Infantry Discussion Thread 10: Shovel Edition [NO FWORDS]

[Rhodesialund]

No, I in fact do not.

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The important question you should ask is how many Injuns did your .318 Westly Richards kill. Now compare that to how many .45-70 racked up.

[Crookfur]

No, I in fact do not.

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The important question you should ask is how many Injuns did your .318 Westly Richards kill. Now compare that to how many .45-70 racked up.

Put it away, nobody is impressed.

If he wants to enjoy shooting a rather tasty medium bore nitro express elephant annihilate and express his not at doing so let him. It doesn't stop you enjoying your salty lump of obsolete in 3 years gristle.

[United Dixieland Territories]

The important question you should ask is how many Injuns did your .318 Westly Richards kill. Now compare that to how many .45-70 racked up.

Put it away, nobody is impressed.

If he wants to enjoy shooting a rather tasty medium bore nitro express elephant annihilate and express his not at doing so let him. It doesn't stop you enjoying your salty lump of obsolete in 3 years gristle.

The .318 is rather nice on the eyes, isn't it? Though, to Rhodesialunds' credit; were I to pursue a larger, slightly off-key & less practical widespread military adaption of a civilian sporting cartridge, it would be of a .425 cartridge to deal with this "Aethal" guy in the event of war within the region. Crookfur, have you seen this thing? Good god, it's ridiculous on two fronts, impact on the target & impact on the wallet.

[Rhodesialund]

Put it away, nobody is impressed.

If he wants to enjoy shooting a rather tasty medium bore nitro express elephant annihilate and express his not at doing so let him. It doesn't stop you enjoying your salty lump of obsolete in 3 years gristle.

Jeeze, and here I was just ribbing him about his choice.

Which, in complete honesty, is a rather sweet looking round. I do wonder what the recoil is like. Must be a sweet shooter.

[United Dixieland Territories]

Put it away, nobody is impressed.

If he wants to enjoy shooting a rather tasty medium bore nitro express elephant annihilate and express his not at doing so let him. It doesn't stop you enjoying your salty lump of obsolete in 3 years gristle.

Jeeze, and here I was just ribbing him about his choice.

Which, in complete honesty, is a rather sweet looking round. I do wonder what the recoil is like. Must be a sweet shooter.

It was slick, sweet and smooth. A bit like 8mm mauser or some of those hotter loaded .303 homebrews, didn't have a sharp kick inasmuch of a hard-push or thump; it doesn't knock you about though, which is a sure sight pleasant when trying to drop charging game.

[Rhodesialund]

It was slick, sweet and smooth. A bit like 8mm mauser or some of those hotter loaded .303 homebrews, didn't have a sharp kick inasmuch of a hard-push or thump; it doesn't knock you about though, which is a sure sight pleasant when trying to drop charging game.

Yeah, cartridges with slower burning powders are so nice to shoot. Especially with the slow push/thump you get from them. One of the reasons why I sometimes like black powder loadings.

[United Dixieland Territories]

It was slick, sweet and smooth. A bit like 8mm mauser or some of those hotter loaded .303 homebrews, didn't have a sharp kick inasmuch of a hard-push or thump; it doesn't knock you about though, which is a sure sight pleasant when trying to drop charging game.

Yeah, cartridges with slower burning powders are so nice to shoot. Especially with the slow push/thump you get from them. One of the reasons why I sometimes like black powder loadings.

.318 isn't blackpowder though, the gun was just designed with weight to counter potential recoil in mind with a relatively beefy barrel.

[Alimeria-]

It was slick, sweet and smooth. A bit like 8mm mauser or some of those hotter loaded .303 homebrews, didn't have a sharp kick inasmuch of a hard-push or thump; it doesn't knock you about though, which is a sure sight pleasant when trying to drop charging game.

Yeah, cartridges with slower burning powders are so nice to shoot. Especially with the slow push/thump you get from them. One of the reasons why I sometimes like black powder loadings.

.318 isn't black powder though, it's just made heavy to put down African Game.

[Rhodesialund]

Yeah, cartridges with slower burning powders are so nice to shoot. Especially with the slow push/thump you get from them. One of the reasons why I sometimes like black powder loadings.

.318 isn't blackpowder though, the gun was just designed with weight to counter potential recoil in mind with a relatively beefy barrel.

Didn't say it was blackpowder tho. :c

[United Dixieland Territories]

.318 isn't blackpowder though, the gun was just designed with weight to counter potential recoil in mind with a relatively beefy barrel.

Didn't say it was blackpowder tho. :c

My apologies, I misinterpreted what you were saying a little bit. It's been a long day.

[Puzikas]

It's still pushing 820m/s with the majority of loads on the market, even with the 250gr projectiles
There's nothing tame about it. A 208gr projectile should move at about 780-800m/s, and it's above the range of 8x56mmR.

[United Dixieland Territories]

It's still pushing 820m/s with the majority of loads on the market, even with the 250gr projectiles
There's nothing tame about it. A 208gr projectile should move at about 780-800m/s, and it's above the range of 8x56mmR.

Were it a woman, I'd ask it out for coffee.

[Pteroslavia new]

Newly designed (For me at least) Infantry Platoon, circa 1883
50 men (36 Conscript/Recruits, 6 Corporals, 3 Junior Sergeants, 2 Senior Sergeants, 2 Junior Lieutenants, 1 Lieutenant) + Gun crew of 4 (3 Gunners, 1 Gunner Sergeant)
Equipment: 50 KA Gwintowka wz.80, 10 KA Karabin wz.81 + 5 KA Karabin wz.81, 1 70mm M83

Was looking to see if anyone had any opinions on it, or perhaps advice.

[Federated Kingdom of Prussia]

Is it true that late WWI German infantry tactics were some of the best in the world?

[Fordorsia]

Is it true that late WWI German infantry tactics were some of the best in the world?

I think I'm correct in saying they were at the very least the most innovative

[Crookfur]

Newly designed (For me at least) Infantry Platoon, circa 1883
50 men (36 Conscript/Recruits, 6 Corporals, 3 Junior Sergeants, 2 Senior Sergeants, 2 Junior Lieutenants, 1 Lieutenant) + Gun crew of 4 (3 Gunners, 1 Gunner Sergeant)
Equipment: 50 KA Gwintowka wz.80, 10 KA Karabin wz.81 + 5 KA Karabin wz.81, 1 70mm M83

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Was looking to see if anyone had any opinions on it, or perhaps advice.

I can't really say for sure but it all feels a bit too modern for the period.

At the time The british were still using 26 man sections (sgt,cpl and 24men) 2 of which made a half/demi company (commanded by a ltn) and two demis made a company (lead by a cptn/mjr and two drummers/buglers).


having essentially modern squaded platoons might have been a thing elsewhere for all i know as i'm not brilliant on what the europeans were upto during the period but it still feels wrong.

However having a gun at paltoon level is definitely out of place. If the infantry had thier own guns they wouldn't appear below the battalion.

[Puzikas]

Is it true that late WWI German infantry tactics were some of the best in the world?

Nah

Is it true that late WWI German infantry tactics were some of the best in the world?

I think I'm correct in saying they were at the very least the most innovative

Eh

1916-1917 sure
1918 right up to Gneisenau they were innovative and different
Then the allies just went "oh we can do all that but better"
And did
Especially in Picardy part III: Return of the Foch

[Dostanuot Loj]

Is it true that late WWI German infantry tactics were some of the best in the world?

Nah

I think I'm correct in saying they were at the very least the most innovative

Eh

1916-1917 sure
1918 right up to Gneisenau they were innovative and different
Then the allies just went "oh we can do all that but better"
And did
Especially in Picardy part III: Return of the Foch

I think the French get far too little credit for their innovation in that war. There was a lot of crap going on for sure, but considering their situation they did amazingly well, and they managed to reconsider established dogma and try new ideas pretty readily.

[Austrasien]

Especially in Picardy part III: Return of the Foch

"Infantry tactics"

[Fordorsia]

Nah


Eh

1916-1917 sure
1918 right up to Gneisenau they were innovative and different
Then the allies just went "oh we can do all that but better"
And did
Especially in Picardy part III: Return of the Foch

I think the French get far too little credit for their innovation in that war. There was a lot of crap going on for sure, but considering their situation they did amazingly well, and they managed to reconsider established dogma and try new ideas pretty readily.

hon hon let us jam zer machine gonz wiz our bodiez

[Puzikas]

Especially in Picardy part III: Return of the Foch

"Infantry tactics"

Them is infantry tactics
Since germony and all it's Asiatic wisdom didn't produce the ability to preform combined arms
It's infantry tactics

I think the French get far too little credit for their innovation in that war. There was a lot of crap going on for sure, but considering their situation they did amazingly well, and they managed to reconsider established dogma and try new ideas pretty readily.

I agree. I think it's probably an Anglo-American phenomena though?

[Gallia-]

anglos like to think they invented the world but they really just destroyed all the hard work that france put into civilization

with their "neoliberalism" and "privatization" and "free trade"

[Rhodesialund]

Ford's heaven is our Hell...

Oh wait, it's his Hell.

[Puzikas]

This thread is hell.

[Eisarn-Ara]

This thread is hell.

If this is hell, then what was the sin committed?