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Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:32 pm

Husseinarti wrote:Proper attire, head and facial hair regulations (Within reason, I'd assume auxiliaries would have different options), armor maintenance and training, proper military bearing and behavior.

I can imagine it now:

"YOU! MILITES! YES YOU! IS THIS A BEARD YOU ARE GROWING? WHAT IN ALL OF JUPITER'S NAME DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING? DO YOU FAVOR YOURSELF A GREEK? YOU FAVOR YOURSELF A MAN WHO GAZES AT THE STARS AND PHILOSOPHIZES OVER NOTHINGNESS WHILE OTHER MEN MAKE BETTER THEMSELVES AND THEIR PEOPLE BY ACTING? SHALL I FETCH YOUNG BOYS FOR YOU INDULGE YOUR INNER-ARISTOTLE, OR DO YOU FAVOR BEING A CINADEUS? MILITES, YOU'VE GOT ABOUT TO HORA PRIMA NOCTIS TO REMOVE THAT DISGUSTING GROWTH FROM YOUR FACE BEFORE I- YOU KNOW WHAT. RUN. GET YOUR GEAR. GET YOUR CONTURBERNIUM, YOUR DECANUS AND EVEN YOUR SERVENTS AND RUN. YOU WILL RUN AROUND THIS FORT UNTIL EVERY SINGLE STRAND OF FACIAL HAIR HAS FALLEN OFF YOUR FACE. RUN."

That's glorious. There must be a Macedonian version.
militant radical centrist in the sheets, neoclassical realist in the streets.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:36 pm

Gallia- wrote:>not 5.56mm


in a world meant to make sense, yes it would be 5.56mm

however that is B O R I N G
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:19 pm

I may not be the best artist, but holy shit filling in the negative space on the PGM Hecate's form makes it such a better rifle.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:26 pm

6.66mm master race.
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:30 pm

It's like the goth kid of cartridges.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:37 pm

Puzikas wrote:It's like the goth kid of cartridges.


Typical old man. You just don't understand it. You never understand it!
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:42 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:6.66mm master race.


6.16mm :ugeek:
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:10 am

the bigger question is how silly do i make the gun?

it can't be puny lest it gets crushed by the mitey fists of America's brave fighting men who are lucky enough to don the T-60 power armour, but it also can't be retarded looking like the game's assault rifle
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:20 am

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:I had some ponderings about what'd make for a decent spahhs rifle/ cartridge, so I'm intrigued as to why you decided on micro-boolet at schnell speeds in spahss?

It's mostly because microcalibers are my shtick, to be honest. Though, I tend to justify my choice with fancy talk if recoil minimisation, individual ammunition carrying capacity, armour penetration and flat trajectories.



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Estovnia wrote:3,5mm is retarded lul

winner is 10.4 since it seemed to be the least autistic

>implying large-bore service rifles aren't retarded after, like, the 1900s
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For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Crookfur » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:28 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:6.66mm master race.

Been done a few times on NS. Mostly by edge Lords and briefly by me as a slight change from the glory that is 6.25mm
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Postby Puzikas » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:00 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Puzikas wrote:It's like the goth kid of cartridges.


Typical old man. You just don't understand it. You never understand it!


Back in my day we had to wait in line for black!
Uphill!
In the snow!
Both ways!

Estovnia wrote:the bigger question is how silly do i make the gun?


Can they aim down sights or non?
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:30 am

Estovnia wrote:the bigger question is how silly do i make the gun?

it can't be puny lest it gets crushed by the mitey fists of America's brave fighting men who are lucky enough to don the T-60 power armour, but it also can't be retarded looking like the game's assault rifle



some obscene hughes lockless machine gun.
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:49 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:>implying large-bore service rifles aren't retarded after, like, the 1900s



5.45 seems to be the most practical stopping point on "the small stuff" when it comes to cartridges.
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Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:02 am

4.6mm, tbh
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby EsToVnIa » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:54 am

Puzikas wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Typical old man. You just don't understand it. You never understand it!


Back in my day we had to wait in line for black!
Uphill!
In the snow!
Both ways!

Estovnia wrote:the bigger question is how silly do i make the gun?


Can they aim down sights or non?


Yeah I think they can

VATS is silly
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Weeaboo Gassing Land wrote:Also, rev up the gas chambers.

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:CUNT

12:02:02 AM <Tarsas> premislyd is my spirit animal tbh

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Postby Sevvania » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:40 am

Estovnia wrote:it also can't be retarded looking like the game's assault rifle

FO4's "assault rifle" was originally intended to chamber .50 cal, if that's any consolation (you can still see this referenced on the weapon's suppressor).

On the subject of silly power armor guns, though, the PTRS-41 mod I use also adds polymer-furnished, drum-fed, automatic variants fitted with gun shields that can often be seen in the hands of BoS soldiers. Kinda like if a KORD and a BAR got it on in a server room.
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:47 am

Why?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Sevvania » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:52 am

Purpelia wrote:Why?

Because power armor, I'd imagine.
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:00 am

Sevvania wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Why?

Because power armor, I'd imagine.

I am just unconvinced with the whole setup. Like it's a machine gun with a scope and a gun shield (which is going to be hopelessly inadequate) chambered in an obsolete ammo type that someone has apparently developed a new round for. Honestly I'd rather have a functional XM-25 with HEAT shells. Or better yet if power armor is in play I'd want to bring along one of those Chinese 35mm rifles but with XM-25 fancy fuse and sights on it. More kill for far less weight and recoil.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:03 am

It's a game
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:08 am

Fordorsia wrote:It's a game

Since when does that make it beyond commentary?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:13 am

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:It's a game

Since when does that make it beyond commentary?


It's a ridiculous tacticooled PTRS with a shield and beta magazine, clearly not meant to be taken seriously. It doesn't need commentary.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:15 am

Sevvania wrote:
Estovnia wrote:it also can't be retarded looking like the game's assault rifle

FO4's "assault rifle" was originally intended to chamber .50 cal, if that's any consolation (you can still see this referenced on the weapon's suppressor).

On the subject of silly power armor guns, though, the PTRS-41 mod I use also adds polymer-furnished, drum-fed, automatic variants fitted with gun shields that can often be seen in the hands of BoS soldiers. Kinda like if a KORD and a BAR got it on in a server room.

I love this so much words cannot describe.
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Postby Husseinarti » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:35 am

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:It's a game

Since when does that make it beyond commentary?


game logic
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Postby Sevvania » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:44 am

Fordorsia wrote:It's a game

So is NS. :v

Purpelia wrote:I am just unconvinced with the whole setup. Like it's a machine gun with a scope and a gun shield (which is going to be hopelessly inadequate) chambered in an obsolete ammo type that someone has apparently developed a new round for. Honestly I'd rather have a functional XM-25 with HEAT shells. Or better yet if power armor is in play I'd want to bring along one of those Chinese 35mm rifles but with XM-25 fancy fuse and sights on it. More kill for far less weight and recoil.

The optics and gun shield are removable, and it's also available in .50 cal, for what that's worth.
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