NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Vol. 11.0

[Almadaria]

What is the feasibility of electric reactive armor (as opposed to common explosive reactive armor) in the near future, and what advantages would it have over conventional ERA?

As well as that, would it be possible to stack different types of reactive armor (i.e. a modular turret add-on that features an exterior of ERA and then a layer of NERA or NxRA) to achieve better protection? Would that become too heavy to not be superfluous, or simply too expensive?

[Allanea]

How to make your soldiers tolerate homosexuals?

(Sharifistan has high levels of homophobia, homosexuals used to be banned from the forces, most of Sharifistan's Muftis and Bishops are against the practice and Jamaican dancehall music is popular in Sharifistan.

What caused homosexuals to no longer be banned?

Is it some cultural change or is this something the nation's leader decided against the wishes of most people in the country?

[Triplebaconation]

1 & 2: 6000
3: 3000
4: 1500
5: 750
6: 375
7: 187.5
8: 93.75
9: 46.975 <- Bingo

Hardly.

Everyone who eats sufficient squid ink pasta knows battleship hit probabilities have fat tails.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

How to make your soldiers tolerate homosexuals?

(Sharifistan has high levels of homophobia, homosexuals used to be banned from the forces, most of Sharifistan's Muftis and Bishops are against the practice and Jamaican dancehall music is popular in Sharifistan.

What caused homosexuals to no longer be banned?

Is it some cultural change or is this something the nation's leader decided against the wishes of most people in the country?

Something the leader decided but supported by most nobles

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

What caused homosexuals to no longer be banned?

Is it some cultural change or is this something the nation's leader decided against the wishes of most people in the country?

Something the leader decided but supported by most nobles

That sounds like the recipe for an Islamist revolution.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Something the leader decided but supported by most nobles

That sounds like the recipe for an Islamist revolution.

the Islamic scholars like them because of other policies.
They are quite good with their Islamist credentials overall.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That sounds like the recipe for an Islamist revolution.

the Islamic scholars like them because of other policies.
They are quite good with their Islamist credentials overall.

So. Aristocrats.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

That sounds like the recipe for an Islamist revolution.

the Islamic scholars like them because of other policies.
They are quite good with their Islamist credentials overall.

Also allowing them into the Army "furthers the cause of Islam" in the view of the Sultanate by increasing the number of competent, tough troops.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

the Islamic scholars like them because of other policies.
They are quite good with their Islamist credentials overall.

So. Aristocrats.

yes.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So. Aristocrats.

yes.

You realise this is how we got guilloutines irl right?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

yes.

You realise this is how we got guilloutines irl right?

Yeah but that's unlikely to happen in the near future in Sharifistan for a number of reasons.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You realise this is how we got guilloutines irl right?

Yeah but that's unlikely to happen in the near future in Sharifistan for a number of reasons.

So handwaving. Why are you here?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Yeah but that's unlikely to happen in the near future in Sharifistan for a number of reasons.

So handwaving. Why are you here?

Well it might happen come to think of it but how?
Sharifistan has good propaganda and directs public anger to foreign enemies, against whom they often win.
These enemies could encourage rebellion but due to the way they treat ordinary Sharifistanis this is unlikely to encourage support.

Sharifistan is engaged in a civil war but the enemies are being defeated.

then again Islamist and democratic fervour, channelled into the Free Danistarabian Army could easily boomerang back to Sharifistan.
(like It did to France after they funded the American Revolution)

[Immoren]

Biannual Summer&winter induction vs biannual spring&fall induction for fresh troops.
Fight.

[The Akasha Colony]

What is the feasibility of electric reactive armor (as opposed to common explosive reactive armor) in the near future, and what advantages would it have over conventional ERA?

As well as that, would it be possible to stack different types of reactive armor (i.e. a modular turret add-on that features an exterior of ERA and then a layer of NERA or NxRA) to achieve better protection? Would that become too heavy to not be superfluous, or simply too expensive?

Electric reactive armor requires a tremendous amount of power and therefore a fairly large bank of capacitors or other type of energy storage device. It also provides poor multi-hit protection; once the capacitors have been discharged from an impact, it will take time to recharge them and during this period the armor provides no additional protection aside from the thickness of its metal plating. This can be reduced by including a really big engine, but that comes with the disadvantage of cost and volume. The primary advantage is that you don't have to worry about ERA tiles detonating in close proximity to friendly personnel, but most of the things that would trigger an ERA tile are already fairly unpleasant for friendly personnel to be around anyway.

NERA is already how modern tank armor functions. Which means that ERA kits over regular armor are already "stacking" different types of armor.

[New Vihenia]

Why we never really see a full faced helmet for regular fighter pilot anymore ? Nowadays it's always a crash helmet and Mask.

Back in the day, there used to be something like VKK-6 suit

[Velkanika]

Why we never really see a full faced helmet for regular fighter pilot anymore ? Nowadays it's always a crash helmet and Mask.

Back in the day, there used to be something like VKK-6 suit

(Image)

Modern oxygen masks and pressurized cockpits remove the impetus for that equipment. It's outdated technology unless you're going to space.

[Gallia-]

MiG-21 had a fully pressurized cockpit.

Why we never really see a full faced helmet for regular fighter pilot anymore ? Nowadays it's always a crash helmet and Mask.

Back in the day, there used to be something like VKK-6 suit

(Image)

VKK-6 is still used by the RuAF.

[Triplebaconation]

It's better if you're bailing out of your 50s interceptor at extreme speed and altitude.

Worse in modern fighter combat because you don't want a giant helmet breaking your neck when you pull gs.

Even Soviets only wore them for certain missions.

[Gallia-]

All the more reason to have carbon fiber spines to carry the weight of the helmet collar off your shoulders and neck. (:

The future is now...

[Austrasien]

Not really. I've been treating it as part and parcel of the same problem the entire time.

No it isn't.

The coincidence and radar rangefinders/directionfinders typically on board the ships were large and heavy, typically several metres across. To my knowledge no equipment existed in WW2 that would have allowed a scout plane to determine range and bearing with the accuracy required for the ship to successfully engage the enemy.

1. Planes can provide accurate observation for naval gunnery even at ranges beyond the ships line of sight.
2. Planes do not require extremely accurate measurements of their position or the targets position to do this.
3. The longer the time of flight of a shell the more manoeuvering will negatively impact hit probability.

All these things are true. You are jumping back and forth between a true claim (3) and a completely unrelated claim about aircraft being unable to provide sufficiently accurate observations to correct fire. That two battleships duelling 40 km apart, both manoeuvering hard, are very unlikely to score hits on each other is true. But it would still be true if they were both able to track each other on radar in real-time with excellent accuracy. The biggest error source, in this case, is the difference between the projected future position the guns are laid to hit and the actual future position the target is occupying when the shells arrive. The derivative of the acceleration capability of the target on the Z and X axises - which is a value that cannot be measured directly by any gunnery instrument - is what is causing the errors in the future position to grow exponentially with time.

Perfect observation of range, azimuth, velocity etc will only reduce the error linearly and conversely errors in these measurements only increase the error in a linear way.... but increasing time of flight increases it exponentially, so the effect of range (time of flight) washes out other uncertainties pretty quickly when a target is manoeuvering.

[The New California Republic]

Not really. I've been treating it as part and parcel of the same problem the entire time.

No it isn't.

Yes I have and it very much is. I have been expanding on it each time, but it is all part and parcel of the same generic problem of accuracy in this specific scenario that I was getting at, which needs an exegesis of the problem at each step if the conversation is going to go anywhere. Trying to hold me to account for discussing several points as part of a general conversation about a specific aspect (accuracy) of a specific scenario is a bit weird tbh, and I'm not entirely sure why you are doing it, but it's probably better if you stop.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Y'all're beautiful alright?

[The New California Republic]

Y'all're beautiful alright?

We know.

[Gallia-]

lmao imagine not using railguns to shoot at hypersonic speeds so your cannon can cover 40 km in 4 seconds