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by Immoren » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:15 am
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Purpelia » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:08 am
Immoren wrote:I wonder if I'm again copying familiar RL system withouth thinking, from one context to another wrong. But I'm not sure if this style of "dual career path for senior career/cadet officers" would make sense in context of larger NS army cultures.
Let me explain.
System for professional officers I had was that after serving certain amount of time as equivalent of captain, based on their ambitions and capabilities, officer would apply either into Staff Officer Course or General Staff Officer Course. Former would be shorter while latter would be longer. And even though officer would be promoted into major after graduating from either and would go through staff officer ranks either way. Difference would be that officer with staff officer course would have much longer promotion cycle and they would never go beyond colonel or equivalent before retirement, officer from General Staff Officer Course would pretty much speed through staff officer ranks and have much less time serving in those roles, before going into General Staff and possibly retiring as General equivalent.
lol
by Immoren » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 am
Purpelia wrote:Immoren wrote:I wonder if I'm again copying familiar RL system withouth thinking, from one context to another wrong. But I'm not sure if this style of "dual career path for senior career/cadet officers" would make sense in context of larger NS army cultures.
Let me explain.
System for professional officers I had was that after serving certain amount of time as equivalent of captain, based on their ambitions and capabilities, officer would apply either into Staff Officer Course or General Staff Officer Course. Former would be shorter while latter would be longer. And even though officer would be promoted into major after graduating from either and would go through staff officer ranks either way. Difference would be that officer with staff officer course would have much longer promotion cycle and they would never go beyond colonel or equivalent before retirement, officer from General Staff Officer Course would pretty much speed through staff officer ranks and have much less time serving in those roles, before going into General Staff and possibly retiring as General equivalent.
lol
Why would anyone volunteer for a variant of the same job that comes with less prospects for promotion along with everything that comes with that? The only way I imagine this could work is if the longer and fancier one was the one you can apply to and than you pick the best and wash the others out into the other program. Might lead to resentment though.
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Purpelia » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:26 am
Immoren wrote:Purpelia wrote:Why would anyone volunteer for a variant of the same job that comes with less prospects for promotion along with everything that comes with that? The only way I imagine this could work is if the longer and fancier one was the one you can apply to and than you pick the best and wash the others out into the other program. Might lead to resentment though.
Well it was what I wrote or "best of staff officer course continue directly to general staff officer course while rest go to units". Which has been other alternative but I am not sure what's currently going on and I was being lazy.
But yeah this system that Finland has in place might be due to size of actual general staff and would be moot in larger NS armies. Don't know about resentment. And I guess some people are content being staff officer at battalion quite while who knows.
by Gallia- » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:46 am
by Immoren » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:24 am
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Gallia- » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:59 am
by Immoren » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:34 am
Gallia- wrote:Those guys could probably be turned into NCOs tbh. Captain isn't really a terminal career placement, it's not even a middling career placement and even major as a terminal is pretty poor performance (major is where you'd be basically middle management, so it can be a terminal, but it's mostly a middle career arc for career officers). Really, colonelcy (battalion or brigade) is the lower bound terminal career progression (for officers who more skilled in things like commanding tanks or employing weapons rather than the "soft" skills of planning and staff discourses), and obviously general officer is the apex terminal for the most competent and brightest officers.
But not everyone can be E-ring material. You can probably ensure that all career officers are at least competent enough to end their careers as staff majors for a colonel or something, though.
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Spirit of Hope » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:00 am
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by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:36 am
New Vihenia wrote:uh yeah quick question... how one define "air superiority" ?
Is definition like :
"Being able to contest, maintain and defend control of airspace regardless of hostile forces's action" enough ?
by Socialist Macronesia » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:41 pm
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Is it realistic for a significant proportion of Generals to be members of a secret society?
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Is it realistic for a significant proportion of Generals to be members of a secret society?
by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:04 pm
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Is it realistic for a significant proportion of Generals to be members of a secret society?
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by Mitheldalond » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:08 am
Gallia- wrote:sheridan turret + bradley chassis = ultimate ifv
by Purpelia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:19 am
Mitheldalond wrote:Gallia- wrote:sheridan turret + bradley chassis = ultimate ifv
Not sure if sarcasm, but I've actually been wondering about this. Not the Sheridan, but replacing the autocannons on IFVs with 120mm gun-mortars. Basically this, but uparmored to match the rest of the IFV, and without any of the indirect fire specific systems since I don't plan on using it as a mortar. So I guess it would essentially be a western equivalent of a BMP-3, but without the autocannon.
Is there anything that makes this a particularly bad or good idea? Should it be done to all IFVs, or only a few?
by Dayganistan » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:48 am
Mitheldalond wrote:Gallia- wrote:sheridan turret + bradley chassis = ultimate ifv
Not sure if sarcasm, but I've actually been wondering about this. Not the Sheridan, but replacing the autocannons on IFVs with 120mm gun-mortars. Basically this, but uparmored to match the rest of the IFV, and without any of the indirect fire specific systems since I don't plan on using it as a mortar. So I guess it would essentially be a western equivalent of a BMP-3, but without the autocannon.
Is there anything that makes this a particularly bad or good idea? Should it be done to all IFVs, or only a few?
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by Socialist Macronesia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:09 am
The Islands of Versilia wrote:What made the Third Reich so militarily successful, at least overall? What could be attributed to Germany’s overall military success, and how could an island nation functioning under a similar authoritarian and nationalist regime achieve similar military success?
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