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by Theodosiya » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:29 am
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by Gallia- » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:53 am
Theodosiya wrote:Pro and cons of having composite MLRS-SPH battalion in brigades?
by Danternoust » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:28 am
by New Vihenia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:14 pm
by Gallia- » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:18 pm
by The Manticoran Empire » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:45 pm
New Vihenia wrote:Hey guys, So yeah gotta ask.
I was thinking that there could be a correlation between The longest ranging a weapon or weapons platform a country has with its political or diplomatic influence. Well let's say US..There is carrier groups and ICBM's meaning that US have "global" diplomacy power based on the range of those. Same goes for Soviet Union or in current day Russia.
Based on that there could be perhaps a metrics to figure or approximate diplomatic or political influence of a country based on above. There is of course some additional concerns beyond range like say endurance or maybe Payload (the amount of weapons/firepower that can be unleashed). Perhaps "Payload-range" would be the better metrics than range alone.
One example of usage is Chinese vs Indian carrier fleet. The following is from my simple attempt in figuring out throw weight of LCS-Indian Ocean country carriers. They are for 1000 Km inland target range.
(Image)
From the table above it can be seen that Chinese carrier fleet has superior throw weight and can strike more targets. Thus China is more likely to have better leverage in terms of "diplomatic or influence power" on its bid, despite Indian Carrier may have same range. The conclusion is both Nations have "very long range" presence but China is stronger as it can deliver more punch to back their words.
So long story short "Diplomatic/influence = How far, how long and how hard you can hit"
What do you guys think on my concept above ?
by New Vihenia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:54 pm
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Diplomacy and Influence has more to it than just firepower. The reason why the US is a superpower and Russia no longer is comes to down to political clout and economic power. The US has enough political clout that it can call together dozens of nations for wars that don't even really affect those other nations. Further, the US has enough economic power that it can finance projects in dozens of foreign nations simultaneously.
There is a reason why China is currently spending billions on projects in foreign nations and working on buddying up to the developing world. It want's to push the US out of those areas and replace or at least match the US in influence over the world.
by The Manticoran Empire » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:40 pm
New Vihenia wrote:The Manticoran Empire wrote:Diplomacy and Influence has more to it than just firepower. The reason why the US is a superpower and Russia no longer is comes to down to political clout and economic power. The US has enough political clout that it can call together dozens of nations for wars that don't even really affect those other nations. Further, the US has enough economic power that it can finance projects in dozens of foreign nations simultaneously.
There is a reason why China is currently spending billions on projects in foreign nations and working on buddying up to the developing world. It want's to push the US out of those areas and replace or at least match the US in influence over the world.
The thing is that Both Chinese and the US basically similar.. both have carrier fleet although US have more. and as we see even at some point Soviet and later Russia have the carrier fleet and other long ranged weapons platform.
That is another point that i see the influence and diplomacy have correlation to those metrics i mentioned.
Clearly Nation capable of fielding such have economic and "other factor" that does allow such acquisition. Thailland and Brazil at one point have such ability but with the loss of their carrier fleet and lack of other platform (Thailland still has carrier tho it does not have any fighters) Indicating that these Nation does not able to exert influence and diplomacy as far as what they used to be. Their influence is now limited to payload-range of their fighter jets or warship.
by Gallia- » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:47 pm
by Danternoust » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:53 pm
by New Vihenia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:48 am
by Kazarogkai » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:22 am
by Triplebaconation » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:49 am
by Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:18 am
Triplebaconation wrote:Sounds like Cub Scouts.
by Austrasien » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:18 am
New Vihenia wrote:Hey guys, So yeah gotta ask.
I was thinking that there could be a correlation between The longest ranging a weapon or weapons platform a country has with its political or diplomatic influence. Well let's say US..There is carrier groups and ICBM's meaning that US have "global" diplomacy power based on the range of those. Same goes for Soviet Union or in current day Russia.
Based on that there could be perhaps a metrics to figure or approximate diplomatic or political influence of a country based on above. There is of course some additional concerns beyond range like say endurance or maybe Payload (the amount of weapons/firepower that can be unleashed). Perhaps "Payload-range" would be the better metrics than range alone.
One example of usage is Chinese vs Indian carrier fleet. The following is from my simple attempt in figuring out throw weight of LCS-Indian Ocean country carriers. They are for 1000 Km inland target range.
(Image)
From the table above it can be seen that Chinese carrier fleet has superior throw weight and can strike more targets. Thus China is more likely to have better leverage in terms of "diplomatic or influence power" on its bid, despite Indian Carrier may have same range. The conclusion is both Nations have "very long range" presence but China is stronger as it can deliver more punch to back their words.
So long story short "Diplomatic/influence = How far, how long and how hard you can hit"
What do you guys think on my concept above ?
by Kazarogkai » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:46 am
Triplebaconation wrote:Sounds like Cub Scouts.
by Purpelia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:57 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:Triplebaconation wrote:Sounds like Cub Scouts.
Lol
Odly enough my biggest influence was the promotion and ranking system of the Aztecs to a degree with some vaguely Roman influence. Within the Aztec system the way one would rise through the ranks was via capturing enemy warriors, I replaced that with headhunting expanding upon an already existing institution within Shaza society. One head your now fully initiated, 2 heads you've earned your name and can now join the shield wall, 4 heads your doing good welcome to the 2nd line, finally 8 heads your a big boy now and it's time for you to help mentor some of these young bucks. In the Aztecs it was purely linear(1,2,3,4,etc) but I figure slicing off a guys head in the middle of a battle would be a bit more simple than dragging someone back as a captive hence the greater numbers needed. That and they just kinda got a thing for the number 2(the Heavenly Couple) and don't tend to like odd numbers(the Corrupt One) much. atleast historically that is how it would have been done. Just thinking out loud here.
by New Vihenia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:32 pm
Austrasien wrote:
How much power projection capability a state has, and so how much diplomatic leverage it could potentially gain from that, is a function of the quality of their reconnaissance-strike complex. The US has the NRO and the B-2 so it's number one, it can credibly threaten to find and kill anything anywhere.
by Gallia- » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:53 pm
by United Earthlings » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:12 pm
New Vihenia wrote:What do you guys think on my concept above?
by Austrasien » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:23 pm
New Vihenia wrote:Can this be related to say resolution capability of their respective Satellite ? Be it Optical, radar or ESM.
by Danternoust » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:36 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:39 am
Danternoust wrote:In Danternoust-84, the main fleet uses nuclear destroyers with open reactor compartments that create a steam curtain, obscuring the fleet from any direct observer unaided by sonar or radar.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
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