Infantry Discussion Thread part 11: Gallas Razor edition.

[Free-Don]

I feel like I'm starting to wake from a strange fever dream. That or I'm dying of malaria.

I think with just that little hint of cross pin over the magazine we may realize that one of the first things I proposed kinda what we're both looking for as a solution. A metal piece that prevents the bolt from ride far back enough to strip a bullet from the magazine right?

No, that is what you are looking at.

What I am looking at is a little piece of metal, a few millimeters thick that pivots sideways. And when pushed into the gun it pushes the first round in the magazine those few mm down and that prevents the bolt from picking it up. That way the bolt can still close and cycle fine. It just can't touch the bullets.

And the primary reason why I am looking at this specific arrangement is because it is something that would have been intimately familiar to firearms designers at the time and would have done a decent job as a safety in this case.

Unless you're gonna go back to something about pushing the bullets in the magazine down (21 or 31 magazine loaded with only 20 or 30 boolets would be a minimum requirement) or for some reason I remember you talking about having the magazine cut off after every 5 rounds (can't find where I might have heard that) then we're in agreement. Just a button and a rib.

I do not think you understand how magazine cutoffs work. So just watch: https://youtu.be/1ACVQKUMfoI?t=2m20s

Yeah what I was hearing for some reason was a automatic magazine cut off (currently backtracking to find where I heard that from but I still ain't got a clue). Where after 5 rounds the magazine and the rounds were pushed down.
Good clarification on possibly not needing a round out to cut the magazine off but does that work with a larger capacity magazine that's under quite a bit more spring tension.

All I care about now is realizing I'm in the wrong and that my dog and I haven't gotten a shower since I got back from the Philippines.

[Purpelia]

Yeah what I was hearing for some reason was a automatic magazine cut off (currently backtracking to find where I heard that from but I still ain't got a clue). Where after 5 rounds the magazine and the rounds were pushed down.

I mean no offense by this. But like what ever you are smoking I want some off.

Good clarification on possibly not needing a round out to cut the magazine off but does that work with a larger capacity magazine that's under quite a bit more spring tension.

If the spring tension is so high that you are unable to push a round down a couple millimeter with a lever mechanism it's high enough that you can't hand load the magazine either.

All I care about now is realizing I'm in the wrong and that my dog and I haven't gotten a shower since I got back from the Philippines.

Isn't there like a murder orgy going on there right now? At least that's what the internet wants me to believe.

[Free-Don]

I mean no offense by this. But like what ever you are smoking I want some off.

Isn't there like a murder orgy going on there right now? At least that's what the internet wants me to believe.

I was there on business I'd rather not talk about. My experience there was as a child, teen, and very young adult. Each time I visited I was either shot at, robbed, or pick pocketed. Lived there for a year and a couple months about 9 years ago. During that time I was caught in a earthquake, Typhoon Ketsana, had family in Mindanao there were involved with the shootings, lost all electricity for 8 months, was shot at in a school I was at, someone threw a bomb near a university my parents were at, a cousin was kidnapped, three converted to islam and are proextermist now, two are dead trying to be hardcore gangster and got shot by jollibee policia, and three people were hanged/executed for child molesting in my village/hometown. Oh and my dad got Vietnam flashbacks.

The man who did the deed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THfkWIF97EY

This visit was nicer. Got off the plane, got detained by police for having too many cellphones and laptops, rode tricycles that cost a little bit more but were able to take me and my group where I needed to go, dropped off some stuff at a local church, slept at the airport, lost a cellphone/got pickpocketed, took another plane to another island, met a jungle minister that helped my group get where we needed to be, dropped more stuff off at a remote jungle village, heard a couple high volumes of fire coming from the village but that may have just been a party, nearly got engaged, taught some basic martial arts, moved on to a beautiful walled off mission, stayed there for a while, dropped the rest of our stuff at a orphanage, and headed home. 2+ weeks and the most of the gun fire was probably a celebration for giving away solar powered laptops and bad karate lessons. Overall a lot nicer, more productive, and apparently two of my cousins got pretty big scholarships in their local towns. But then again I wasn't in the south much which I've seen is basically a war zone according to my family (one of my.

If you hadn't noticed I was doing most humanitarian work. My group had two doctors, a dentist, a pastor, missionary, and several others I won't say. But being the only guy that works security, can sleep with one eye open, and has experience firing some guns and using some small unit airsoft tactics it was up to me to kinda pull security. I tried to let others watch our stuff and the door entrance but I found them asleep on the job way too often. Along with that I'm the english to kinda filipino speaker of the group.

Basically I'm smoking about 2 weeks of sleep deprivation (slept while walking and during a boat ride), weed (old dusty and buried in a hole), homemade red wine (tasted like vodka), and other stuff I can't mention without Duerte finding me. Only got to sleep on the plane ride which ended up being two days long and during this conversation.

[Spreewerke]

Nice meme.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Oh my god you're alive.

[Khornatenreich]

What the hell did I do? Drew up a bottlenecked .45 Long Colt followup, that's what. 11.70x34mm now exists for some retarded reason or another. (.45LC on the left & .54 Sharps-ish on the right for comparison's sake)

[Husseinarti]

For the more ancient warfare minded:

We talk of Alexander vs Rome in many cases, however we tend to forget the people who gave the Romans some heavy shit as viable opponents to Alexander.

How would Parthian heavy cav fare against the Alexanderian Phalanx and his leadership?

Considering they were able to decimate the heavy infantry focused Romans, the Macedonians who relayed on heavy infantry and heavy shock cav might get a good run for their money with parthian cavalry forces.

[Fordorsia]

The Parthians probably wouldn't even need their heavy cavalry as much as they did at Carrhae. They only had to use them there because the testudo made their archers ineffective. Not that it was a problem, because that was the whole point, so they could smash the Romans while they were bunched up behind their big shields.

With the Macedonians, their shields are way less effective against missiles, and with the formations still being comparatively slow and immobile, they'd probably suffer just as badly, but more from archers. Outflank the army. Encircle and wear down if they close in to protect flanks. Run them through if they are separated and cut off.

I doubt any Mac cav would be much help, because they weren't exactly more numerous than Roman armies, and for the most part they don't even have shields.

[Spreewerke]

Oh my god you're alive.

The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

[Husseinarti]

Oh my god you're alive.

The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

unfortunately

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

wow r00d

[Crsca]

Could AT-rifles attain a greater penetrating power by increasing bullet velocity and making more complex munitions?

[Fordorsia]

Complex in what way and what kind of armour are you trying to penetrate?

[Sevvania]

This could be worth looking into, if you're trying to build a better AT rifle.
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/carl-g ... ank-rifle/

[Crookfur]

Could AT-rifles attain a greater penetrating power by increasing bullet velocity and making more complex munitions?

For what time period? What do you mean by more complex munitions?

As to velocity it will help but what are willing to sacrifice to get it?

[Puzikas]

Wow I'm gone for three more days and you guys let
...Nothing happen...
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The...thread...

Okay then.

Could AT-rifles attain a greater penetrating power by increasing bullet velocity and making more complex munitions?

Yes and they did but no modern "rifle" that is infantry transportable and fires a bullet that doesn't have a reactive element could ever defeat and MBT.

The 12.7mm rounds now have some difficulty defeating the softer parts of IFVs as it is

[Western Pacific Territories]

Wow I'm gone for three more days and you guys let
...Nothing happen...
...to...
The...thread...

Okay then.

Could AT-rifles attain a greater penetrating power by increasing bullet velocity and making more complex munitions?

Yes and they did but no modern "rifle" that is infantry transportable and fires a bullet that doesn't have a reactive element could ever defeat and MBT.

The 12.7mm rounds now have some difficulty defeating the softer parts of IFVs as it is

Know Crsca he's more suited for making weird political ideologies nobodys heard of than answering specific questions like what you'd probably need to answer his question.

[Austrasien]

Stosstrupen!

Jaegerregiment No.6:

• Regimental HQ
• 1st Assault Battalion
• 2nd Assault Battalion
• 3rd Assault Battalion
• 4th Assault Battalion
• 5th Tank Battalion
• 6th Artillery Battalion
• 7th Artillery Battalion
• Assault Pioneer Platoon
• Reconnaissance Company
• Signal Company
• NBC Company
• Supply Company
• Maintenance Company
• Medical Platoon

Sturmbataillon:

• Battalion HQ
• 1st Assault Company
• 2nd Assault Company
• 3rd Assault Company
• 4th Assault Company
• Weapons Company
• Heavy Mortar Battery
• Anti-tank Platoon
• Air Defense Platoon
• Signal Platoon
• Supply Platoon

Sturmkompanie

• Battalion HQ
• 1st Assault Platoon
• 2nd Assault Platoon
• 3rd Assault Platoon
• 4th Assault Platoon
• Weapons Platoon
• Mortar Battery

Assault Platoon

• Platoon HQ
• Assault Squad
• Assault Squad
• Assault Squad
• MG Squad
• Recoilless Rifle Squad

Assault Squad

• Squad Leader
• Rifleman
• Rifleman
• Assistant Squad Leader
• Rifleman
• Rifleman
• Team Leader
• Rifleman
• Rifleman

Jaeger Regiment No. 6 is a unique Jaeger unit of the Austrasian Reichsarmee intended for pre-planned attacks on battlefield strong points. The regiment is not intended to be deployed en bloc but as battalion or company sized forces wherever their services are needed. The regiment and its troops have unique organization, tactics and equipment which is distinct both from other Jaeger infantry and Panzer infantry and reflects their special battlefield role. Though they normally enter battle in APCs (which are not organic to the regiment) like all Jaegers the No. 6 Regiment trains and fights almost exclusively on foot. The No. 6 Regiments training is considered especially demanding because men are expected to not only excel at light infantry tactics but also be familiar with the basics of combat engineering and obstacle breeching. They are the only unit in the modern Reichsarmee granted the honor of wearing the Deaths Head insignia on their uniforms signifying their role as storm troopers.

Their signature arms are the assault rifle (a functional not technical designation, the standard infantry assault rifle is merely called a rifle), a micro-caliber (5.5x30mm) assault rifle intended for controlled automatic fire from the hip at short range, and modified short-fuse (3 seconds) grenades. During an attack assault squads dismount as close as possible to their target then advance swiftly in short bounds under cover of their weapons squads. Making use of cover they infiltrate as deeply into the defended area as possible, outflanking strong points whenever possible, before attacking and destroying them at close range with hand grenades and automatic fire.

Because breaking through dense anti-tank defenses is one of their main roles the No. 6 Regiment trains regularly with the Panzer troops, who also provide the personnel carriers.

[Gallia-]

Gud speg, but is there really a need for MARS-alike for point shooting?

That reminds me that I need to figure out how to shoehorn MARS into Galla's inventory system too. I might ditch the Colt SMG for MARS?

[Austrasien]

5.5x30mm came to be after traditional pistol calibres were banished from the Armee because the general staff decided at some point that the future is body armour. The assault troops wanted something to replace their old SMGs that satisfied new requirements for armour penetration but still provided an adequate volume of fire and a round was borned.

[Free-Don]

5.5x30mm came to be after traditional pistol calibres were banished from the Armee because the general staff decided at some point that the future is body armour. The assault troops wanted something to replace their old SMGs that satisfied new requirements for armour penetration but still provided an adequate volume of fire and a round was borned.

Sounds like a SMG/PDW still rather than a assault rifle. Though the lines are blurred between the functions of the two(three?) weapon systems. But with the caviot that PDW/SMGs are weaker and less versitile with their only advantage being if you have a extremely stupidly high rate of fire or are working alongside full power rifles. As all intermediate calibers are just better than a pistol caliber thing. At best pistol thingies are given to troops that won't see much combat and would need something with less recoil and are cheaper to train with, troops that need to minimize civilian causalities, and those that need suppressors.

In other words it's a specialized weapon for special people.

A micro caliber pistol as a standard has it's own issues that others will probably have to address as I don't really know much about that still.

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Adopting steel case ammo as the standard instead of brass.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

5.5x30mm came to be after traditional pistol calibres were banished from the Armee because the general staff decided at some point that the future is body armour. The assault troops wanted something to replace their old SMGs that satisfied new requirements for armour penetration but still provided an adequate volume of fire and a round was borned.

Sounds like a SMG/PDW still rather than a assault rifle. Though the lines are blurred between the functions of the two(three?) weapon systems. But with the caviot that PDW/SMGs are weaker and less versitile with their only advantage being if you have a extremely stupidly high rate of fire or are working alongside full power rifles. As all intermediate calibers are just better than a pistol caliber thing. At best pistol thingies are given to troops that won't see much combat and would need something with less recoil and are cheaper to train with, troops that need to minimize civilian causalities, and those that need suppressors.

In other words it's a specialized weapon for special people.

A micro caliber pistol as a standard has it's own issues that others will probably have to address as I don't really know much about that still.

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Adopting steel case ammo as the standard instead of brass.

Tbh Kyiv's gat is literally a Sturmgewehr.

[Husseinarti]

5.5x30mm came to be after traditional pistol calibres were banished from the Armee because the general staff decided at some point that the future is body armour. The assault troops wanted something to replace their old SMGs that satisfied new requirements for armour penetration but still provided an adequate volume of fire and a round was borned.

Sounds like a SMG/PDW still rather than a assault rifle. Though the lines are blurred between the functions of the two(three?) weapon systems. But with the caviot that PDW/SMGs are weaker and less versitile with their only advantage being if you have a extremely stupidly high rate of fire or are working alongside full power rifles. As all intermediate calibers are just better than a pistol caliber thing. At best pistol thingies are given to troops that won't see much combat and would need something with less recoil and are cheaper to train with, troops that need to minimize civilian causalities, and those that need suppressors.

In other words it's a specialized weapon for special people.

A micro caliber pistol as a standard has it's own issues that others will probably have to address as I don't really know much about that still.

You seem to be totally not understanding why hes issuing them and fixated on like one dumb issue.

He is issuing them on the basis that the round has excellent body armor penetration abilities and recoil compensation. The rifle is issued so infantry can his it from the hip effectively to allow for better close-in fighting ability.

The assault squads aren't supposed to engage infantry squads at the ranges the infantry are going to be using their rifles at, the assault squads are supposed to close in and engage as close as possible. The MG and RR squads are supposed to engage at distances. You need to understand that these are highly specialized troops, a single highly niche assault regiment in an entire army. You also need to understand the overall concept that the squad is not the primary fighting force thats being described here. It is the platoon.

[Gallia-]

Wow I'm gone for three more days and you guys let
...Nothing happen...
...to...
The...thread...

WARNING: CUTE ANIMAL

it's this ofc

[Puzikas]

Wow I'm gone for three more days and you guys let
...Nothing happen...
...to...
The...thread...

WARNING: CUTE ANIMAL

it's this ofc

Ayyyy it's a Russian defense unit