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The Green Union
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Postby The Green Union » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:16 am

Very, very well done.

I'll definitely be linking this for my region to reference.
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Calendôr is in the GU heartland, located along the Green River. Francophone, it is the most urban nation. Dominated by boreal forests.
Urlistan covers the west coast and mouth of the Green River. English speaking, it is a rocky country based with industry and culture based around the sea. Currently under the control of the Arcadian Empire.
Arasland is a large northern landmass dominated by rocky forests and, above the treeline, tundra. Speaking several dialects of Emerstarian and Arcadian German, and culturally dominated by small communes organized in tribes.

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Pherdistan
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Postby Pherdistan » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:39 pm

As always, very good. I do have one question, though.

In your section on corruption and theft of supplies, you don't list any possible countermeasures against it. I just wanted to know if there was a reason for that?

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St Avalin
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Postby St Avalin » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:43 pm

Posting for easy reference.

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Allanea
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Allanea » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:26 am

Pherdistan wrote:As always, very good. I do have one question, though.

In your section on corruption and theft of supplies, you don't list any possible countermeasures against it. I just wanted to know if there was a reason for that?


Brevity, really.

Most of the measures against theft of supplies are obvious - have supplies regularly counted, important supplies identified by individual numbers and signed for, and facilities guarded.

But above all, it's never possible to fully prevent this stuff anyway, it's kind of a reality of military life even in advanced forces. Order more stuff than you need because some will get stolen.
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Hyggemata
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Postby Hyggemata » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:58 am

Hyggemata wrote:
Allanea wrote:
Containerization
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A stack of military shipping containers.
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If the containers are camouflaged, does it mean they're supposed to be invisible? :p
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:26 am

Hyggemata wrote:
Hyggemata wrote:
If the containers are camouflaged, does it mean they're supposed to be invisible? :p


Do you think that if you repost your joke, it will become funnier? :)
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La Cosa Fedora
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Postby La Cosa Fedora » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:48 am

What if we have a regular professional/non-politicized military like most governments, but all logistics and sustainment functions are outsourced to a politicized organization, organized like a military but loyal to the rulers instead of the State? Ought to stop coups and mutinies right in their tracks!
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:04 am

La Cosa Fedora wrote:What if we have a regular professional/non-politicized military like most governments, but all logistics and sustainment functions are outsourced to a politicized organization, organized like a military but loyal to the rulers instead of the State? Ought to stop coups and mutinies right in their tracks!



How will you handle tactical logistics, i.e. actually within the units?
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La Cosa Fedora
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Postby La Cosa Fedora » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:11 am

Allanea wrote:
La Cosa Fedora wrote:What if we have a regular professional/non-politicized military like most governments, but all logistics and sustainment functions are outsourced to a politicized organization, organized like a military but loyal to the rulers instead of the State? Ought to stop coups and mutinies right in their tracks!



How will you handle tactical logistics, i.e. actually within the units?

That would be left up to the actual military to an extent... although our units tend to be infiltrated by loyalists (in contravention of our own laws) so maybe we can just have infiltrators be disproportionately put in charge of those functions if this does turn out to be the best way to exercise control.
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Postby Allanea » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:29 pm

Fascinating, actually.
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Dachine
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Dachine » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:38 am

Very helpful and informative. I'm curious, what was your inspiration for this?

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Postby Allanea » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:55 am

Dachine wrote:Very helpful and informative. I'm curious, what was your inspiration for this?


I don't fully understand the question.

If you mean why I write informatives, I have been writing various informatives for a while. My inspiration is Questers' excellent Basic Primer to Naval Warfare.

If you mean how I choose the topics, I choose the topics based on what kind of things I perceive that people in the community might need to know more about, and then I research those topics and write about them. Currently I am researching and writing an informative about Special Operations, and after that you might see an informative about field fortifications.
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Dachine
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Postby Dachine » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:26 pm

Allanea wrote:
Dachine wrote:Very helpful and informative. I'm curious, what was your inspiration for this?


I don't fully understand the question.

If you mean why I write informatives, I have been writing various informatives for a while. My inspiration is Questers' excellent Basic Primer to Naval Warfare.

If you mean how I choose the topics, I choose the topics based on what kind of things I perceive that people in the community might need to know more about, and then I research those topics and write about them. Currently I am researching and writing an informative about Special Operations, and after that you might see an informative about field fortifications.


Yes, partially I was wondering that, but also, what sources do you use for these 'informatives'?

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Hyggemata
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Postby Hyggemata » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Allanea wrote:
Hyggemata wrote:


Do you think that if you repost your joke, it will become funnier? :)

It's an honest question. If something should be visible (such as in this case, you don't want the containers to go missing), why are they camouflaged?
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Postby Allanea » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:36 pm

Dachine wrote:
Allanea wrote:
I don't fully understand the question.

If you mean why I write informatives, I have been writing various informatives for a while. My inspiration is Questers' excellent Basic Primer to Naval Warfare.

If you mean how I choose the topics, I choose the topics based on what kind of things I perceive that people in the community might need to know more about, and then I research those topics and write about them. Currently I am researching and writing an informative about Special Operations, and after that you might see an informative about field fortifications.


Yes, partially I was wondering that, but also, what sources do you use for these 'informatives'?


I provided a bibliography in the informative itself. :)

It's over there.
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Postby Allanea » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:39 pm

Hyggemata wrote:
Allanea wrote:
Do you think that if you repost your joke, it will become funnier? :)

It's an honest question. If something should be visible (such as in this case, you don't want the containers to go missing), why are they camouflaged?


Oh sorry, I thought it was a joke.

Well you don't want anything to go missing (you don't want your uniform, tank, etc. to go missing either), but camouflage doesn't really make things perfectly invisible. It makes things harder to spot (or in the case of some kinds of camouflage, make it harder to identify their shape and the exact distance to them), at a distance. Obviously you'd have trouble seeing those camouflaged containers if you were a thousand yards away (say, like an enemy soldier) and they were placed in some bushes, but you wouldn't have a problem if you were standing on a concrete runway and they were 50 yards away.

[This is assuming this camouflage is functional - some sorts of camouflage just look pretty, like those camouflage underpants you can buy on ebay].
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Albatan
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Postby Albatan » Sun May 07, 2017 2:45 pm

Tag. :bow:
Albatan, a small nation that seeks to spread peace and friendship in a violent and chaotic world. Interesting in using automation and artificial intelligence to improve the lives of its citizens. A member of Markion.

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Furbish Islands
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Furbish Islands » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:41 am

Tag

I just finished the airlifting part, and I'll continue reading this soon.

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Imperium Sidhicum
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:52 am

A job well-done, a comprehensive and well-written overview of military logistics.

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Galima
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Postby Galima » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:46 pm

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