Infantry Discussion Thread part 11: Gallas Razor edition.

[Khornatenreich]

Again it is mostly cosmetic--it does nothing better than a rimless cartridge does in a machine gun and restricts you to a pull feed out of a belt.

Soooooooooo................ no complaints then towards a PKM style feed system?

[Taihei Tengoku]

Again it is mostly cosmetic--it does nothing better than a rimless cartridge does in a machine gun and restricts you to a pull feed out of a belt.

Soooooooooo................ no complaints then towards a PKM style feed system?

To do the same thing a rimmed cartridge does at twice the cost, yes.

[Techoligia]

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

[NeuPolska]

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

Having a bunch of dudes walking around on stilts is a bad idea. Mobility is limited, everyone can see them coming (read: anyone can shoot them from a distance), and the only use they really have in intimidation, but that goes away once someone realizes you can literally just tie their stilts together or trip them, and in that case, they'd probably break a bunch of bones in the fall and cease to be a threat to anyone.

[Salus Maior]

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

Having a bunch of dudes walking around on stilts is a bad idea. Mobility is limited, everyone can see them coming (read: anyone can shoot them from a distance), and the only use they really have in intimidation, but that goes away once someone realizes you can literally just tie their stilts together or trip them, and in that case, they'd probably break a bunch of bones in the fall and cease to be a threat to anyone.

Yeah, probably better to just have snipers stationed in high positions.

Which was I guess the main purpose of the Tall Boys anyhow.

[Puzikas]

Again it is mostly cosmetic--it does nothing better than a rimless cartridge does in a machine gun and restricts you to a pull feed out of a belt.

Some belted cases (VERY few) are belted because the pressure spike makes them difficult to extract because of the cases expansion, and they rely on this expansion to, well, work.
These are rare, dumb and usually found in cannons.

Usually it's just for headspace but since the 1930s it's been useless.

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

No lol

Yeah, probably better to just have snipers stationed in high positions

Yeah static, covered high positions with good cover and concealment with good line of sight visibility.
Read
Not on stilts

[Free-Don]

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

Parades, circuses, celebrations, weddings, birthdays, traffic duties (an actual purpose it could serve), and jobs where high visibility is necessary/far away from combat. There's a reason why dishonored only uses basically singleshot pistols and arrows/bolts and that's to make things hard. Imagine having a shotgun, automatic rifle, or a revolver in the game. The threat of TallestBoi falls away.

[Allanea]

The rule of thumb holds.

If your question starts with "I've seen it in a game", it's likely a bad idea.

[Purpelia]

How would you even discharge a firearm when standing on stilts without killing your self? I mean, fundamentally what you are when standing on stilts is a giant lever. And when you discharge a firearm you are applying a lot of recoil force to the far end of said lever. Unless you are in some sort of specific braced position with the legs extended to form a V frame to stabilize you the whole thing would tip over backward.

[Free-Don]

How would you even discharge a firearm when standing on stilts without killing your self? I mean, fundamentally what you are when standing on stilts is a giant lever. And when you discharge a firearm you are applying a lot of recoil force to the far end of said lever. Unless you are in some sort of specific braced position with the legs extended to form a V frame to stabilize you the whole thing would tip over backward.

That or alternatively-

You could tie a heavy bag to your waist with a fairly long rope or tie, drop the bag before you need to shoot, let it dangle for a second, and then shoot when it settles. To take fast shots you could slowly lower it down and then shoot.

[Purpelia]

How would you even discharge a firearm when standing on stilts without killing your self? I mean, fundamentally what you are when standing on stilts is a giant lever. And when you discharge a firearm you are applying a lot of recoil force to the far end of said lever. Unless you are in some sort of specific braced position with the legs extended to form a V frame to stabilize you the whole thing would tip over backward.

That or alternatively-

You could tie a heavy bag to your waist with a fairly long rope or tie, drop the bag before you need to shoot, let it dangle for a second, and then shoot when it settles. To take fast shots you could slowly lower it down and then shoot.

What would that achieve?

Remember, we are not talking about a person who is in a position of instability. If it was that he'd just fall off or at least wobble so much that he couldn't aim strait. And all your method would achieve is prove that he can stand. The problem here is that you are applying a large and abrupt force to the tail end of that lever that's going to mess that stability up.

[Free-Don]

That or alternatively-

You could tie a heavy bag to your waist with a fairly long rope or tie, drop the bag before you need to shoot, let it dangle for a second, and then shoot when it settles. To take fast shots you could slowly lower it down and then shoot.

What would that achieve?

Remember, we are not talking about a person who is in a position of instability. If it was that he'd just fall off or at least wobble so much that he couldn't aim strait. And all your method would achieve is prove that he can stand. The problem here is that you are applying a large and abrupt force to the tail end of that lever that's going to mess that stability up.

I tried to find a way to make two pencils stand up. The only way I could was to add a anchor to both and it seemed to resist getting shot by a airsoft gun fairly well.

Edit: Just realized my gun was unloaded and I was shooting compressed air. I broke a pencil trying to test actual bbs.

[Laywenrania]

How would you even discharge a firearm when standing on stilts without killing your self? I mean, fundamentally what you are when standing on stilts is a giant lever. And when you discharge a firearm you are applying a lot of recoil force to the far end of said lever. Unless you are in some sort of specific braced position with the legs extended to form a V frame to stabilize you the whole thing would tip over backward.

recoilless rifles.

[Purpelia]

I tried to find a way to make two pencils stand up. The only way I could was to add a anchor to both and it seemed to resist getting shot by a airsoft gun fairly well.

But you also took your time to set the pencils up in a mostly stable position to begin with rather than starting with a random position. Right?
My basic complaint isn't that you can't stabilize but that you'd have to memorize and assume some sort of dedicated shooting stance every time you fire AND do so on stilts.

[Free-Don]

I tried to find a way to make two pencils stand up. The only way I could was to add a anchor to both and it seemed to resist getting shot by a airsoft gun fairly well.

But you also took your time to set the pencils up in a mostly stable position to begin with rather than starting with a random position. Right?
My basic complaint isn't that you can't stabilize but that you'd have to memorize and assume some sort of dedicated shooting stance every time you fire AND do so on stilts.

True.

[Austrasien]

So here's a new question:

Are the Tall boys of Dishonored practical in any situation at all? Techoligia uses a similar design as a Military Police unit.

How would they interact with suspects? How would they search them? How would they detain them (step on them???)? How would they even have a proper conversation with them?

Exo-stilts could maybe be useful for certain policing situations that have been mentioned. But you only need or want a foot or two of extra height. Enough to give officers a head above a crowd, but not so much they are running into power lines.

[Puzikas]

It seems that basically everyone wants something like

for their "Military Police" or something but no one ever tells us that it's the name they give to their STASI or Gestapo or NKVD or whatever.

[Fordorsia]

Mobile Oppression Palace for president

[Gallia-]

all spergen should watch citizen x

it's even on "youtube" O:

it's shockingly good for a television movie

but p much all american television movies are shockingly good

or at least HBO's are rly

temple grandin is the apex mb

[Allanea]

I have watched it in my childhood.

[Gallia-]

Good.

Watch it again because it owns.

Donald Sutherland beats his performance in Outbreak by miles.

[Purpelia]

Is Purpelia like the only country here without a secret oppression police?

[Vassenor]

Is Purpelia like the only country here without a secret oppression police?

I ain't building no authoritarian dictatorship, so no.

[Purpelia]

Is Purpelia like the only country here without a secret oppression police?

I ain't building no authoritarian dictatorship, so no.

I technically am but I still don't have a secret police. Although I am more of a liberal absolute monarchy thing than a proper dictatorship but still no elections and no secret police.

[Gallia-]

Absolute monarchies are the opposite of liberal.