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Should College Be Tution Free?

Yes! of course, we need to let students learn, no matter how rich or poor
12
75%
No! you know how much taxes that is?!
2
13%
What? who needs college anyways?
0
No votes
No, but there shoudn't be any student debt
2
13%
 
Total votes : 16

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Puczovska
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Founded: Apr 02, 2017
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Postby Puczovska » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:22 pm

Minthas wrote:
Puczovska wrote:IN PUCZOVSKA, KIDS DRINK FORM AN EARLY AGE! IT PUTS HAIRS ON YOUR CHEST AND MAKES YOU GROW STRONG! GLORY TO PUCZOVSKA!

*hands everyone some Zukal vodka, the finest vodka in Puczovska*

*spits vodka out* I can't even imagine how bad the other Puczovsk vodkas will taste.

Well, that is Zukal Charni Mark vodka (40% ABV), here, have some Zukal Zolty Mark vodka (50% ABV)
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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:23 pm

Puczovska wrote:
Minthas wrote:*spits vodka out* I can't even imagine how bad the other Puczovsk vodkas will taste.

Well, that is Zukal Charni Mark vodka (40% ABV), here, have some Zukal Zolty Mark vodka (50% ABV)

Vodka in GSR is 120 proof!

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Minthas
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Postby Minthas » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:23 pm

The Global Socialist Republic wrote:
Minthas wrote:sounds good. but i would add:

4. A nation must make a tally of the forces that will be used for this war. Every time an action is taken, both sides lose a certain amount of vehicles or troops, depending on the action taken


Yes, a limit, but I did propose no nuclear weapons though... what do you think?

yeah, no nuclear weapons.
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Panama Coalition
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Postby Panama Coalition » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:23 pm

Necerierra wrote:Treaty of Godmodding-Repeal

1. No unrealistic amount of soldiers and troops
2. No unprovoked nukes
3. the violation of this will be declared invalid and null

Signed,
Alliances


A draft, make a work on them.

I want to sleep.

I agree point 1 and 3. In the point 2 can say "if you is attacked with nuclear weapons you can decide if use nukes or no. Its the only option for use nukes. (Or a alien superpower attack you :rofl: )

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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:24 pm

Did someone actually vote on their d*ck

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Friently
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Founded: May 26, 2017
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Postby Friently » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:24 pm

Necerierra wrote:
Spiritual Lyrical Individual Miracles wrote:I propose we have a monthly drinking night. We bring all the booze we have, relax after a long month, and chill out.

And make another rebellion after some king dead because of drunk von friently? no

That was actually SLIM, thinking he hit a Naz-ghul
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Panama Coalition
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Postby Panama Coalition » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:25 pm

Spiritual Lyrical Individual Miracles wrote:I propose we have a monthly drinking night. We bring all the booze we have, relax after a long month, and chill out.

I agree.

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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:26 pm

Minthas wrote:
The Global Socialist Republic wrote:
Yes, a limit, but I did propose no nuclear weapons though... what do you think?

yeah, no nuclear weapons.

I guess you missed, we actually talked about godmoding already

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Friently
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Postby Friently » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:28 pm

Ka Na wrote:
Necerierra wrote:Treaty of Godmodding-Repeal

1. No unrealistic amount of soldiers and troops
2. No unprovoked nukes
3. the violation of this will be declared invalid and null

Signed,
Alliances


A draft, make a work on them.

I want to sleep.
Friently wrote:I propose a law to ban godmoding,

Godmoding to be defined by several things,
1. Army size: Armies will only be allowed to be X% size of the population, relative to how their nation works, Severely militarised nations can get 10% of the populations, miliary focused nations but not entirely 5%,peacefull focused nations with a regular army 1-5% peacefull nations with only a defensive army <0.5%
2. Exceptions to the godmoding law: Some godmoding should be allowed, I.E. cases where people do not want to be involved in war but get attacked, can godmode in a defensive way (impenetrable shields for instance), the second they go offensive, set one step forward they lose their protection and do get involved
3. Realism: you will have to split your forces and cannot send 1 millio tanks ,you simply cannot have that much tanks, no matter if you have 5 million soldiers to man them, and if you would do that that means you do not have ANY other forces.

Someone something to add?


Theses both sound gut to me. Might be hard to enforce though.

We will enforce it by getting all the major nations of the rMB to sign it, meaning that they recognize its legitimacy, so that if a nation godmodes maliciously that all their arguments, troops, actions become null and void immediatly and that if the victor annexes them that it is recognized to be canon.
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Ka Na
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Founded: Feb 02, 2017
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Postby Ka Na » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Friently wrote:
Ka Na wrote:
Theses both sound gut to me. Might be hard to enforce though.

We will enforce it by getting all the major nations of the rMB to sign it, meaning that they recognize its legitimacy, so that if a nation godmodes maliciously that all their arguments, troops, actions become null and void immediatly and that if the victor annexes them that it is recognized to be canon.


Still sounds hard to enforce, but I'm down.
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Minthas
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Postby Minthas » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Friently wrote:
Ka Na wrote:
Theses both sound gut to me. Might be hard to enforce though.

We will enforce it by getting all the major nations of the rMB to sign it, meaning that they recognize its legitimacy, so that if a nation godmodes maliciously that all their arguments, troops, actions become null and void immediatly and that if the victor annexes them that it is recognized to be canon.

I completely agree and vote to ratify the treaty.
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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Friently wrote:
Ka Na wrote:
Theses both sound gut to me. Might be hard to enforce though.

We will enforce it by getting all the major nations of the rMB to sign it, meaning that they recognize its legitimacy, so that if a nation godmodes maliciously that all their arguments, troops, actions become null and void immediatly and that if the victor annexes them that it is recognized to be canon.

It need to be enforced, some one should write the law

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Aldion
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Founded: Apr 28, 2017
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Postby Aldion » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:33 pm

Friently wrote:
Ka Na wrote:
Theses both sound gut to me. Might be hard to enforce though.

We will enforce it by getting all the major nations of the rMB to sign it, meaning that they recognize its legitimacy, so that if a nation godmodes maliciously that all their arguments, troops, actions become null and void immediatly and that if the victor annexes them that it is recognized to be canon.

Fukk Yass

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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:33 pm

I'll be back, in like 8 mins? keep the converstaion going please

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Minthas
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Postby Minthas » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:33 pm

Free tuition for any institute of higher education is a terrible idea. It's irresponsible and would bring down any economy.
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Puczovska
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Postby Puczovska » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:36 pm

Minthas wrote:Free tuition for any institute of higher education is a terrible idea. It's irresponsible and would bring down any economy.

but where it says:
"Should College Be Tution Free?
You may select 1 option
Yes! of course, we need to let students learn, no matter how rich or poor" Speaks to my inner communist.
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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:37 pm

Minthas wrote:Free tuition for any institute of higher education is a terrible idea. It's irresponsible and would bring down any economy.

You can always debate that!

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Ka Na
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Postby Ka Na » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:38 pm

Minthas wrote:Free tuition for any institute of higher education is a terrible idea. It's irresponsible and would bring down any economy.

I do agree that 100% free tuition is bad but not becuse of economy.

I believe the the tuition shold be kept as low as possible with 50-70% going to the university to get better supplies and hire better teachers, and the rest shold go to the government to further education. So then when your paying a low amount of money you know it's just going to were you spend it and can feel good about paying it.
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Friently
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Postby Friently » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:39 pm

Ill try to write the law in a moment
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Panama Coalition
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Postby Panama Coalition » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:40 pm

In my real country (capitalist neoliberal economy) pre-primary education, primary, secondary, technical superior and university are free. Of course there are private educational centers. But that has worked. In the Panama Coalition that also happens. It is not crazy.
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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:41 pm

We need to take the summit picture? like this:

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/int ... d810222686

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Ka Na
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Postby Ka Na » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:46 pm

The Global Socialist Republic wrote:We need to take the summit picture? like this:

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/int ... d810222686

I don't know if that's possible but it sure whold be cool.

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The Global Socialist Republic
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Postby The Global Socialist Republic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:48 pm

The summit is taking a break. You can now go wander off or stay in lounge room, we'll continue this at the after party.

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Friently
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Postby Friently » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:18 pm

(Treaty of Movebo Deus Modus will suffice, or Treaty of MoDeMoSaFa in even shorter, or Treaty of MoDeMO in obscenely short, for the simpel minded people)

*Law maker: Bryan von friently VII, Emperor of the Grand Friently Empire


Treaty of Movebo Deus Modus et Solve Fasciculos

This treaty will disallow godmoding and reset buttoning in official RMB RP as well as canonizing events not specified as being non-canon.


Recognises the threat of malicious godmoding and reset button-ing on the fun and seriousness of RP
Defines godmoding as:
An unwanted way to gain supreme abilities far beyond the capabilities of a nation, attacking others with godlike abilities where the oponent can do nothing against, ignore defences and oponent armies. All in an attempt to troll, win, feel good, be a toughguy, or just to be a dick.

Defines reset buttoning as:
a way to reset past events in an attempt te undo the mistake one made or to undo the victory of an oponent or one self.

Makes all RP that has not been defined as non-canon canon in that the effects are lasting and will be recorded throughout history.

The laws on this matter will contain several rules to make RP-ing more serious and less horrific.
1. Army size:
Armies will only be allowed to be X% size of the population, relative to how their nation works, Severely militarised nations can get 10% of the populations, miliary focused nations but not entirely 5%,peacefull focused nations with a regular army 1-5% peacefull nations with only a defensive army <0.5%
2. Exceptions to the godmoding law:
Some godmoding should be allowed, I.E. cases where people do not want to be involved in war but get attacked, can godmode in a defensive way (impenetrable shields for instance), the second they go offensive, set one step forward they lose their protection and do get involved
3. Realism:
you will have to split your forces and cannot send 1 millio tanks ,you simply cannot have that much tanks, no matter if you have 5 million soldiers to man them, and if you would do that that means you do not have ANY other forces.
4. Tally:
A nation should but is not forced to make a tally of the forces that will be used for this war. Every time an action is taken, both sides lose a certain amount of vehicles or troops, depending on the action taken (not forced because that will take along goddamn time)
5. Violators
Violators of this treaty will have their godmode posts been declared null and void, meaning that any post containing malicious godmoding is not recognized and does not exist, only non-godmode posts will be accepted.
6. Judgement:
The severity and judgement on whether something is godmoding will be delegated to several people to be added in the final version of the treaty.

This all to ensure good RP, as less malicious godmoding as possible and the reduction of godmode based spam and a base for peace.
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✠ "It May not be the friendly way, but it sure is the Friently way" ✠
-Bryan von Friently VII, Emperor of the Grand Friently Empire


Head RP Moderator of the TNP RMB Roleplay Community

I do not use any ns stats, issue results mean nothing.

Friently represents several but not all of my political opinions

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Friently
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Postby Friently » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:20 pm

1: I will walk the flat nosed, black faced creature that is my pug now.

2: Look at the treaty and give yer opinion, please put spoiler around it to save space

3: Check for grammar stuff plx

4: something something i dont rememeber
✠ "It May not be the friendly way, but it sure is the Friently way" ✠
-Bryan von Friently VII, Emperor of the Grand Friently Empire


Head RP Moderator of the TNP RMB Roleplay Community

I do not use any ns stats, issue results mean nothing.

Friently represents several but not all of my political opinions

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