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Postby Laritaia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:38 am

why do they need a thunderstick when they can just stop a man's heart with their mind


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Postby Theodosiya » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:52 am

Well, if something happens down here, all i got, aside from an FN FNC copy (SS1, or SS2, if i'm lucky, or AK-47/74, worst case M16A1), DPM pattern uniform, ancestral spear, knifes, and improvised ammo rig (made from motorcycle riding "vest" and leather jacket). Maybe old vest and PASGT helmet or M1. If they conscript me, guy with bad eyesight. Or if i volunteer in militias.

That said, is there any very easy to use, tough, cheap and a bit customizable automatic rifle chambered in 5.56mm Nato, that is readily available in 3rd world countries?
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:53 am

APCs should come with psychic circles etched into the floor for combat focusing of the squad's chakras

Theodosiya wrote:That said, is there any very easy to use, tough, cheap and a bit customizable automatic rifle chambered in 5.56mm Nato, that is readily available in 3rd world countries?


yes the AR-15
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:10 am

Laritaia wrote:APCs should come with psychic circles etched into the floor for combat focusing of the squad's chakras


Gallan armored fighting vehicles incorporate occult protections using laser etching on the hull panels and doors to prevent extra-dimensional horrors from breaching the fighting compartment. This manifests itself as a proof mark, which is laser etched into every piece of armour steel that passes through the Gallan procurement system.

When the final conflict comes, the Gallan Army will destroy it with firing ports weapons and nuclear missiles.

Unfortunately it might also prove that Gallans are actually inhuman ant/bee-men who have no real individuality, while Galla's eternal foes in Marxism and Liberalism reveal themselves to be actual human men, but wholly unprepared for leveraging their strengths against Man-Bee-Ant Civilization.

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High tech tribal richness culture vs. mechanized infantrybees

Unfortunately(?) I think the infantrybees would win because they don't believe in an empire without tears, because they're borderline sociopath human insects who only care about preservation of the species above all else.
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:33 am

have to engage the infantrybees more closely, they have a disadvantage in close combat

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Postby Gallia- » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:36 am

Laritaia wrote:have to engage the infantrybees more closely, they have a disadvantage in close combat


Infantrybees aren't that bad at bayoneting:

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They're probably comparable to 17th century Swedes or 20th century Frenchmen. Besides, their spears are longer than bullpup trash guns and AKs, so get owned commies. The only real "problem" is that infantrybees would never think of something as "laterally minded" as New Age Earth Battalions, individually.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:47 am

Theodosiya wrote:Well, if something happens down here, all i got, aside from an FN FNC copy (SS1, or SS2, if i'm lucky, or AK-47/74, worst case M16A1), DPM pattern uniform, ancestral spear, knifes, and improvised ammo rig (made from motorcycle riding "vest" and leather jacket). Maybe old vest and PASGT helmet or M1. If they conscript me, guy with bad eyesight. Or if i volunteer in militias.

That said, is there any very easy to use, tough, cheap and a bit customizable automatic rifle chambered in 5.56mm Nato, that is readily available in 3rd world countries?

AR-15, failing that, somehow, AR-18.
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:26 am

Gallia- wrote:
Laritaia wrote:have to engage the infantrybees more closely, they have a disadvantage in close combat


Infantrybees aren't that bad at bayoneting:

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They're probably comparable to 17th century Swedes or 20th century Frenchmen. Besides, their spears are longer than bullpup trash guns and AKs, so get owned commies. The only real "problem" is that infantrybees would never think of something as "laterally minded" as New Age Earth Battalions, individually.


How do you break a carry handle like that
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Postby Laritaia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:38 am

bayonet drill

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Postby Kouralia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:49 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Infantrybees aren't that bad at bayoneting:

(Image)

They're probably comparable to 17th century Swedes or 20th century Frenchmen. Besides, their spears are longer than bullpup trash guns and AKs, so get owned commies. The only real "problem" is that infantrybees would never think of something as "laterally minded" as New Age Earth Battalions, individually.


How do you break a carry handle like that

He's an infantryman: sometimes they can cause damage when teething.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:AR-15, failing that, somehow, AR-18.


AR-18 is an easy choice if you have a rather poor industrial base.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:02 am

Fordorsia wrote:
How do you break a carry handle like that


Infantry. Give them something you consider indestructible and they will give it back in pieces. :rofl:
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Postby Husseinarti » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Infantrybees aren't that bad at bayoneting:

Image

They're probably comparable to 17th century Swedes or 20th century Frenchmen. Besides, their spears are longer than bullpup trash guns and AKs, so get owned commies. The only real "problem" is that infantrybees would never think of something as "laterally minded" as New Age Earth Battalions, individually.


How do you break a carry handle like that

Because its rubber.
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Postby Puzikas » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:51 pm

Husseinarti wrote:Because its rubber.



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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:21 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
How do you break a carry handle like that

Because its rubber.


Budget cuts hit the army hard
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:33 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Someone post some of their old shit I'm bored

Like my sexy wide brimmed infantry helmet. How do you even beat it as a poor under equipped barbarian
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Sure I guess.

1940-1950s Light Utility Vehicle, meant to equip my Motor Rifle units 2 per section. Sorta a cross between a technical and a jeep I guess.
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Flame Rocket. Still think it's viable despite what mean ole puzz says. It's for all intents and purposes a wooden rocket with a molotov cocktail strapped to the front. Gregorian 16-17th century style.
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A gun I made, poorly scaled. One of the first i made on Pimp my gun. I can't draw that well.
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One of the formations I came up with for my forces. Variation of the bull horn used by the zulu. I'm now a bit more interested in Akan tactics/formations so this has sorta fallen out of use.
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:54 pm

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Postby Kazarogkai » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:18 am

Fordorsia wrote:old meaning IC old, ya dip


Ahh

Should have specified better trick ass bitch.

To be fair the Flame Rocket and the Fighting formation date back a while so there is that. 14-16th century to be more specific.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:26 pm

Hmm...say you got a small, but modern little state that's not particularly important, but still needs to defend itself. What would be the pros and cons of using American equipment VS Soviet/Russian or Chinese equipment?

And M16 and variants, AKM and variants, or FN FAL?

I mean, I know the general, GENRAL gist of it all, but modern day military stuff isn't my forte, since I'm a WWI and WWII nerd.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:32 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:Hmm...say you got a small, but modern little state that's not particularly important, but still needs to defend itself. What would be the pros and cons of using American equipment VS Soviet/Russian or Chinese equipment?

And M16 and variants, AKM and variants, or FN FAL?

I mean, I know the general, GENRAL gist of it all, but modern day military stuff isn't my forte, since I'm a WWI and WWII nerd.


Nothing, really. At least between the some AR-15 clone and the AK-series.

It would come down to your nation buying from whoever you're closer to politically or whoever offers a better deal.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:00 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:Hmm...say you got a small, but modern little state that's not particularly important, but still needs to defend itself. What would be the pros and cons of using American equipment VS Soviet/Russian or Chinese equipment?

And M16 and variants, AKM and variants, or FN FAL?

I mean, I know the general, GENRAL gist of it all, but modern day military stuff isn't my forte, since I'm a WWI and WWII nerd.

Small countries do not fight wars. They are fought over. Small countries do not defend them self. They are defended. Every small country is fundamentally a vassal, officially or not, of either a superpower or regional power. So just pick your master and buy from him.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:02 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Torsiedelle wrote:Hmm...say you got a small, but modern little state that's not particularly important, but still needs to defend itself. What would be the pros and cons of using American equipment VS Soviet/Russian or Chinese equipment?

And M16 and variants, AKM and variants, or FN FAL?

I mean, I know the general, GENRAL gist of it all, but modern day military stuff isn't my forte, since I'm a WWI and WWII nerd.

Small countries do not fight wars. They are fought over. Small countries do not defend them self. They are defended. Every small country is fundamentally a vassal, officially or not, of either a superpower or regional power. So just pick your master and buy from him.


Nyet.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:20 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Small countries do not fight wars. They are fought over. Small countries do not defend them self. They are defended. Every small country is fundamentally a vassal, officially or not, of either a superpower or regional power. So just pick your master and buy from him.


Nyet.

Liberty or death.

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