum range of 30 miles doesn't actually keep the enemy at 30 miles, nor does it mean it's ever really going to be used at those ranges, especially if you can't establish aerial superiority, which is dubious if you spend so much money on giant floating airships that take one or two sizable guided missiles to bring down. I'll probably also develop !notPhoenix because 120 miles will make floating airships a thing of the past in large enough swarms anyways.

[Purpelia]

I'm liking the idea of swarms of aircraft diving down from the sky, unleashing a swarm of rockets and missiles across the top of one of these, and then disappearing again. They think they can keep it low to avoid radar tracking too, since apparently someone already found out how to use radar-guided weapons, but the range on those is 28 miles. I'm also thinking that they might not understand that a maximum range of 30 miles doesn't actually keep the enemy at 30 miles, nor does it mean it's ever really going to be used at those ranges, especially if you can't establish aerial superiority, which is dubious if you spend so much money on giant floating airships that take one or two sizable guided missiles to bring down. I'll probably also develop !notPhoenix because 120 miles will make floating airships a thing of the past in large enough swarms anyways.

If you have radar guidance that can track aircraft from 20+ miles away AND guide in guns from that range you have radar that can track a giant flying battleship from that range several times over and guide in a missile.
Remember, these things are for all intents and purposes giant, slow aircraft. Every strength they have an aircraft also has (except size of guns and armor), and every weakness an aircraft has these have 100 times over.

This all being said I'd honestly just go with it. Like, flying battleships are cool. Don't try and undo them. Make a bloody flying missile cruiser with side mounted fighter jets that fire more missiles and a giant radar on top for tracking these things over the horizon.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Are deserters inherently untrustworthy?
If you recruit deserters from your enemy do they automatically become untrustworthy to you?

Are you thinking of a deserter or a defector?

A defector switches sides. A deserter just leaves, presumably because he's not super into the idea of continued fighting.

A defector I mean

[Purpelia]

Are you thinking of a deserter or a defector?

A defector switches sides. A deserter just leaves, presumably because he's not super into the idea of continued fighting.

A defector I mean

That depends on an infinite number of factors which can all be summed up with "and why did he defect in the first place?" Answer that question and you have answered your own.