Infantry Discussion Thread part 11: Gallas Razor edition.

[Fordorsia]

FUCK taters

[Dostanuot Loj]

Preach it brother!

The funny thing is we used to get Smash as an occasional special treat instead of "real" potatoes.

the past really was grim wasn't it

The food bank didn't usually have real potatoes, so we would buy them when we could afford them.
Growing up in abject poverty gives you weird food likes.

I have been known to tear pieces of bread into a bowl or bag, add poultry seasoning and salt, and eat it.

[Purpelia]

FUCK taters

Remind me newer to come eat dinner at your place.

[Fordorsia]

lmao you'd never get invited please go eat out of a bin my friend!

[Purpelia]

lmao you'd never get invited please go eat out of a bin my friend!

Given what you just admitted doing to food I genuinely find that option more appetizing.

[Rhodesialund]

FUCK taters

And that folks, is how the Irish Famine happened.

[Gallia-]

apparently residencies are 16 hours by law now

thanks obama

[Ord Caprica]

no theyre just alcoholics

the usa is currently in a vietnam-tier death spiral again and the DoD is up to its eyeballs in alcoholism and opiate abuse because troops are either self-medicating instead of seeking actual medical care (this is a common thing in the USA) or suffering chronic arthritis and incapable of functioning normally without taking enough morphine to drop a horse (this is a common thing in the West, period)

how far the mighty have fallen

the allegedly professional "all volunteer force" resembles its original self again: drunk/stoned out of its mind, in dire need of investment in new guns and operating budgets, and incapable of putting up effective resistance against the russians for lack of quality personnel and equipment

maybe the 2020s will be 1980s again and we'll see actual investment in the military pay off with block iii tank and crusader--oh wait for that to have happened we'd need have started block iii tank 20 years ago just like mbt-70 and m1 did so RIP

time to revamp the military with a new and improved "all American force" to bolster numbers of quality troops and in general aka bring back the draft

Impossible.. Unit has only had one drug case in the last 3 years.. Must be fake news

[Gallia-]

no theyre just alcoholics

the usa is currently in a vietnam-tier death spiral again and the DoD is up to its eyeballs in alcoholism and opiate abuse because troops are either self-medicating instead of seeking actual medical care (this is a common thing in the USA) or suffering chronic arthritis and incapable of functioning normally without taking enough morphine to drop a horse (this is a common thing in the West, period)

how far the mighty have fallen

the allegedly professional "all volunteer force" resembles its original self again: drunk/stoned out of its mind, in dire need of investment in new guns and operating budgets, and incapable of putting up effective resistance against the russians for lack of quality personnel and equipment

maybe the 2020s will be 1980s again and we'll see actual investment in the military pay off with block iii tank and crusader--oh wait for that to have happened we'd need have started block iii tank 20 years ago just like mbt-70 and m1 did so RIP

time to revamp the military with a new and improved "all American force" to bolster numbers of quality troops and in general aka bring back the draft

Impossible.. Unit has only had one drug case in the last 3 years.. Must be fake news

yeah im sure they test for painkillers

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207276/
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016 ... -lead.html

the AVF has become its old self: drunk and stoned out of its mind, just like the conscript army that fought vietnam

although marijuana and cocaine has been replaced by oxycontin abuse...mostly

[Ord Caprica]

Impossible.. Unit has only had one drug case in the last 3 years.. Must be fake news

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207276/

the AVF has become its old self: drunk and stoned out of its mind, just like the conscript army that fought vietnam

although marijuana and cocaine has been replaced by oxycontin abuse...mostly

My personal opinion and experience is completely subjective given that is just what I've experienced but I'm not seeing anything within the service that says that the 18-25 years here are more prone to or engaging in more substance abuse than 18-25 year olds outside of the Armed Forces.

[Gallia-]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207276/

the AVF has become its old self: drunk and stoned out of its mind, just like the conscript army that fought vietnam

although marijuana and cocaine has been replaced by oxycontin abuse...mostly

My personal opinion and experience is completely subjective given that is just what I've experienced but I'm not seeing anything within the service that says that the 18-25 years here are more prone to or engaging in more substance abuse than 18-25 year olds outside of the Armed Forces.

the highest drug abusers are the senior NCOs in their 30s and 40s

this is probably why

early onset arthritis and other bad things from being extremely physically active in your prime leads to massive pain later when your back starts going out and you cant quite run anymore because your knee is fucked up or something because you tore your ACL slipping on a rock or whatever, etc.; so you basically need to drown yourself in opiates to do work

which supposedly leads to heroin abuse after military service although i find that dubious tbh

a smaller portion is probably xanax/prozac/valium although id guess that soldiers generally prefer alcohol to any of those

so between 2005-2008, the illicit drug use (including prescription abuse) tripled from 4% to 12%, and didn't really seem to be slowing down since it'd previously doubled from 2002-2005 from 2%; illicit drug use remained a fairly steady 2%, although institutional culture might be to CYA anyone important caught doing a load of drugs which could lead to underreporting

so the problem is probably worse than is being told, but it's not quite vietnam tier...yet

12% of soldiers being opiate addicts vice 15% being opiate addicts

although whether you want to lump in abuse of oxycodone with heroin use is maybe questionable? at least dudes arent shooting heroin up in firebases...as much

part of the reason that i think a return to the draft would help is that it would introduce new genes into the military, which is becoming increasingly tribalized by military families who serve generationally, which limits the gene pool of available soldiers to specific subgroups of society

subgroups that may or may not be more vulnerable to opiate and alcohol addictions than other groups, so youd probably want to include in-depth family medical history to identify any drug abuser families and try to weed out those people, like they did with the category IV moron IQs in the 80s and 90s

this really isnt possible with the AVF because the number of candidates is more or less ever shrinking (however they did solve the low IQ question under AVF, but only after a severe downsizing of the army in the 1990s) but it would be possible with AAF aka the draft where you have the pick of the nation's litter

[Ord Caprica]

That's a unique opinion though I don't that Max is who I'd introduce into the discussion. The overall point, I've made is that contrary to what was being said earlier, my personal experience has been the opposite both within my age group and with SNCOs . Either way, keep that draft nonsense away from me. Don't want those non-hackers around me. Good day.

[NeuPolska]

I didn't come to IDT to get hungry

I take it than that you don't want to hear about the potatoes with bacon baked in beer I had for dinner.

I ate so it's all good now

That sounds delicious though. I love bacon-wrapped baked potatoes especially.

[Gallia-]

That's a unique opinion though I don't that Max is who I'd introduce into the discussion. The overall point, I've made is that contrary to what was being said earlier, my personal experience has been the opposite both within my age group and with SNCOs . Either way, keep that draft nonsense away from me. Don't want those non-hackers around me. Good day.

tbh until youre able to perform mass embryo selection and get the highest IQs, the most average heights, and least susceptibility to addiction and mental disorders, building a warrior caste is a poor move (since you'll inevitable attract some chaff that will be hard to shake off), which is what AVF encourages; but nixon wasnt thinking about the long term effects when he ended the draft and i suppose you really cant blame him since he is only american after all

and if youre able to perform mass embryo selection for the smartest, fittest, most average height, and least prone to moral turpitude, you should be doing that for everyone. period.

but ime everything should be seen as a potential tool for eugenics, foremost to all other reasons, because it ensures the future health of society which ostensibly the job of the public elected official

I take it than that you don't want to hear about the potatoes with bacon baked in beer I had for dinner.

I ate so it's all good now

That sounds delicious though. I love bacon-wrapped baked potatoes especially.

second hand fat kills

[Ord Caprica]

Breeding people to kill other people is literally the most immoral thing I've ever heard.

[Gallia-]

Breeding people to kill other people is literally the most immoral thing I've ever heard.

MOST
IMMORAL
THING
EVER

anyway militaries dont exist to "kill people"

they exist to make sure that other people dont kill your people

e: well i guess unless youre like Nazi Germany then they actually exist to kill people irl

but nazi germany's entire economy was just a liquidation engine for killing people all over the place tbh

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

FUCK taters

Tfw a Homo hikikomori subspecies Wehraboo opposes the plant that made Frederick II of Prussia a meme.

[Ord Caprica]

My bad.. I guess the Army has other missions and stuff.

[Gallia-]

in democracies, the military's primary purpose is to prevent war by making war an unpalatable option

when war happens, as it tends to, the military's job becomes to win the war, which sometimes involves killing people

unless you have an unironic genocide machine like the Nazis did, whose sole objective was "kill the bolshevik jewish conspiracy", the part about killing people is just ancillary to whatever objective the war is, which for democracies is generally "turn opponent into democracy", "return borders to antebellum", or something along those lines, cf. afghanistan/iraq/japan/germany/italy

eugenics in the vein i discussed is ultimately an amoral tool, since it can equally apply to democratic armies who want to prevent wars or conduct punitive expeditions, like USA, and imperialist armies who want to kill everyone else around them and plunder their resources, like Rome; it would be beneficial for either to apply principles of science towards improving its genetic stockpile, just like it would be beneficial to teach everyone how to read, or everyone to be patriotic, etc.

FUCK taters

Tfw a Homo hikikomori subspecies Wehraboo opposes the plant that made Frederick II of Prussia a meme.

potato is the most american starch

greatest plant creature

[NeuPolska]

Oi Kassaran how do promotions in the Army work, as in how would I get one? Also, how would I go about getting a degree while in the military? Or do I have to wait until I get out of the military for them to pay my tuition?

[Kazarogkai]

Tfw a Homo hikikomori subspecies Wehraboo opposes the plant that made Frederick II of Prussia a meme.

potato is the most american starch

greatest plant creature

Corn is king, and so is Beef.

[Cosparia]

only if youre a bimbo?

http://imgur.com/gallery/EEdQg

I laughed far, far too hard at this.

Oh, and if you ever design your own machine gun, don't model it after this monstrosity, unless being outgunned by Lee-Enfields and semi-autos is your kink.

[Purpelia]

Random question time.

Given that all of the safety problems on open bolt SMG's like the MP40 boil down to the gun accidentally chambering a round and than going out control as a result why didn't people just install a magazine cutoff? It strikes me that this would be the perfect safety mechanism for guns of that type. But nobody did that.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

My mad firearms ideas I was having at the age of 10 worked better. :3
SAW's with 200 rds helical magazines and C96's with a curved mag over the pistol itself feeding downwards, with mag cutoffs every 5 rds <.< >.>
But even they are less purply than :purp:

[Purpelia]

My mad firearms ideas I was having at the age of 10 worked better. :3
SAW's with 200 rds helical magazines and C96's with a curved mag over the pistol itself feeding downwards, with mag cutoffs every 5 rds <.< >.>
But even they are less purply than urp:

I don't really see why you are mocking this. Disabling unwanted feeding would be a genuinely good safety mechanism for an open bolt gun. It would ensure that even if the gun slams shut on accident it can't feed or fire a round.