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Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:35 am
by Immoren
New Vihenia wrote:Immoren wrote:Put them all in turret. *nods*
Hellooooo
Hot.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:35 am
by The New California Republic
Makes me wonder if they burned out the transmission on some of those engineering vehicles.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:39 am
by Questarian New Yorkshire
the vikings walked their boats across russia by using fermented fish oil to lubricate logs
I think a couple of prime movers can tow a submarine if there's enough lube
just like how even shkvals can fit inside gallas torpedo tube if there's enough lubricant
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:48 am
by Gallia-
here i found a highly relevant quote
"gae" - ostmark
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:50 am
by The New California Republic
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:51 am
by Questarian New Yorkshire
The New California Republic wrote:In this case, "not".
dont kinkshame
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:15 am
by Hrstrovokia
Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:32 am
by The New California Republic
Hrstrovokia wrote:Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.
Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:42 am
by Dayganistan
Hrstrovokia wrote:Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.
Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:44 am
by Hrstrovokia
Dayganistan wrote:Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.
The New California Republic wrote:Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.
I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:51 am
by The New California Republic
Hrstrovokia wrote:Dayganistan wrote:Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.
The New California Republic wrote:Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.
I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.
I don't think they'd ever export the non-monkey model version, except when it is obsolete.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:58 am
by Ideal Britain
Has obstruction of UN peacekeepers or similar (such as threatening or attacking them) ever been a casus belli?
What about attacking a state where your nation has put peacekeepers?
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:01 am
by The New California Republic
Ideal Britain wrote:Has obstruction of UN peacekeepers or similar (such as threatening or attacking them) ever been a casus belli?
Not to my knowledge no.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:10 am
by New Vihenia
Hrstrovokia wrote:I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.
Think about international agreement such as MTCR which expressively forbid anything having range beyond 300 km and payload in excess or equivalent to 500 Kg. This agreement although only voluntary, serves as perhaps the best ever example treaty where Russia comply down to the letter.
Before it came into effect however.. They'll sell you anything. e.g latest Scud variant the R-17OTV with DSMAC guidance and range of some 700 Km, R-400 Oka which carries over 700 Kg. Which Bulgaria refused to destroy until 1992 afaik. After MTCR comes into effect somewhere in perhaps 1987, they only sells stuff having range of 300km and 500 Kg of warhead.
ATGM's however is basically the best you can have. If there is any downgrades it would be related to some countermeasure related modes, not something that greatly impedes your operation but more like you have to procure more ATGM's for mission success.
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Tue May 19, 2020 10:16 am
by Dayganistan
Hrstrovokia wrote:Dayganistan wrote:Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.
The New California Republic wrote:Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.
I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.
That's relevant for the Iskander yes, but the export version of the Kornet isn't substantially different from the one used by the Russian military as far as I'm aware. Even if they are different, the export version of the Kornet has proven more than capable of dealing with modern MBTs and I'm sure the export version of the Kornet-M would fare even better.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 11:14 am
by Axis Nova
The Russians will generally sell anything they produce to anyone with the cash. They pretty much have to since the Russian military is in such rotten shape that they can't afford to equip their own troops with much of the newest stuff.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 12:08 pm
by Immoren
I don't know how much this is true or patting on back of Finnish listeners.
rough translation of an excerpt from podcast on Finnish art of war wrote:...We have to take in account that reserve army is not professional army. But this can also benefit us greatly. This is because professional armies can be too eager to wait for orders and this goes against spirit of mission-type tactics/command...
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 12:16 pm
by Taihei Tengoku
Immoren wrote:I don't know how much this is true or patting on back of Finnish listeners.
rough translation of an excerpt from podcast on Finnish art of war wrote:...We have to take in account that reserve army is not professional army. But this can also benefit us greatly. This is because professional armies can be too eager to wait for orders and this goes against spirit of mission-type tactics/command...
The latter. Novices are generally slower and lower-performing than experts, with the exception of "trick questions" that subvert the expert's norms.
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 12:43 pm
by Theodosiya
I've been thinking about going back to Regimental formation. Like :
Mechanized Infantry Division
1x HQ Company
3x Infantry Regiment of
3x Battalion
1x Tank Regiment of
3x Battalion
1x Field Artillery Regiment of
3x Battalion, mix of MLRS and SPH
1x Strategic Artillery Regiment of
1x Heavy Artillery Battalion (203mm Howitzer)
1x Strategic MLRS Battalion (ATACMS)
1x Air Defense Regiment of
3x MERAD Battalion
1x LRAD Battalion
1x Anti Tank Regiment of
3x Anti Tank Battalion
1x Combat Engineering Regiment of
3x CEB
1x Combat Support Regiment of
3x Combat Support Battalion (think of US BSB)
In the field, they could be organized according to the Division commander whim. Could be tasked in organizations similar to US BCT. Could be organized where all artillery falls under Division commander, instead of handed out to the Infantry regiment, etc...
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:25 pm
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
random question time:
How many
tractor-borne infantry brigades does your fictional armee sport?
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:57 pm
by Gallia-
3
Posted:
Tue May 19, 2020 11:41 pm
by The Manticoran Empire
0 because what the hell is that?
Posted:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:01 am
by Triplebaconation
Several Scandinavian armies use tractors for logistics.
NS-grade would be a Rheinmetall John Deere:
Posted:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:30 am
by Theodosiya
0. Why use tractors when you can use trucks, humvee/Tigr and APCe...
Posted:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:36 am
by Somerania
So think of it like this... I am Yugoslavia so I wanna domestically make an amphibious warfare ship any tips (I am talking about a reunified Yugoslavia that possesses all the technology of Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, FYROM, Montenegro and Kosovo)