Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:39 pm
Since when do people fight over things that aren't valuable?
Urban areas are pretty much the entirety of an economy/population.
Urban areas are pretty much the entirety of an economy/population.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
NeuPolska wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:Biking towards the battle isn't the worst option, and is indeed faster and less energy intensive than walking or hiking. However if you have access to vehicles they are still infinity preferable.
Yes, I agree.
I'd only use bikes with small detachments of light infantry going in to support some army out in the field that isn't in the middle of an intense firefight or under severe threat from snipers. So limited use.
NeuPolska wrote:Allanea wrote:
Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).
Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).
Fordorsia wrote:Excuse me I have won all 0 wars I have ever fought, making my win rate 100%
NeuPolska wrote:Allanea wrote:
Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).
Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).
Allanea wrote:NeuPolska wrote:Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).
But we're talking about tactical movement in battle, aren't we? In actual battle a bicycle is probably actually inferior to walking or running because it's easier to quickly get behind cover or get over an obstacle, and you're probably less vulnerable to getting shot.
And if you're not in actual battle, you should probably stay aboard the lightly armored trucks Maverica mentioned.
Fordorsia wrote:If you really want infantry on bikes today, I guess the best you could do is give them lightweight offroad bikes like the Taurus 2x2. They're cheap as hell so you could buy enough to have actual modern dragoons.
I wish I had lore so I could do that
Free-Don wrote:I'd take a bicycle if the military force was in peacetime doing standard patrols in the city or along a long border in rough country. Just like how skis are still in use in snowy areas despite the existence of sleds and snowmobiles.
Personally I'm thinking of motorcycles, tricycles, and auto rickshaws as a motorized cavalry/dragoons and regular car stuff for everyone else. Oh and horses in light border patrol and city duties.
Allanea wrote:Trying to mass-deploy any kind of unprotected vehicle as motorized infantry/dragoons into combat will end up in thousands of men.
Mechanized infantry in APCs/IFVs are the dragoons and hussars of today.
Gallia- wrote:Since when do people fight over things that aren't valuable?
Urban areas are pretty much the entirety of an economy/population.
Fordorsia wrote:flank the cities bro
Gallan Systems wrote:Allanea wrote:Trying to mass-deploy any kind of unprotected vehicle as motorized infantry/dragoons into combat will end up in thousands of men.
Mechanized infantry in APCs/IFVs are the dragoons and hussars of today.
Superlights used by Third World countries like Chad and Russia are superior to mechanized troops in open steppe and desert, though.
1st Brigade, 9th ID Commanding Officer wrote:Motorized is not merely a unit or a specific type of equipment—it is people with a vision, a belief, a purpose—and with the uncanny ability to transform ideas into reality. They did—it is!
Puzikas wrote:Basically yeah
The MRDs advantage is it's tactical mobility, autonomous range and speed.
It's really hard to beat an enemy when the enemy keeps changing position and only engaging your weakest points or rapidly moving away, only to re-engage you somewhere else from a flank thanks to superior tactical mobility
Theve never been to war though, at least not against a peer and modern war of mechanization. The terrain of Russia, shockingly, shapes the doctrines of the primary defensive Russian army.
Also bike infantry are fucking cancer and stupid.