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Theodosiya
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Postby Theodosiya » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:09 am

Might switch 5.56 with 7.62x39, just for extra pen. And instead of LMG and GPMG, it's GPMG & HMG, also, automatic shotguns and Grenade Launchers (AGL or UBGL). No APC, but HIFV and Tanks, support from 120mm mortars and 155mm howitzers, plus MLRS and Missiles. They won't be called engineers, though. Just sappers/breakthrough battalion.
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Crookfur
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:16 am

Theodosiya wrote:Might switch 5.56 with 7.62x39, just for extra pen. And instead of LMG and GPMG, it's GPMG & HMG, also, automatic shotguns and Grenade Launchers (AGL or UBGL). No APC, but HIFV and Tanks, support from 120mm mortars and 155mm howitzers, plus MLRS and Missiles. They won't be called engineers, though. Just sappers/breakthrough battalion.

Sappers still means engineer because the term dapper refers to someone who digs saps ie undermines of fortification walls...

If they have tanks and HIFVs then they have no real need for anything bigger than a LMG and lots of rockets.

You really aren't being particularly clear as to what these groups are for. Are they for actually breaching prepared defences? If they are then they need mine clearing and obstacle defeat systems. Now you could just stick mine plow and dozer blades on the tanks and tow line charge throwers (or something like carpet) behind any of the vehicles but you would still be lacking a fascine carrier...
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Lamoni
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Postby Lamoni » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:06 am

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This is a rare image of the General Motor's proposal for the XM1 Abrams MBT. I thought that you might enjoy seeing this.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:11 am

He's stark naked without special armour and sideskirts
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:14 am

he has special armor

waht he lacks is an actual gun and anything else cool

such is the fate of civilianized armour

e: at some point also it looks like mr. littlefield lost the stepladders on the turret

or the Army did back in the day when they put him up for sale

i still cant believe that dude got him for $40k or whatever tho that's pretty good deal

it would be amazing to be jacques littlefield irl even tho id be d e d
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Postby Allanea » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:54 am

Crookfur wrote:
Theodosiya wrote:Might switch 5.56 with 7.62x39, just for extra pen. And instead of LMG and GPMG, it's GPMG & HMG, also, automatic shotguns and Grenade Launchers (AGL or UBGL). No APC, but HIFV and Tanks, support from 120mm mortars and 155mm howitzers, plus MLRS and Missiles. They won't be called engineers, though. Just sappers/breakthrough battalion.

Sappers still means engineer because the term dapper refers to someone who digs saps ie undermines of fortification walls...

If they have tanks and HIFVs then they have no real need for anything bigger than a LMG and lots of rockets.

You really aren't being particularly clear as to what these groups are for. Are they for actually breaching prepared defences? If they are then they need mine clearing and obstacle defeat systems. Now you could just stick mine plow and dozer blades on the tanks and tow line charge throwers (or something like carpet) behind any of the vehicles but you would still be lacking a fascine carrier...


I think it's an attempt to imitate Russia's Assault Sapper Battalion.
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Husseinarti
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Postby Husseinarti » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:16 am

Lamoni wrote:(Image)

This is a rare image of the General Motor's proposal for the XM1 Abrams MBT. I thought that you might enjoy seeing this.


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Iltica
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Postby Iltica » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Does it have an adjustable ground clearance or are the torsion bars snapped?
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:53 pm

Any real practical differences between having a NotM1919 or NotMG34/42 on AFVs?
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Laritaia
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:00 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Any real practical differences between having a NotM1919 or NotMG34/42 on AFVs?


it's easier to change the barrel on an MG32/43

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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:03 pm

So besides that, the rate of fire difference is negligible for a tank MG?
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

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Laritaia
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:11 pm

Fordorsia wrote:So besides that, the rate of fire difference is negligible for a tank MG?


there are ways of reducing the MG42's ROF to more usable levels.

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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:14 pm

MG42's rate of fire is sexy tho :c
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Laritaia
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:17 pm

Fordorsia wrote:MG42's rate of fire is sexy tho :c


it's pointless

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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:33 pm

Laritaia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:MG42's rate of fire is sexy tho :c


it's pointless


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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:25 pm

New landship. But's okay because the Russians did it first and it is fairly reasonable as far and landships go : )
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80mm front, 70mm sides, 50mm rear, barbette 70mm, turrets 70mm all round
Short ass 105mm howitzer, 60mm gun, two fixed hull MGs, two coax MGs, one bustle MG, one pintle MG
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Sevvania
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Postby Sevvania » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:00 pm

SMK stronk, best landship. Should supplement with M3 Lees.
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Lamoni
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Postby Lamoni » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:22 am

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Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."


Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.


Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.

Part of the Meow family in Gameplay, and a GORRAM GAME MOD! My TGs are NOT for Mod Stuff.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:15 am

Sevvania wrote:SMK stronk, best landship. Should supplement with M3 Lees.


Bonus comparisons
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Mine is better armoured all round and probably has a more suitable armament, but it doesn't have an SMG turret so it's completely outmatched



There goes my planned car infantry
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Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:58 pm

Doing a reasonably detailed 37mm

Regarding hull mounts, how were small guns mounted? Did stuff like Japanese mounts have both elevation and traverse controls, or was it all done in a ball mount or something just using your shoulder?
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edit WIP
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Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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New Antonalia
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Postby New Antonalia » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:34 pm

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A, probably less than successful, model of what a Post Soviet Eastern European nation can be

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Anemos Major
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:40 pm

Fordorsia wrote:New landship. But's okay because the Russians did it first and it is fairly reasonable as far and landships go : )
(Image)

80mm front, 70mm sides, 50mm rear, barbette 70mm, turrets 70mm all round
Short ass 105mm howitzer, 60mm gun, two fixed hull MGs, two coax MGs, one bustle MG, one pintle MG


Have you given up on doing markings and whatnot :,(


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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:33 am

The Air Force announced Aug. 21, 2017 the award of two technology maturation and risk reduction contracts for its Ground Based Strategic Deterrent intercontinental ballistic missile weapon system program. Contracts were awarded to Boeing Company, Huntsville, Alabama, and Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation, Redondo Beach, California.


peacekeeper come home ;~;

lockheed-martin pls

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:55 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:New landship. But's okay because the Russians did it first and it is fairly reasonable as far and landships go : )
(Image)

80mm front, 70mm sides, 50mm rear, barbette 70mm, turrets 70mm all round
Short ass 105mm howitzer, 60mm gun, two fixed hull MGs, two coax MGs, one bustle MG, one pintle MG


Have you given up on doing markings and whatnot :,(


Didn't think anyone cared for them

Besides, I would have but I just didn't think to, plus that would require coming up with a heavy or probably super heavy battalion marker.

These are the markings for the 34th TD Battalion and 4th Siege Tank Battalion or whatever it is if you have any ideas for a super heavy marker. I was thinking a ship with tracks could be fitting
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Gallia- wrote:TBF a flag is impressive in """sketchup"""


Just imported the png. Didn't draw it in sketchup.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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