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Postby Vault 93 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:36 pm

Has your nation ever conducted, or had it's people be subjected to, human experimentation, voluntary or done on unwilling or ignorant subjects?


Vault 93, as with every other Vault (except for the 7 control Vaults, and the unfinished ones), has a designated social experiment done on an ignorant population. Advertised as huge fallout shelters that were luxurious, futuristic, and had the comfort of home, most Vaults were actually meant to conduct cruel experiments on it's inhabitants, ranging from radiation, cloning, cyrogenics, rapid mutation via the Forced Evolutionary Virus, and much more. Vault 93's experiment, which is rather tame compared to most others, was testing the hypothetical direct democracy, with referendums and public debates on almost every decision.
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Postby Valgora » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:55 pm

Human experimentation is one way Valgora "executes" dangerous criminals. The medical experimentation can be extremely brutal; however, we don't have to resort to animal testing. Obviously, the medical experimentation is done against the person's will, but maybe they should have thought twice before raping or murdering a person. All test subjects are kept alive until: death by illness, death by experimental drug, death by experiment surgical procedure, death due to other complications, etc.
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Postby Rebirth Union » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:01 pm

No. We see it as unethical.
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Postby Gensila » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:03 pm

Those who don't follow the national religion, or any other criminals are, at any time during or after imprisonment, subject to be used in experiments conducted by the state or sold to the private sector for experimentation in any way they see fit.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:30 pm

Human subjects are always kept on hand to test new genetically-based patches for immunity to disease as well as to test proposed changes to the Approved DNA Codec for the Human Species. Once fully tested and approved, patches are rolled out to the rest of the human population. These patches are mandatory.

We also keep a population of test subjects for every other species of interest.

Animal testing is considered unreliable, and therefore, a waste of time. They do not have the same DNA as the target species, so it's sort of like testing a PC app on an Apple. Even though the two are similar, it is unreasonable to expect the same code to work the same way across platforms. The same principle applies to cross-species experimentation, so we avoid it.

Experimentation on Decepticons is not really necessary since a properly-educated coder (or for physical things, an engineer) can figure out what's going to do what in a more mathematical fashion. That, however, doesn't stop Decepticon citizens from trying out new patches and physical upgrades on themselves (whether or not they have the education needed to do it right on the first try). Fortunately, the Debugging Centers are good at rolling back changes that didn't work out so well. It does, however, advise that everyone make a copy of their original coding before changing things around. As long as the mis-patched person is still sane enough to tell where their backup copy is, having one makes a rollback a very simple operation. Physical mistakes are harder to fix, but on the positive side, the person who made the mistake can do the work himself as long as he still has the manual for his original body design.
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Postby New Birgland » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:14 pm

All human experimentation in New Birgland is done with the full consent of those experimented upon. All experiments on live subjects, be it human or animal, are required to be humane. Examples of common human experiments are drug trials, psychological trials, and sociological experiments.

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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:02 am

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Issue of Dispute: Human Experimentation in the Eternal Empire.




In the Eternal Empire, we consider this practice necessary for medical development and understanding human physiology. However, this has proven difficult from time to time, as test subjects are often inferior in genome to the Ephyral race. We have then since permitted human experimentation on all life-sentence prisoners, slaves owned by the state and other such individuals.

Human experimentation has been sanctioned by both the crown and the Imperial government, and receives funding from the Pyramid of Organic and Biotic Science to be used by the Directorate of Experimentation. These experiments range from human behaviour under sensual deprivation, sensual over-stimulation, pain thresholds, reaction to medical drugs, reaction to biological and chemical weaponry and other, more classified experiments. For the purpose of mean averages and accuracy, the Directorate tests on both sexes, and a range of ages from young to elderly. If it can be helped, the life of a test subject is prolonged to advance tests, but if the extending of lifespan will prove to affect the results of the test, the subject will be terminated.

The earliest known case of human experimentation in Ephyra comes from the days of the High Empire, with surgeons and physicians dissecting living individuals to learn about how the body works. Though few of the Imperial populace are aware of exactly what goes on, most are aware that some form of experimentation exists. For security reasons, information regarding the tests are withheld by the Imperial Ministry of National Information and the Imperial Commissariat of Information, to be leaked neither to the populace nor other nations. Whilst other nations suspect our involvement in legalised human experimentation, none have found enough evidence to condemn, and it would not matter if they did. Ephyra has been condemned many times, but has survived due to the fact of self-sustenance. We do not need other nations, we do not depend on other nations, so when those nations try to condemn us and sanction us, it is words lost to the wind and footprints covered by the ocean.

The experimentation is almost always done against the individual's will, as the array of tests lined up can be agonising. This does not even require sadistic operators, as slaves are not even considered human, and prisoners to be forfeit of rights. So in short, we test upon those who have no other purpose than to serve the empire or who have betrayed it. Suffice to say, the knowledge gained from our experiments is invaluable and vast, and remains a closely guarded secret of the Directorate and its associate Pyramid of Influence.



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Postby Devernia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:56 am

Only if both parties accept the experimentation. An example of this is when Devernia donated two subjects for Jinwoy's program.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:15 am

It is very difficult indeed for anyone to get a permit to experiment on Purpelian citizens. However conversely there are almost no laws dictating what you can do to foreign volunteers. Like, legally speaking you can even kill them. You just have to have a layer of plausible deniability to prove you did not intend to. So it is not terribly uncommon to find Purpelian companies advertising online along the basis of: "Get a free vacation in Purpelia. You only need spend a couple of weeks in our testing lab first."
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Postby Jovian Socialist Republic » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:14 am

Human experimentation is illegal. By government on people and by people on people.
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Postby Outright Sadists » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:19 am

I experiment on my PATHETIC slaves (citizens) excessive amounts of times, as it is rather entertaining.
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Postby Yatzatz » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:23 am

Not without permission. If the subject assents, it is completely legal.
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Postby Malaguenia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:10 am

Human experimentation is illegal unless the test-subject gives consent and the experimentation is humane.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:11 pm

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) TurtleShroom shall enforce nothing that would subject any man, turtle, or mushroom to unholy experimentation against their will.

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All experimentation must be conducted with the express consent of the individual to be experimented on. The same goes for our sentient turtle and mushroom populations. With explicit consent, there is no regulations in regards to what can then be done to them. If they sign the detailed contract explaining what will be done to them, there are no penalties for anything that happens to the paitient afterwards, even if the patient dies. Most exprimentation contracts come with a waiver as well.

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Postby Tekirlemmih » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:15 pm

Human experimentation is widely used in Tekirlemmih, mostly on criminals who have been sentenced to death.
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Postby Xuskeuclite » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:17 pm

On box day those who try and mail themselves are sent to human torture and experimentation labs.

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Postby Gandoor » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:17 pm

Human experimentation is legal in our nation. Any subjects of human experimentation must be a minimum of 20 years of age and have the complete mental capability to fully consent to the experiments and understand any and all potential risks or hazards that may occur.

All human experimentation in our nation is done by state-run facilities, private organisations are not permitted to conduct human experimentations.
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Postby Umaske » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:05 pm

For those up for execution (in paticular: Heretics, Political Prisoners, Terrorists, Murderers, etc..), we fully condone human experimentation for the betterment of science and religious advancement in our nation. They committed the worst of crimes, so they deserve no right to a dignified execution.

On the other hand, for those who committed less heinous crimes but are up for execution either due to the excessive strain they would put on the prison system (sick and unhealthy people) or the uselessness of a jail term, we do not condone human experimentation on them. Instead, they are executed with dignity.
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Postby Dushan » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:16 am

Human experimentation and augmentation are not uncommon in the Principality of Dushan. Being restricted for quite a while under the recent Nationalist Regime the amount of experimentations has increased drastically over the past couple of Years.

Most of those experiments were or are conducted by the Dushan Armed Forces or affiliated Organizations and Institutions. They are not limited but include Brainwashing, Augmentation, Genetic Enhancement and bionic augmentation. Some Pharmaneutical Corporations and other Groups have been as well involved in such practices.

Efforts to limit, restrict or entirely abolish those practices - who are often conducted or carried out in secret or outside of existing legal parameters - are undergoing with only limited sucesses, due the involvement of powerful and influential interests in those matters.
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Postby Twilight Sparkle » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:19 am

I see nothing wrong with experimenting on Humans or Mud Ponies. Experiments on noble Unicorns or brave Pegasi on the other hoof are unthinkable.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:27 am

Vault 93 wrote:Has your nation ever conducted, or had it's people be subjected to, human experimentation, voluntary or done on unwilling or ignorant subjects?


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Postby New Vihenia » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:58 am

Experimentation toward Humans, elves and other sentient-intelligent being is completely banned in Vihenia.
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Postby Hatay » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:03 am

A crime against humanity that is never carried out by the government, nor anybody else. Punishment is severe.
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Postby Oceara » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:06 am

Human Experimentation is legal as long as the subjects are willing participants notified of the risks and are competent enough to understand the risks they were notified about.

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Postby Yuropah » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:10 am

Human experimentation is, usually, undergone by private companies, on willing participants.
The government does conduct "human" experiments on convicted paedophiles though, with, or without their prior consent.
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