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by Ichoria » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:13 pm
Celitannia wrote:International League.
by Celitannia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:18 pm
by EstRADia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:20 pm
by Gatito » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:21 pm
by Ichoria » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:27 pm
Celitannia wrote:Implying that the United Nations is not an understanding of some sort?
by Celitannia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:36 pm
by Raventsvo » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:36 pm
Al Imaru wrote:Podgotov'te svoy anys dlya Vtorzheniya? And what does that mean? The only word I know in that is для, which means for. The rest is nonsense, just as he promised.
by Celitannia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:54 pm
by Greater New Poland » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:11 pm
Kathmandue wrote:New World Management
by Greater New Poland » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:13 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.
It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.
I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.
And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.
So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.
That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:15 pm
Greater New Poland wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.
It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.
I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.
And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.
So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.
That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.
I personally disagree with this, since this would mean like smaller nation's like myself will be at an disadvantage. Also, what will you do if in the future a larger nation arrives and wanted to be a part of this "UNSC"?
by Greater New Poland » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:52 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:Greater New Poland wrote:I personally disagree with this, since this would mean like smaller nation's like myself will be at an disadvantage. Also, what will you do if in the future a larger nation arrives and wanted to be a part of this "UNSC"?
You disagree with the existence of an UN? A UN would be literally the only thing that would allow your nation to have at least a vague say in international matters - you're already at an disadvantage simply due to your size.
And our UN will act act similarly to the real life UN in terms of memberships. Nations that will join the map in the future will automatically become UN members.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:53 pm
Greater New Poland wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:You disagree with the existence of an UN? A UN would be literally the only thing that would allow your nation to have at least a vague say in international matters - you're already at an disadvantage simply due to your size.
And our UN will act act similarly to the real life UN in terms of memberships. Nations that will join the map in the future will automatically become UN members.
I agree with a UN, I just don't agree with a security council in the UN
by Celitannia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:55 pm
by Tracian Empire » Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:01 am
Celitannia wrote:The veto is essential to the UN existing, honestly.
by Greater New Poland » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Greater New Poland wrote:I agree with a UN, I just don't agree with a security council in the UN
Unfortunately, it's unrealistic not to have one. Like Estradia said, our UN should have its downfalls too, and the presence of the Security Council will be one. But we might not have the veto power.
by Tracian Empire » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:04 am
Greater New Poland wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:Unfortunately, it's unrealistic not to have one. Like Estradia said, our UN should have its downfalls too, and the presence of the Security Council will be one. But we might not have the veto power.
I think that the UN should not have a security council, but instead there's just a general assembly. Instead, what we can have is that everyone gets a vote in the general assembly, but bigger nations like you and Ichoria get 2 or 3 votes instead of one. Also bigger nations get to have a veto vote, where if 2 bigger nations disagree with the current notion they would be able to veto it and make it not pass through. I would elaborate more, but I'm out right now and I'll do it later
by Celitannia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:31 am
by Tracian Empire » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:33 am
Celitannia wrote:No veto, no membership.
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