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Here is the thread where conflicting histories, technological claims, events, and general issues regarding nations can be settled. CoDN nations may settle small or large differences here without the need to spam TG boxes and clog up the regional message board. Below are a possible list of things that can be discussed:

History:
-Conflicts/outcomes
-Historical alliances
-Trade history
-Territory disputes (past and present)
-Leaders
-Treaties

Technological:
-Maritime inventions
-Aviation
-Firearms
-Electronics
-Military technology
-Space travel
-Scientific research
-Other inventions

Please keep all conversations civil and ask the RP administrator for clarification if a compromise or agreement cannot be reached.

Now time for some historical issues. I believe WW1 was our first issue to be discussed.

Who should be the antagonist of WW1?

Dragomerian Islands wrote:Who should be the antagonist of WW1?

That depends, do we still want to include GK in our history? Do we create a new nation? Do we even have a WW1 instead of a bunch of smaller conflicts?

I have been able to establish an official history of the Shogunate.

The Link = https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... /id=721970

The Conflicts:

-War of Vietnamese Subjugation
-First World War (Assisting Dragomeria)
-Arcadian Civil War?
-Communist Purge
-Crackdown of the Vietnamese Yakuza
-The Pacific War/WW2
-The 6-7 years of Grevious Regency (The Imposed Regency from 1960 to the revolution in 1967; Enacted Martial law to calm the public)

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:I have been able to establish an official history of the Shogunate.

The Link = https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... /id=721970

The Conflicts:

-War of Vietnamese Subjugation
-First World War (Assisting Dragomeria)
-Arcadian Civil War?
-Communist Purge
-Crackdown of the Vietnamese Yakuza
-The Pacific War/WW2
-The 6-7 years of Grevious Regency (The Imposed Regency from 1960 to the revolution in 1967; Enacted Martial law to calm the public)

I'm not sure if the Arcadian civil war will be valid anymore. Didn't he leave? We could possibly say he collapsed afterwards.

Dragomerian Islands wrote:Who should be the antagonist of WW1?

I could do that.

Versail wrote:

Dragomerian Islands wrote:Who should be the antagonist of WW1?

I could do that.

Hmm, that would be interesting.

Republic of Washinton wrote:

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:I have been able to establish an official history of the Shogunate.

The Link = https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... /id=721970

The Conflicts:

-War of Vietnamese Subjugation
-First World War (Assisting Dragomeria)
-Arcadian Civil War?
-Communist Purge
-Crackdown of the Vietnamese Yakuza
-The Pacific War/WW2
-The 6-7 years of Grevious Regency (The Imposed Regency from 1960 to the revolution in 1967; Enacted Martial law to calm the public)

I'm not sure if the Arcadian civil war will be valid anymore. Didn't he leave? We could possibly say he collapsed afterwards.

I'm ok with that.

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:I'm not sure if the Arcadian civil war will be valid anymore. Didn't he leave? We could possibly say he collapsed afterwards.

I'm ok with that.

Unless of course we get a stand in.

Republic of Washinton wrote:

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:
I'm ok with that.

Unless of course we get a stand in.

Of course. Anyways As I am one of the few nations with a complete history factbook, Let's go over mine. What do you think of it?

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:Unless of course we get a stand in.

Of course. Anyways As I am one of the few nations with a complete history factbook, Let's go over mine. What do you think of it?

It looks fairly good. Though I might add it is a tad short.

Quick poll:
What would rather support? A large world war like in real life or a series of smaller wars occurring at around the same time as WW1?

Republic of Washinton wrote:

The Scarlet Shogunate wrote:
Of course. Anyways As I am one of the few nations with a complete history factbook, Let's go over mine. What do you think of it?

It looks fairly good. Though I might add it is a tad short.

Quick poll:
What would rather support? A large world war like in real life or a series of smaller wars occurring at around the same time as WW1?

I'd go for the smaller wars. We don't seem to have the extensive diplomatic networks of RL. At least not any webs large enough for a WWI-style scenario.

Ascoobis wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:It looks fairly good. Though I might add it is a tad short.

Quick poll:
What would rather support? A large world war like in real life or a series of smaller wars occurring at around the same time as WW1?

I'd go for the smaller wars. We don't seem to have the extensive diplomatic networks of RL. At least not any webs large enough for a WWI-style scenario.

Seems like a good idea to me.

just a suggestion
if we're gonna make up history
why don't we rp it as well?

obviously agree on the outcome first to eliminate most of the reasons past rps failed

Nova Capatenia wrote:just a suggestion
if we're gonna make up history
why don't we rp it as well?

obviously agree on the outcome first to eliminate most of the reasons past rps failed

We might, but one step at a time. We need to agree on what we will do first.

Nova Capatenia wrote:just a suggestion
if we're gonna make up history
why don't we rp it as well?

obviously agree on the outcome first to eliminate most of the reasons past rps failed

Perhaps certain moments with predetermined endings. I wouldn't want to RP the last few thousand years for too long.

Republic of Washinton wrote:

Ascoobis wrote:I'd go for the smaller wars. We don't seem to have the extensive diplomatic networks of RL. At least not any webs large enough for a WWI-style scenario.

Seems like a good idea to me.

My suggested small wars would help cause the rivalries which would exist at the time of the Pacific War.

Ascoobis wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:Seems like a good idea to me.

My suggested small wars would help cause the rivalries which would exist at the time of the Pacific War.

True.

Who would these wars be between however?

Republic of Washinton wrote:Who would these wars be between however?

Why not use those that I suggested in my RMB post, with their permission of course?

So, I have a few scenarios that will be going up. None of these are final, just mere suggestions.

Pagluam-Drago war 1907-1909
In the early 1900s, Dragomerian nationalism reached new heights. The Dragomerians wanted to be seen as the one true power in Asia and indeed the Western Pacific. This lead to them attacking the Italian Colony of Paglaum. The colonial forces stationed in Paglaum would battle insurmountable odds against a rising Empire. Italian reinforcements could not often get into the country as a blockade was formed that managed to defeat the Italian Eastern Fleet. The war ended up in a defeat for Pagluam with the Italian government having to give the colony independence. The new country would then be subjected to blockade and threats for decades.

The Caribbean War 1915-1918
In 1910, the unstable Marxist government of Cuba establishes control across the Caribbean. This government establishes ties with the government of Greater Konstantinople, a nation at the time that was not on good relations with many new world nations. In 1914, an Ascoobian ocean liner that left the Gulf of Mexico was torpedoed by a torpedo boat from Cuba and a few days later, a submarine from Greater Konstantinople torpedoed a Washingtonian battleship visiting Cerma. Cerma, Washington, and Ascoobis all declared war on Greater Konstantinople and Cuba shortly afterwards. An expeditionary force landed in Cuba and the other Caribbean islands to fight both the Cubans and the Konstantinopolitans. Fighting took place on land and at sea. Eventually the North American nations defeated Greater Konstantinople at sea, prevent any reinforcements to the Caribbean. In 1918, the North American nations won and placed Cuba under occupation until a new government was formed. This eventually led to the creation of the American Treaty Coalition Organization.

Persian-Konstantinoplean War 1919-1921
A war occurring immediately after the Caribbean War. East Persia took advantage of the weakened Konstantinoplean military and attacked Greater Konstantinople. Savage fighting took place in the Middle East as the Dragomerian Islands would send supplies and troops to reinforce it's new ally in the Middle East. After fighting in the mountains, desert, and in trenches, Greater Konstantinople was forced to sue for peace. The damage doen by the war was the final nail in the coffin for Greater Konstantinople, as it collapsed in 1930.

Versailian-Taran War 1911-1914
The long bitter rivals of Versail and Taralus would lock horns again in 1911, over a border dispute near the Ural Mountains. Versail invaded to stake it's claim but ultimately triggered a vicious Taran counterattack. Waves of Versailian forces would be sent against Taralus and their formidable defenses. It was said that the fighting claimed more phyicatric casualties than any war before in human history. After the lines would shift back and forth several times, the two sides signed a peace treaty that would split the claimed territory that was fought over.

Republic of Washinton wrote:So, I have a few scenarios that will be going up. None of these are final, just mere suggestions.

Pagluam-Drago war 1907-1909
In the early 1900s, Dragomerian nationalism reached new heights. The Dragomerians wanted to be seen as the one true power in Asia and indeed the Western Pacific. This lead to them attacking the Italian Colony of Paglaum. The colonial forces stationed in Paglaum would battle insurmountable odds against a rising Empire. Italian reinforcements could not often get into the country as a blockade was formed that managed to defeat the Italian Eastern Fleet. The war ended up in a defeat for Pagluam with the Italian government having to give the colony independence. The new country would then be subjected to blockade and threats for decades.

The Caribbean War 1915-1918
In 1910, the unstable Marxist government of Cuba establishes control across the Caribbean. This government establishes ties with the government of Greater Konstantinople, a nation at the time that was not on good relations with many new world nations. In 1914, an Ascoobian ocean liner that left the Gulf of Mexico was torpedoed by a torpedo boat from Cuba and a few days later, a submarine from Greater Konstantinople torpedoed a Washingtonian battleship visiting Cerma. Cerma, Washington, and Ascoobis all declared war on Greater Konstantinople and Cuba shortly afterwards. An expeditionary force landed in Cuba and the other Caribbean islands to fight both the Cubans and the Konstantinopolitans. Fighting took place on land and at sea. Eventually the North American nations defeated Greater Konstantinople at sea, prevent any reinforcements to the Caribbean. In 1918, the North American nations won and placed Cuba under occupation until a new government was formed. This eventually led to the creation of the American Treaty Coalition Organization.

Persian-Konstantinoplean War 1919-1921
A war occurring immediately after the Caribbean War. East Persia took advantage of the weakened Konstantinoplean military and attacked Greater Konstantinople. Savage fighting took place in the Middle East as the Dragomerian Islands would send supplies and troops to reinforce it's new ally in the Middle East. After fighting in the mountains, desert, and in trenches, Greater Konstantinople was forced to sue for peace. The damage doen by the war was the final nail in the coffin for Greater Konstantinople, as it collapsed in 1930.

Versailian-Taran War 1911-1914
The long bitter rivals of Versail and Taralus would lock horns again in 1911, over a border dispute near the Ural Mountains. Versail invaded to stake it's claim but ultimately triggered a vicious Taran counterattack. Waves of Versailian forces would be sent against Taralus and their formidable defenses. It was said that the fighting claimed more phyicatric casualties than any war before in human history. After the lines would shift back and forth several times, the two sides signed a peace treaty that would split the claimed territory that was fought over.

I would have also invaded greater Konstantinople as well.
And my war taralus would have lasted from 1910-1920.

Versail wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:So, I have a few scenarios that will be going up. None of these are final, just mere suggestions.

Pagluam-Drago war 1907-1909
In the early 1900s, Dragomerian nationalism reached new heights. The Dragomerians wanted to be seen as the one true power in Asia and indeed the Western Pacific. This lead to them attacking the Italian Colony of Paglaum. The colonial forces stationed in Paglaum would battle insurmountable odds against a rising Empire. Italian reinforcements could not often get into the country as a blockade was formed that managed to defeat the Italian Eastern Fleet. The war ended up in a defeat for Pagluam with the Italian government having to give the colony independence. The new country would then be subjected to blockade and threats for decades.

The Caribbean War 1915-1918
In 1910, the unstable Marxist government of Cuba establishes control across the Caribbean. This government establishes ties with the government of Greater Konstantinople, a nation at the time that was not on good relations with many new world nations. In 1914, an Ascoobian ocean liner that left the Gulf of Mexico was torpedoed by a torpedo boat from Cuba and a few days later, a submarine from Greater Konstantinople torpedoed a Washingtonian battleship visiting Cerma. Cerma, Washington, and Ascoobis all declared war on Greater Konstantinople and Cuba shortly afterwards. An expeditionary force landed in Cuba and the other Caribbean islands to fight both the Cubans and the Konstantinopolitans. Fighting took place on land and at sea. Eventually the North American nations defeated Greater Konstantinople at sea, prevent any reinforcements to the Caribbean. In 1918, the North American nations won and placed Cuba under occupation until a new government was formed. This eventually led to the creation of the American Treaty Coalition Organization.

Persian-Konstantinoplean War 1919-1921
A war occurring immediately after the Caribbean War. East Persia took advantage of the weakened Konstantinoplean military and attacked Greater Konstantinople. Savage fighting took place in the Middle East as the Dragomerian Islands would send supplies and troops to reinforce it's new ally in the Middle East. After fighting in the mountains, desert, and in trenches, Greater Konstantinople was forced to sue for peace. The damage doen by the war was the final nail in the coffin for Greater Konstantinople, as it collapsed in 1930.

Versailian-Taran War 1911-1914
The long bitter rivals of Versail and Taralus would lock horns again in 1911, over a border dispute near the Ural Mountains. Versail invaded to stake it's claim but ultimately triggered a vicious Taran counterattack. Waves of Versailian forces would be sent against Taralus and their formidable defenses. It was said that the fighting claimed more phyicatric casualties than any war before in human history. After the lines would shift back and forth several times, the two sides signed a peace treaty that would split the claimed territory that was fought over.

I would have also invaded greater Konstantinople as well.
And my war taralus would have lasted from 1910-1920.

Alrighty, I can make that adjustment when more chime in.

Versail wrote:

Republic of Washinton wrote:So, I have a few scenarios that will be going up. None of these are final, just mere suggestions.

Pagluam-Drago war 1907-1909
In the early 1900s, Dragomerian nationalism reached new heights. The Dragomerians wanted to be seen as the one true power in Asia and indeed the Western Pacific. This lead to them attacking the Italian Colony of Paglaum. The colonial forces stationed in Paglaum would battle insurmountable odds against a rising Empire. Italian reinforcements could not often get into the country as a blockade was formed that managed to defeat the Italian Eastern Fleet. The war ended up in a defeat for Pagluam with the Italian government having to give the colony independence. The new country would then be subjected to blockade and threats for decades.

The Caribbean War 1915-1918
In 1910, the unstable Marxist government of Cuba establishes control across the Caribbean. This government establishes ties with the government of Greater Konstantinople, a nation at the time that was not on good relations with many new world nations. In 1914, an Ascoobian ocean liner that left the Gulf of Mexico was torpedoed by a torpedo boat from Cuba and a few days later, a submarine from Greater Konstantinople torpedoed a Washingtonian battleship visiting Cerma. Cerma, Washington, and Ascoobis all declared war on Greater Konstantinople and Cuba shortly afterwards. An expeditionary force landed in Cuba and the other Caribbean islands to fight both the Cubans and the Konstantinopolitans. Fighting took place on land and at sea. Eventually the North American nations defeated Greater Konstantinople at sea, prevent any reinforcements to the Caribbean. In 1918, the North American nations won and placed Cuba under occupation until a new government was formed. This eventually led to the creation of the American Treaty Coalition Organization.

Persian-Konstantinoplean War 1919-1921
A war occurring immediately after the Caribbean War. East Persia took advantage of the weakened Konstantinoplean military and attacked Greater Konstantinople. Savage fighting took place in the Middle East as the Dragomerian Islands would send supplies and troops to reinforce it's new ally in the Middle East. After fighting in the mountains, desert, and in trenches, Greater Konstantinople was forced to sue for peace. The damage doen by the war was the final nail in the coffin for Greater Konstantinople, as it collapsed in 1930.

Versailian-Taran War 1911-1914
The long bitter rivals of Versail and Taralus would lock horns again in 1911, over a border dispute near the Ural Mountains. Versail invaded to stake it's claim but ultimately triggered a vicious Taran counterattack. Waves of Versailian forces would be sent against Taralus and their formidable defenses. It was said that the fighting claimed more phyicatric casualties than any war before in human history. After the lines would shift back and forth several times, the two sides signed a peace treaty that would split the claimed territory that was fought over.

I would have also invaded greater Konstantinople as well.
And my war taralus would have lasted from 1910-1920.

Nice so far! I'm not quite fond of having GK existing in our history.

How about a Dragomerian-Versailian conflict?