Petition to Outlaw the Capitalism Now! Party

[New Hyannis]

Let us go down the list one at a time, shall we? Yes? Excellent.

It's a useless party with less than 1% support....

No party which gives voice to the views and desires of so much as one person is useless.

It is willing to use violence to bring back capitalism...

As it should be. Capitalism is one of the true guarantors of liberty. To restrict the right of the people to trade goods and services freely is the act of a tyrant.

it wants to restore the very thing that many Valgorans risked their lives to get rid of...

The fact that a good many people support an injustice does not make opposition to that injustice somehow wrong.

[Valgora]

It is willing to use violence to bring back capitalism...

As it should be. Capitalism is one of the true guarantors of liberty. To restrict the right of the people to trade goods and services freely is the act of a tyrant.

it wants to restore the very thing that many Valgorans risked their lives to get rid of...

The fact that a good many people support an injustice does not make opposition to that injustice somehow wrong.

Capitalism is not one of the true guarantors of liberty. Capitalism led to a corrupt government that cared only for the rich. And you clearly don't see the high amount of civil freedoms the Valgorans have. Three years ago, the revolution freed Valgorans from the evils of capitalism.

[Ejutla]

STATEMENT FROM THE SECRETARY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MOCTEZUMA ORTEGA IÑÁRRITU

The Socialist People's Republic of Ejutla strongly urges the banning of any and all political parties which advocates for capitalism. Capitalism is an inherently evil economic system which uses exploitation to concentrate wealth into the hands of a small number of people, who then use their wealth to obtain even more wealth, at the expense of the environment, and the exploited peoples. Capitalism has consistently left a trail of death and destruction in every land which is infested by it, and like any virus, should be swiftly and thoroughly exterminated.

[New Hyannis]

Capitalism is not one of the true guarantors of liberty. Capitalism led to a corrupt government that cared only for the rich. And you clearly don't see the high amount of civil freedoms the Valgorans have. Three years ago, the revolution freed Valgorans from the evils of capitalism.

If they are not free to make their own mistakes and choices, to sell their own labor, then they are not free. Capitalism is often blamed for the crimes of corporatism, in which companies push the legislature to pass laws which benefit them and harm their competitors. This is not capitalism, but collusion and corruption resulting from a self-serving political class. It has happened many times, largely blamed on capitalism by people who are greedy, or who simply do not understand what capitalism and free market economics are.

If you seek to restrict those who disagree with you from speaking their minds, you will make violence unavoidable, and when it happens, those who rise against you will not stand alone.

[Valgora]

Capitalism is not one of the true guarantors of liberty. Capitalism led to a corrupt government that cared only for the rich. And you clearly don't see the high amount of civil freedoms the Valgorans have. Three years ago, the revolution freed Valgorans from the evils of capitalism.

If they are not free to make their own mistakes and choices, to sell their own labor, then they are not free. Capitalism is often blamed for the crimes of corporatism, in which companies push the legislature to pass laws which benefit them and harm their competitors. This is not capitalism, but collusion and corruption resulting from a self-serving political class. It has happened many times, largely blamed on capitalism by people who are greedy, or who simply do not understand what capitalism and free market economics are.

If you seek to restrict those who disagree with you from speaking their minds, you will make violence unavoidable, and when it happens, those who rise against you will not stand alone.

Capitalism allows corporatism to happen. Capitalism allows and facilitates the oppression of the workers and anyone who isn't wealthy. Here, the workers and the citizens have control because we took it from the wealthy. And again, you are unable to see the high amounts of civil freedoms Valgorans have.


OOC:
Jesus Fucking Christ
81 votes in the poll?!
I've seen nations who had elections with less votes than that.

[New Hyannis]

Capitalism allows corporatism to happen. Capitalism allows and facilitates the oppression of the workers and anyone who isn't wealthy. Here, the workers and the citizens have control because we took it from the wealthy. And again, you are unable to see the high amounts of civil freedoms Valgorans have.

Corruption in government allows corporatism to happen. If there are no corrupt officials, or rather, if corrupt officials are punished, corporatism is impossible, and wealth expands naturally leading to increased wealth for all. No, people will not all be equally wealthy, but in a Socialist system it tends to be the same, the difference being the political class have immense wealth, lavishing themselves with rich lifestyles while everybody else is equally impoverished and destitute.

In a Socialist system all you have done is concentrate power in the hands of the political elite, which is the real goal of Socialist thinking anyway.

Civil freedoms are meaningless if not paired with economic freedoms. The ability to sign contracts, to independently buy and sell labor, and to dispose of their production as they wish is integral to liberty and freedom of the individual in society. Further, their civil freedoms are obviously meaningless if one of these, in this case, freedom of assembly, may be suppressed because their neighbors lack the mental and emotional fortitude to hear contrary opinions.

If you seek to suppress the voices of those who dare to speak against you, then others will take steps to counteract your tyranny.

(OOC: Bit of a hot button issue.)

[Valgora]

Capitalism allows corporatism to happen. Capitalism allows and facilitates the oppression of the workers and anyone who isn't wealthy. Here, the workers and the citizens have control because we took it from the wealthy. And again, you are unable to see the high amounts of civil freedoms Valgorans have.

Corruption in government allows corporatism to happen. If there are no corrupt officials, or rather, if corrupt officials are punished, corporatism is impossible, and wealth expands naturally leading to increased wealth for all. No, people will not all be equally wealthy, but in a Socialist system it tends to be the same, the difference being the political class have immense wealth, lavishing themselves with rich lifestyles while everybody else is equally impoverished and destitute.

In a Socialist system all you have done is concentrate power in the hands of the political elite, which is the real goal of Socialist thinking anyway.

Civil freedoms are meaningless if not paired with economic freedoms. The ability to sign contracts, to independently buy and sell labor, and to dispose of their production as they wish is integral to liberty and freedom of the individual in society. Further, their civil freedoms are obviously meaningless if one of these, in this case, freedom of assembly, may be suppressed because their neighbors lack the mental and emotional fortitude to hear contrary opinions.

If you seek to suppress the voices of those who dare to speak against you, then others will take steps to counteract your tyranny.

(OOC: Bit of a hot button issue.)

I'll start with the freedom of assembly. An example that should show you how much we care about civil freedoms: rioting is considered legal in Valgora, especially if loud metal music is playing.
Also, the majority of Valgorans do have the mental and emotional fortitude to hear contrary opinions and defend their own.

Another thing:
The goal of socialism is not to concentrate power in the hands of the political elite. And if you are accusing Valgora of doing that, I assure you we have not. And the political class doesn't have immense wealth, either.
In fact, government officials/politicians who break the law are subject to harsher punishments than the normal citizens. Also, corruption is either nonexistent or it is nearly nonexistent because the punishment for corruption is execution.

[New Hyannis]

Also, the majority of Valgorans do have the mental and emotional fortitude to hear contrary opinions and defend their own.

Yet they support the forcible silencing of those who disagree with their views. Their actions speak louder than their words.

The goal of socialism is not to concentrate power in the hands of the political elite.

That is not the stated goal, but it is very much the objective. Look at a majority of Socialist countries in the world, and you will see a political class who keep themselves and their families locked into power, and live very well indeed compared to the "equality" they insist upon for everybody else.

If you enforce this ban, the results will be inevitable. We have tried to warn you.

[Valgora]

Also, the majority of Valgorans do have the mental and emotional fortitude to hear contrary opinions and defend their own.

Yet they support the forcible silencing of those who disagree with their views. Their actions speak louder than their words.

The goal of socialism is not to concentrate power in the hands of the political elite.

That is not the stated goal, but it is very much the objective. Look at a majority of Socialist countries in the world, and you will see a political class who keep themselves and their families locked into power, and live very well indeed compared to the "equality" they insist upon for everybody else.

If you enforce this ban, the results will be inevitable. We have tried to warn you.

OOC: Try to keep IRL references low because that couldn't fully work with my nation. Did you read my factbooks?

[Arctica-Aleutia]

Greetings from Wyatt Wizzard II, President of The Free Land of Arctica-Aleutia
I have written to give my humble opinion on the proposed ban on the Capitalism Now! Party in Valgora. Although it would seem that the vast majority of your citizens support the move, it would be a severe limit to political freedom and set a dangerous precedent for future leaders who may not be as respective of democracy as you are. Even if there is only a tiny part of your population that supports capitalism, it would be an injustice to deny them the freedom to express that belief. Although my nation's economy is primarily capitalist, I understand and sympathize with you when you point out how the system oppressed your people in the past. Still, it is a legitimate system that, in many forms, advocates a world of freedom, and in some nations (including my own, I would hope) has achieved that. Most people who advocate it are not greedy businessman; they are regular workers like the ones you see every day, who happen to favour a different system. Those that support capitalism just to further their own greed are just the ones that true capitalists would shun.
I do, however, share your concern that the Party may turn violent. If this is the case, I encourage you to take action to prevent this, while still protecting the rights of peaceful advocates of capitalism. However, I would also like to point out that the Capitalism Now! Party exists in nations other than Valgora (even in Arctica-Aleutia) and has sworn against violence in most nations. If your country's branch of it resorted to violence, they would find little support internationally, and would be denounced by capitalists and socialists alike.
It should be fairly easy to tell if the Party has turned violent. Since parties in Valgora don't nominate candidates, they are more like discussion and awareness groups of like-minded people, so if they start preaching violence, they are crossing the line into terrorism.

In conclusion, I believe you should allow the Capitalism Now! Party to exist, but take action against it if it becomes a violent/terrorist organization in the future. Think about the dangers of suppressing an ideology, and remember that, regardless of what people say about one system or another, capitalists and socialists are both people, and there is no reason that countries that chose different systems cannot coexist.

May capitalists and socialists one day live in peace.

(OOC: Sorry if this ended up a bit rambling or something. I sort of decided what to write as I went.)

[Pherdistan]

Statement of the Communist Party of the Ferdistani Federation

The party implores the Valgoran people not to prohibit political activity based solely on its source, as it would be contrary to democratic values, and we assure the Valgorans that, so long as they maintain class consciousness, they will not fall prey to fascist propaganda, such as that distributed by vile states like New Hyannis, who encourage and promote violent terrorism against democratic order.

As such, we ask the people, ponies, and other sentients of Valgora to not sign this referendum-petition, but do likewise encourage the Valgoran government to respond to anti-democratic violence with a firm hoof, and preserve the workers' paradise against the lies and deceptions of the bourgeois fascist elitists who seek to thwart the popular will.

Signed,

Sparking Hammer, General Secretary

President of the Ferdistani Federation

[Arctica-Aleutia]

Greetings from Wyatt Wizzard II, President of The Free Land of Arctica-Aleutia
This is a follow-up to my previous message. Although I am sure that the Valgoran government has investigated the potential threat of Capitalism Now! and shared its findings with the public, has the media allowed the Party to give a public response to the issue? What do we know about its leaders?

[Valgora]

Greetings from Wyatt Wizzard II, President of The Free Land of Arctica-Aleutia
This is a follow-up to my previous message. Although I am sure that the Valgoran government has investigated the potential threat of Capitalism Now! and shared its findings with the public, has the media allowed the Party to give a public response to the issue? What do we know about its leaders?

Dear Wyatt Wizzard II,

No, the party has not given a public response to the issue. The reason why is because all government officials and politicians were told that they could not give their own opinions about the petition. The CNP has made public responses in the past about past petitions. Even Timotei refused to give his opinion on the situation when asked. The CNP leaders have their opinions and it's easy to guess what the opinions are.

Sincerely,
Pörröinen Eyvindursdottir, Minister of International Relations

[Ankuran]

Jean-Michele Voyageur, Ankuran's Minister of Foreign affairs, takes a heavy seat behind his desk, the soft cushions hissing slightly under the man's great weight. His secretary hands him dossier after dossier, briefing him curtly on each one before placing it on the red wood of the desk. After a sizable pile has accumulated, he raises a hand to halt her.

"Is there a problem, monsieur?

"This party--this Capitalism Now! movement--of Valgora? The government claims they are not above using violence to further their own political agenda. Surely the Valgoran government has some proof to substantiate these claims? Is the party's agenda inherently violent, or is it the work of some sect within the party? Does the violence of a few justify ending the movement entirely?"

The secretary's eyes wander the room, hoping desperately the various artifacts and books and more were capable of giving her an answer to these inquiries. On the one hand, Ankuran had long maintained a state-controlled economy; on the other, however, the suppression of an entire political party on unsubstantiated claims is a case of clear-cut fascism. Before she could voice these concerns, however, the minister continued.

"Nevermind, this is my duty to decide," he intoned inwardly, eyes distant. "Please investigate these claims of radicalism, then return to me. I shall withhold my decision until more facts come to light. And, as always, I appreciate your counsel."

The minister's secretary dismisses herself with a curt nod.

[Valgora]

Jean-Michele Voyageur, Ankuran's Minister of Foreign affairs, takes a heavy seat behind his desk, the soft cushions hissing slightly under the man's great weight. His secretary hands him dossier after dossier, briefing him curtly on each one before placing it on the red wood of the desk. After a sizable pile has accumulated, he raises a hand to halt her.

"Is there a problem, monsieur?

"This party--this Capitalism Now! movement--of Valgora? The government claims they are not above using violence to further their own political agenda. Surely the Valgoran government has some proof to substantiate these claims? Is the party's agenda inherently violent, or is it the work of some sect within the party? Does the violence of a few justify ending the movement entirely?"

The secretary's eyes wander the room, hoping desperately the various artifacts and books and more were capable of giving her an answer to these inquiries. On the one hand, Ankuran had long maintained a state-controlled economy; on the other, however, the suppression of an entire political party on unsubstantiated claims is a case of clear-cut fascism. Before she could voice these concerns, however, the minister continued.

"Nevermind, this is my duty to decide," he intoned inwardly, eyes distant. "Please investigate these claims of radicalism, then return to me. I shall withhold my decision until more facts come to light. And, as always, I appreciate your counsel."

The minister's secretary dismisses herself with a curt nod.

OOC:
I'm not sure if I should respond to this like I'm Valgora, or if I should just wait until something more like a sent message comes from Ankuran.

[Lardingo]

Foreign Affairs Department of Lardingo
At this time the government of Larding is not considering diplomat action against Valgora, as it seems the government of Valgora is doing it's best to act democratically in this situation. However we would like evidence that the CNP party has been acting violently.

Signed, Fred P. Harrison
Executive of Foreign Affairs

[Valgora]

Foreign Affairs Department of Lardingo
At this time the government of Larding is not considering diplomat action against Valgora, as it seems the government of Valgora is doing it's best to act democratically in this situation. However we would like evidence that the CNP party has been acting violently.

Signed, Fred P. Harrison
Executive of Foreign Affairs

To: Fred P. Harrison, Executive of Foreign Affairs
From: Pörröinen Eyvindursdottir, Minister of International Relations

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Dear Fred,

I would first like to thank you for realizing that the Valgoran government is trying to be democratic about the situation. There are a few counter-revolutionaries who either are or part of the CNP; however, the entire party isn't violent but there have been many cases where they were touching the line without crossing it.

Sincerely,
Pörröinen
ᛈᛟᚱᚱᛟᛁᚾᛖᚾ

[Palmyrion]

OFFICE OF THE MONARCH The Benevolent Throne Royal Citadel, Benevolencia, C.D. Royal Palmyrian Commonwealth Telefax: (078) 598-4917 local 1984 E-mail: alexander2@monarch.gov.rpc ENCRYPTION: Secure Hash Algorithm-2, 512-bit 30 March 2017 TO: Chairperson of the Capitalism Now! Party Dear Chairperson, Greetings, your honor! I am Lakán Alexander II, of the Royal Palmyrian Commonwealth. It is with deep sadness that I witness a socialist country branding a capitalist party and a few other parties as fascists, but they are the real fascists when they try to curb free and responsible assembly and speech and take away from the people the power of free enterprise to better help one's siblings in God. I wonder how the Valgorans have lasted this long with socialism when it's bound to fail in the long run. While all of this is happening, we are going to offer you political asylum here in the Royal Commonwealth. It is just right that we protect free and responsible speech and assembly from those who try to take it (because, trust me, somebody tried to ban one of my special forces soldiers when he ranted about socialism). I am not trying to handwave away the existence of corruption in the government, especially in capitalist states; while Palmyrion is a capitalist state, and does indeed have corruption, and corporations violate the rules every now and then, anyone whosoever gives and/or accepts bribes - they rarely get away with it - gets locked up in jail; corporations that violate environmental, wage/salary, and workplace safety codes get a hefty penalty tax so that they suffer loss in profits, giving them incentive to actually changing their ways to follow ethical business practices. Besides, all that the socialists really want is to concentrate economic power to the political few (the government), and I know of a good lot of countries who tried practicing socialism but had to revert a bit back to capitalism (Warsaw Pact, China, Vietnam). Pretty soon, we'd have Valgora handing out vital positions in state-owned businesses to cronies and "trusted citizens" - case on point, socialism is a gateway to crony capitalism. Our doors are open for you to freely come to the Royal Commonwealth for political asylum. We expect your most esteemed reply as soon as you can conveniently respond to our request. Sincerely Yours, [digitally signed] Lakán Alexander II Lakán of the Royal Commonwealth of Palmyrion Commander-in-Chief of the Palmyrian Royal Armed Forces High Steward of the Palmyrian Dominion

[Volitopia]

...According to opinion polls, the vast majority of Valgorans (greater than 99%) hate the CNP. This amount of hatred and the growing number of petitions to outlaw the CNP has caused the government to decide that if a petition gains 70% of the population's signatures, then the CNP will be outlawed. Within a few hours, 1 million signatures are already on the petition.

OOC: Wait, so it's less than a 1% party? About how many people is that in your nation?

Much of the international community has voiced their opinions on the petition, with the most outspoken being against the outlawing of the CNP despite what the citizens say. A poll shows that the majority support the petition with a few of that majority supporting raising the required 70% to something higher.

The government of the Derpy Technocratic Democracy of Valgora is not supporting any argument for or against this petition and most government officials refuse to talk about it. One official was willing to let us know that the government is unsure of what to do because both options are anti-democratic.

Clearing point for those who are sending press reports: The CITIZENS of Valgora are petitioning the government, and an overwhelming majority say yes. The government isn't trying to press this on. As stated, this is a tough place, as there are 2 options:
a) ignore the wills of the petitioning people (!) but protect the rights of the minority
b) crush those who are against the majority at a given time (!) but follow the wishes of the majority

Well, Valgora, good luck is all I can say.

-President Alexander of the Federated Republic of Volitopia

[Club-Penguin]

[Radimostan]

[quote=Valgora]According to opinion polls, the vast majority of Valgorans (greater than 99%)[/quote]

OOC:

If less than 1% of Valgorian population will vote for the "Capitalism Party!" It is completely pointless to ban it.

[Volitopia]

According to opinion polls, the vast majority of Valgorans (greater than 99%)
OOC:If less than 1% of Valgorian population will vote for the "Capitalism Party!" It is completely pointless to ban it.

OOC: Same; wouldn't they simply "not count"? It really feels like it's lighting a furnace to burn a hair.

[La Habana Cuba]

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The Derpy Technocratic Democracy of Valgora

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Due to the increasing hatred for the Capitalism Now! Party of Valgora and the increasing number of petitions to outlaw the "party", the government of the Derpy Technocratic Democracy of Valgora has decided to let the citizens of Valgora decide.

If the petition reaches 70% of the population's signatures, which is about 28 million, then the government will outlaw the Capitalism Now! Party.

The government is awaiting international reactions.

LHC Cuban Minister of Foreign Affairs, Bruno Eduardo Rodriguez Parrilla:
Member of the LHC Cuban National Assembly Parliament CNAP.
Member of the Politburo and of the central committee of the
Democratic Communist Socialist Party of La Habana Cuba.
Member of the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution CDRs.
legally registered independent non governmental organizations.

Compañeras, Compañeros, and Comrades of Valgora and the world, he led me borrow this part of his reaction speech. Wasn't that nice of him? He is such a nice guy. President Raúl Castro Ruz is working on his reaction speech to the Valgora Petition, to outaw the Capitalism Now! Party of Valgora. Bear with us for a few days while he works on his speech. Since the death of his brother Fidel, he has not been the same. also very busy with matters of state. We hope and trust you understand.

Head of State Fidel Castro Ruz.
Head of Government President Raúl Castro Ruz.
LHC Cuban State Council of Ministers Collective.
Democratic Communist Socialist Republic of La Habana Cuba.

[Agenca]

Agenca believes in allowing private ownership businesses. While our government does provide many social services, almost all businesses are privately owned.

[La Habana Cuba]

:
Dear Compañeras, Compañeros, and Comrades of Valgora and the world. As fellow democratic people and governments, we would like to share with you our experience. It reminds us of when we did our own petition amendment to the constitution, to declare socialism irrevocable. 8,198,237 La Habana Cuban eligible voters, signed their names with their identification id card numbers, to ensure the honesty, integrity and democratic process of the votes, against potential fraud, by a few anti social, anti democratic elements.

8,198,237 eligible LHC Cuban voters out of 8,250,00 eligible voters, signed the petition in support of the constitutional amendment. With 99.37 2569 6969 6970 70 % support. Against 51,736 eligible voters, who were too sick and incapacitated too vote, 00.62 7430 3030 3030 30 % . A similar result that just happens in our democratic elections.

The signatures were collected by the legally registered independent non governmental committees for the defense of the revolution CDRs. To ensure non governmental, interference, persuasion, fraud and bias.

I was not elected by the LHC National Assembly Parliament CNAP, to restore capitalism to La Habana Cuba. While we have made some reforms, and will continue to make some reforms. It is to strengthen socialism and the irrevocable revolution. As stated in our constitutional amendment. Supported by the overwhelming democratic votes of the people. As ratified by all CNAP MPs.

We hope and trust, we have shared and given you our experience in this process. We hope and trust the people of Valgora will outdo us in their support of their petition, to declare the ban on the anti democratic, Capitalism Now Party CNP.

Head of State Comandante en Jefe Fidel.
President Raúl Castro Ruz.
LHC Cuban State Council of Ministers Collective.
Democratic Communist Socialist Republic of La Habana Cuba.

The constitutional petition amendment supported by the people, was called for by our Head of State, our Comandante en Jefe of the revolution, and yours, Fidel: