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Vetalia
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Postby Vetalia » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:34 am

Of course. Law is a profession, and a highly paid one at that. Vetalian lawyers are some of the best in the world when it comes to business law, and they're accorded a high level of respect as a result of their abilities.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:36 am

DeusII wrote:All lawyers are government employees and thus are not corrupted.


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Postby Greater Tern » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:53 am

Maraque wrote:When they do their job properly, yes.

When they use sleaze ball tactics and try to distort the truth in their clients favor just to win a case knowing they're not engaging in proper justice, no.

The latter would also be against the law. There is a code of ethics lawyers have to pledge to, and breaking it is not a good idea.


Lawyers in Greater Tern are treated similarly.

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Postby Grittonia » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:57 am

Lawyers are seen as the moneysuckers of the society.

Lawyers who only deal with foreigners are highly respected as they suck the money out of non-Grittonians.
Lawyers who deal with everyone are somwhat respected as they suck the money out of non-Grittonians but also out of Grittonians.
Lawyers who only deal with Grittonians are not respected as they suck the money out of Grittonians, however these lawyers often ask only 50% of what others ask and thus they are not hated and quite popular.
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Postby WokaStates » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 am

Fortunately, the cases of corruption in The States of Woka are very few. So far, the Lawyers are doing their jobs very well.

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Postby Duroland » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 am

Greater Rhodes wrote:As most other professions, the respect and honour of one's peers is derived from merit and if they display sprezzatura and gentlemanly conduct.


What's sprezzatura ? :blink:

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Postby Greater Tern » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:09 pm

Duroland wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:As most other professions, the respect and honour of one's peers is derived from merit and if they display sprezzatura and gentlemanly conduct.


What's sprezzatura ? :blink:


Sprezzatura is the art of doing a difficult task so gracefully, that it looks effortless.

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Postby Duroland » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:26 pm

Greater Tern wrote:
Duroland wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:As most other professions, the respect and honour of one's peers is derived from merit and if they display sprezzatura and gentlemanly conduct.


What's sprezzatura ? :blink:


Sprezzatura is the art of doing a difficult task so gracefully, that it looks effortless.

The Commonwealth of Greater Tern requests that the government of Duroland should use Google to look for definitions instead of broadcasting their ignorance to the whole world.


I just gave you the occasion of broadcasting your kindness to the whole world. You shoud be grateful.

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Postby Greater Tern » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:37 pm

Duroland wrote:
Greater Tern wrote:
Duroland wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:As most other professions, the respect and honour of one's peers is derived from merit and if they display sprezzatura and gentlemanly conduct.


What's sprezzatura ? :blink:


Sprezzatura is the art of doing a difficult task so gracefully, that it looks effortless.

The Commonwealth of Greater Tern requests that the government of Duroland should use Google to look for definitions instead of broadcasting their ignorance to the whole world.


I just gave you the occasion of broadcasting your kindness to the whole world. You shoud be grateful.

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Postby Angleter » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:02 pm

To become a lawyer is one of the highest achievements in Angleter. However, corruption, as in all walks of life, is not tolerated.
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Postby Questers » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:07 pm

The shee of Albia wrote:All crime is juged by hypnotyseing the suposed gilty party to say if they comited the crime or not. Therefore, we have no need for lawyers and therefore none.
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Postby Sophisticism » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:25 pm

Talented and fair people, whether they are lawyers or taxi drivers, are respected.

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Postby Liberal-Finns » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:58 pm

The job of Lawyer is a very respected occupation in Liberal-Finns, with many being wealthy

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Postby La Habana » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:06 pm

Yes lawyers are respected here, but many of the well-educated people prefer to take care of their own legal affairs without a lawyer; there have been many famous (or infamous) trials where citizens have defended themselves in Court and won.
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Postby Frenca » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:12 pm

When they do their job properly and are truthful, they are respected .When they are corrupt or bribe judges, no.
People here do not like it when lawyers are corrupt, they are actually hanged after sensing corruption. Bribery, however, leads to a life sentence with no parole.
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Postby Maraque » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:13 pm

La Habana wrote:Yes lawyers are respected here, but many of the well-educated people prefer to take care of their own legal affairs without a lawyer; there have been many famous (or infamous) trials where citizens have defended themselves in Court and won.
Self representation is a common practice in the Kingdom as well.

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Postby Acciw » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:19 pm

Very.

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Shamanana
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Postby Shamanana » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:21 pm

you do not want to disrespect a lawyer
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Postby Rejistania » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:02 am

Lawyers are considered to be corrupt gits who are required when other corrupt gits (police, administration, big business) try to screw you blatantly.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:07 am

Maraque wrote:When they do their job properly, yes.

When they use sleaze ball tactics and try to distort the truth in their clients favor just to win a case knowing they're not engaging in proper justice, no.

The latter would also be against the law. There is a code of ethics lawyers have to pledge to, and breaking it is not a good idea.


^ this.

It is a quite similar policy and opinion in the Kingdom. As with most everything, we do not care for the tendency to issue blanket condemnations, instead prefering to judge on individual merit. Because a few of anything are bad, does not deterimine that all of the same are equally bad. That is lunacy.
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Postby Miraclia » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:20 am

There are no lawyers in Miraclia, so how can they be respected?

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Postby Neo Prutenia » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:03 pm

A proper Prut and Citizen defends himself before his peers and the laws alone, with his wits, knowledge and responsibility. There are no lawyers, although, a citizen can demand a legal advisor if he needs to justify himself before a court. Legal advisors are just what the names implies - people versed in the finer points of a specific set of laws, for example traffic or military laws, which are there to help out, if needed.

There is also a law which demands that the Judge, and any legal advisors involved in that specific case, may not be in any relationship or related to each other - either by blood, friendship, or any other criteria. So in almost all cases, the Legal Advisor provided to you is from another city, so that any form of corruption, bribes or manipulations of the court cannot happen from that source. If possible, the Judge in question doesn't even know if the accused has an advisor, and who this advisor is.
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Postby Hansia » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:15 pm

Lawyers in the Night Archduchy would not last long… The Archduchy is ruled by Vampire aristocracy that settle matters through duels to the death or by the order of a higher noble. The commoner human population usually settles problems by begging their local lord for support. If that should fail there is always the Shadow men that could be enticed to assassinate your rivals for a proper price…

I would say that a general no would be the answer….
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