Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation Mk X

by **Taihei Tengoku** » Mon May 08, 2017 6:28 am

Iltica wrote:Haven't been able to find a diagram of that particular version's loader but it seems plausible that it is similar to this related project's loader, but offset to one side.
On that same forum page is a gif of a quarter-circle shaped mechanism that might be possible to expand into a semi-circle.

Some other possibilities are a sort of vertical belt system along the lines of this:
(Image)

Or if you want to get really weird, a derivative of the old T-64 carousel system that doesn't form a complete circle, sacrificing the ability to select different rounds in favor functioning more like a curved magazine on an assault rifle.
Nevermind that's stupid.

The autoloader would've had all of Buntar's ammunition so a semicircular Molot loader would only give it 16 rounds, and the belt looks like it holds 14 or 16.

by **Gallia-** » Mon May 08, 2017 6:31 am

16 rounds isn't terrible TBF.

That's about Abrams' ready ammo load before you start needing to disassemble the racks to get the rest of the ready ammunition.

And then there's the semi-ready racks and the hull bin.

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:03 am

Leopard 2 can iirc fire 6 rounds before the loader has to start collapsing racks to fit the next rounds through the blast door

by **Gallia-** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:07 am

Buntar also had the ultimate horizon tank killer real life 152mm HV.

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:22 am

pff the Horizon

comes fitted with a back scatter X-ray sight for shooting through the Horizon

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:36 am

Laritaia wrote:pff the Horizon

comes fitted with a back scatter X-ray sight for shooting through the Horizon
(Image)

looks cool man.
Is that your own drawing?

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:53 am

...

yes

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:55 am

Laritaia wrote:...

yes

cant wait to see the finished design.

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 7:59 am

Chinevion wrote:
Laritaia wrote:...

yes

cant wait to see the finished design.

eh that one has kinda stalled out

i'm updating my 60-80s stuff now

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:31 am

Laritaia wrote:
Chinevion wrote:cant wait to see the finished design.

eh that one has kinda stalled out

i'm updating my 60-80s stuff now

I'm experimenting with putting my Raksha turret on the hull i was working on a while ago. Needs much more work, but atleast it is not so tall now.

Might take a bit of inspiration for the outline you posted by extending the front, and Making the rear hang out a bit.

by **Gallia-** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:05 am

so now you're back
from outer space

return of the starship

105mm colt-vickers atomic rifle

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:28 am

Gallia- wrote:(Image)

so now you're back
from outer space

return of the starship

105mm colt-vickers atomic rifle

Love the starship

by **Austrasien** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:31 am

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2017/05/07/140mm-leclerc/

No context but: Leclerc with 140mm gun .

by **The Soodean Imperium** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:38 am

Austrasien wrote:http://ftr.wot-news.com/2017/05/07/140mm-leclerc/

No context but: Leclerc with 140mm gun .

The use of a muzzle brake is certainly interesting. Any idea why that is?

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:39 am

Austrasien wrote:http://ftr.wot-news.com/2017/05/07/140mm-leclerc/

No context but: Leclerc with 140mm gun .

DAMN

by **Fordorsia** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:40 am

Austrasien wrote:http://ftr.wot-news.com/2017/05/07/140mm-leclerc/

No context but: Leclerc with 140mm gun .

I wanna fuck that muzzle brake

by **Austrasien** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:42 am

The Soodean Imperium wrote:The use of a muzzle brake is certainly interesting. Any idea why that is?

Given the light weight of the tank and the lack of changes to the turret there probably is not enough room for a sufficiently long recoil travel, it probably has the same recoil stroke as the 120mm gun.

by **The Soodean Imperium** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:48 am

Austrasien wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:The use of a muzzle brake is certainly interesting. Any idea why that is?

Given the light weight of the tank and the lack of changes to the turret there probably is not enough room for a sufficiently long recoil travel, it probably has the same recoil stroke as the 120mm gun.

So if I went ahead with my SCh-8 idea proposed earlier, which would probably be around 55 tonnes with a 3-man crew, would a muzzle brake be necessary there as well?

A small aesthetic voice in me wants the answer to be yes but really I don't care

by **Austrasien** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:56 am

Unless you leave room in the turret to accommodate the longer recoil stroke of the future gun then it would be desirable.

However Object 292 did not need a muzzle brake to mount a 152mm in a T-80 and it seems to have functioned fine. The Russians seem a bit more tolerant of high recoil impulses in their tanks though.

by **Fordorsia** » Mon May 08, 2017 2:23 pm

Is it in any way sensible to have an SPG with a 150mm howitzer have pretty thick frontal armour (100mm in this case), but to save weight have armour on the side that only repels small arms? I know the Brummbar's lower side armour was garbage and only meant to protect against small arms, but I'm asking about the entire side armour.

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 3:16 pm

i decided that the previous SPAAG turret was too cluttered

by **Fordorsia** » Mon May 08, 2017 3:44 pm

Why are the suspension arms in different directions?

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 3:52 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Why are the suspension arms in different directions?

reasons

by **Chinevion** » Mon May 08, 2017 3:56 pm

Laritaia wrote:i decided that the previous SPAAG turret was too cluttered

(Image)

Does it identify as BRRRRRRRRRRT?

by **Laritaia** » Mon May 08, 2017 3:58 pm

Chinevion wrote:
Laritaia wrote:i decided that the previous SPAAG turret was too cluttered

(Image)

Does it identify as BRRRRRRRRRRT?

it is indeed BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTsexual

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