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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:03 pm

>1 minute 17 seconds to fire 2 rounds
rip
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Husseinarti
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Postby Husseinarti » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:04 pm

Gallia- wrote:big gonnes

chief knows how to treat a lady rite with fingers that fast


<3
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:06 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:>1 minute 17 seconds to fire 2 rounds
rip


they have a broken gun

also theyre the first gun to finish their fire mission and the first out of the tube

with a broken gun

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Gallia- wrote:big gonnes

chief knows how to treat a lady rite with fingers that fast


<3


i did 5 u bbe~
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Postby Husseinarti » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:15 pm

They are also firing charge 7, which slows it down a bit too.
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Austrasien
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Postby Austrasien » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:27 pm

Chinevion wrote:I fixed the track, and the tanks hull is coming along, the shape is very unique with the turret siting on an angled frontal slope. this is for allowing a extreamly effective hull down and a gun depression of -18-20 degress. Cant wait to share it with yall

I'm taking some influence from (Image) by http://voughtvindicator.deviantart.com/art/CCZ-99-591581462.
The tank as a whole will completely different.
Thinking about adding a side or rear compartment for a injured soldier, or walk on infantry shields, but only on later varients. I'm doing the outline and all the drawing in ms paint and coloring, shading, camo and scening on Photoshop.

Pros to this design:
Good sloping
Exilent gun depression and Hull down,
More room for a larger engine
Exilent long range engadgment

Cons:
1.High turret profile makes the tank vanurable to a shot being angled down through coupala
2.Light armor
3.Visible turret ring
4.Almost no rear gun depression.

Solutions:
1. There is none. Maybe add additional armor on Coupula? What do you guys think
2. negate with copius era add ons and inserts and good Special/composit armor
3. Add on turret ring armor in uparmored varients
4. No fix, supporting Jaats in the four tank platoon would have to defend.

Overview:
Great long range engagment ability but mediocre close range ability
Great hull down. Large turret profile, but amazing gun depression as a benefit.
Bad armor relying on range, hardkill and era for protection.

What do you think?
Would this design yield any advantages for the Racksha? Would I be better sticking to a regular design? Am I stupid for trying to design tanks that dont follow similar designs to the tanks designed for the best armies by the most qualified designers in the world?

Edit, I just realized that if the ring is on an angle, the turret would rotate on an angle, meaning they would be incapable of firing behind it as the gun would point up into the sky.
I also just looked back at the photo, the turret would not be able to rotate to behind, but the turret could rotate a little more then a 180 degree angle. At the ranges the tank would be engaging targets, it might not mater if the turret could rotate directly backwards, but it is a major detriment to the design. What I'm thinking the artist was thinking is the ring itself is angled, but the turret does not rotate on an angle. Is there anyway to prevent all these problems or should I just design a more traditional tank


Angling the turret, especially by that much is bad. It will cause the race ring and traverse motors to wear out much faster because the turret will be constantly out of balance. It will also be very stressful for the traverse motors to maintain smooth tracking as the turrets center of gravity shifts during a rotation. Which is not to say it is impossible but cost will be higher and reliability lower.
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Federated Kingdom of Prussia
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Postby Federated Kingdom of Prussia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:51 pm

Cool video of a T-64 autoloader. Question: Do autoloaders ever misfeed the ammo?

Also, I was reading Marine Corps Tank Battles in Vietnam, and it referenced a bad problem the M48 tended to have where the thin-walled canister rounds would sometimes break open while being loaded. Is this a common problem with canister shot?

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Austrasien
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Postby Austrasien » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:03 pm

Should be less likely than a loader doing the same thing.

Aside from memes a machine will perform a simple repetitive task like that better than a human.
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:21 pm

Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...
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Rhodesialund
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Postby Rhodesialund » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:56 pm

Gallia- wrote:Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...


Yeah, but can it share nohomo femboi stuff like you can? :eyebrow:
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:22 pm

Gallia- wrote:Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...

Honestly the way I'd do it is datamine these threads for the text. Because these threads generally revolve around a small number of topics we could all easily be replaced by chatbots designed to mix and match the collected replies of the thread into semi-coherent text.
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:54 am

Purpelia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...

Honestly the way I'd do it is datamine these threads for the text.


If only I did that.

It'll have to wait until computers can be grammatically and semantically correct though, so probably never.

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Gallia- wrote:Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...


Yeah, but can it share nohomo femboi stuff like you can? :eyebrow:


Just give it a list of gelbooru links.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:05 am

Austrasien wrote:Should be less likely than a loader doing the same thing.

Aside from memes a machine will perform a simple repetitive task like that better than a human.


True, but corollary:

Inept, tired, or careless crew can screw up the maintenance or handling of an autoloader in such a way as to make a malfunction later on. The likelihood of this depends on the quality of the autoloader design and the skill of the crew.

So if you want to have, in your RP or story, some kind of gnarly feed malfunction, you still can!
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Laritaia
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Postby Laritaia » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:36 am

Allanea wrote:
Austrasien wrote:Should be less likely than a loader doing the same thing.

Aside from memes a machine will perform a simple repetitive task like that better than a human.


True, but corollary:

Inept, tired, or careless crew can screw up the maintenance or handling of an autoloader in such a way as to make a malfunction later on. The likelihood of this depends on the quality of the autoloader design and the skill of the crew.

So if you want to have, in your RP or story, some kind of gnarly feed malfunction, you still can!


this is why your gunner always keeps the rapid maintenance hammer close at hand

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Postby Austrasien » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:38 am

Allanea wrote:
Austrasien wrote:Should be less likely than a loader doing the same thing.

Aside from memes a machine will perform a simple repetitive task like that better than a human.


True, but corollary:

Inept, tired, or careless crew can screw up the maintenance or handling of an autoloader in such a way as to make a malfunction later on. The likelihood of this depends on the quality of the autoloader design and the skill of the crew.

So if you want to have, in your RP or story, some kind of gnarly feed malfunction, you still can!


This is true. Though if you want to write about Franz the conscript accidentally inserting his arm or genitals into the breech or something trying to load a round, you can do that too.

Gallia- wrote:Are memes truly a repetitive task, though?

I mean I've been convinced that I could be replaced by a suitable chatbot on IRC. Just make sure it mines DTIC, Forecast International, and USACAC for sentences, prints a url followed by a series of superlatives, and follows up to replies with the occasional, overused lewd pun, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The hardest part would be emulating my walls of text but that could be done with a neural network and a few hours of training. Feed it PDFs and Defense Update articles regularly and it should be about as capable as I am.

So maybe...


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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:41 am

wow check your Blut und Stahl privilege "viky"

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e: why are different flow lines different colours since you dont have quadrants or anything
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Austrasien
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Postby Austrasien » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:45 am

Mechanical connections.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:59 am

MEME LMAO

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Postby Ardavia » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:04 am

Image

More work on the light tank.
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Postby Chinevion » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:35 am

Ardavia wrote:(Image)

More work on the light tank.

Amazing

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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:40 am

someone convince me to not give ~Frisian~ motskytte/motor rifles/motorized infantry alacrans

alt idea is cabover halftrack OOOOO:

inb4"lariatia"callsmeoutasmemerippingfag

it would be lit correct although at this point i think it's going to end up being nazi germany with all sorts of retarded halftrack variants, rather than us army band-track-over-wheels for slightly better offroading
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Laritaia
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Postby Laritaia » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:49 am

Gallia- wrote:inb4"lariatia"callsmeoutasmemerippingfag


sure just take all my "genius" ideas

although mine was a track over wheel half-track so it's still higher on the meme pyramid

i was going to make it dual track over wheel for some sort of mutant quad track, but that was too much even for me.
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:52 am

alacran is just an m2a1 with a m113 engine anyway

it's also less obscure because no one deleted all the pictures of it from the internet (yet!)

Laritaia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:inb4"lariatia"callsmeoutasmemerippingfag


sure just take all my "genius" ideas

although mine was a track over wheel half-track so it's still higher on the meme pyramid

i was going to make it dual track over wheel for some sort of mutant quad track, but that was too much even for me.


quintawheel with the middle wheel for turning and the outer two wheels tracked and the front tracks' suspension units on gimbal so they can also turn

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