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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:08 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I know how to fix this.

Agoge.

We're bringing it back baybee.


It won't really change things much. Biology is a bitch.



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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:11 pm

Rhodesialund wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
It won't really change things much. Biology is a bitch.



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Postby EsToVnIa » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:27 pm

Just lower the standards LoL
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:30 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
It won't really change things much. Biology is a bitch.

Yes I'm sure physical training and dietary regulation from pre-puberty will have absolutely no effect at all on the percentage of women fit to serve. None whatsoever. Nope. Nada.


Gender and Physical Training Effects on Soldier Physical Competencies and Physiological Strain suggests that the difference won't be overly significant.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:39 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:Biology is a bitch.


Biology is great. It keeps women in their place.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:01 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Yes I'm sure physical training and dietary regulation from pre-puberty will have absolutely no effect at all on the percentage of women fit to serve. None whatsoever. Nope. Nada.


Gender and Physical Training Effects on Soldier Physical Competencies and Physiological Strain suggests that the difference won't be overly significant.

That's because the DaToA lacks vision.
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:31 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
It won't really change things much. Biology is a bitch.

Yes I'm sure physical training and dietary regulation from pre-puberty will have absolutely no effect at all on the percentage of women fit to serve. None whatsoever. Nope. Nada.


ruins womens' true place on the home front producing more soldiers

3 children per woman minimum

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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:33 pm

Drugs are the answer.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:47 pm

remember: no guy wants to be with a girl whose stronger than him
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:47 pm

Estovnia wrote:remember: no guy wants to be with a girl whose stronger than him


inb4 nirv
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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:50 pm

Estovnia wrote:remember: no guy wants to be with a girl whose stronger than him


Because men can't handle being emasculated by women because "Roids are bad mmmkay..."


Lol, welcome to the new age of Nu-males. Those who refuse to hit the gym and get swole with roids.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:50 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Estovnia wrote:remember: no guy wants to be with a girl whose stronger than him


inb4 nirv

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Postby Puzikas » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:52 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
It won't really change things much. Biology is a bitch.

Yes I'm sure physical training and dietary regulation from pre-puberty will have absolutely no effect at all on the percentage of women fit to serve. None whatsoever. Nope. Nada.


The problem with creating a dietary restricted and tuned person to be closer to one sex while they're the opposite is it brings them to the middle
It doesn't make them the same, it just takes them to a 'middle point'.
In fact from prepubescent stages you're more likely to harm them than push them to where you want them

The Kievan People wrote:Drugs are the answer.


To a degree i suppose


Rhodesialund wrote:Lol, welcome to the new age of Nu-males. Those who refuse to hit the gym and get swole with roids.


Anabolic steroids are for faggots.
Literally

Pls refrain from making comments on the matter until you've taken an introduction to endocrinology course it triggers me ;-;
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:56 pm

If you dope them hard enough they will basically become men :>

OFC you could still dope men to even swoler levels
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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Rhodesialund wrote:Lol, welcome to the new age of Nu-males. Those who refuse to hit the gym and get swole with roids.


Anabolic steroids are for faggots.
Literally

Pls refrain from making comments on the matter until you've taken an introduction to endocrinology course it triggers me ;-;


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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:59 pm

Puzikas wrote:In fact from prepubescent stages you're more likely to harm them than push them to where you want them

yes

we're going to start them out with powerlifting and INSANITY workouts

Puzikas wrote:The problem with creating a dietary restricted and tuned person to be closer to one sex while they're the opposite is it brings them to the middle
It doesn't make them the same, it just takes them to a 'middle point'.

In case you haven't been following the NarrativeTM we're trying to bring women closer to men's performance. We're not trying to bring men down to women. Ergo moving women to a middle point is an objective gain.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:04 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Puzikas wrote:In fact from prepubescent stages you're more likely to harm them than push them to where you want them

yes

we're going to start them out with powerlifting and INSANITY workouts

Puzikas wrote:The problem with creating a dietary restricted and tuned person to be closer to one sex while they're the opposite is it brings them to the middle
It doesn't make them the same, it just takes them to a 'middle point'.

In case you haven't been following the NarrativeTM we're trying to bring women closer to men's performance. We're not trying to bring men down to women. Ergo moving women to a middle point is an objective gain.


Bingo, fuck lowering the standards. Those standards are there for a reason. We make the man/woman better to exceed those standards.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:11 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Estovnia wrote:remember: no guy wants to be with a girl whose stronger than him


inb4 nirv


If they're stronger than me, it means they can operate on the daily like me, too. How is this not considered perfection?

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Postby Puzikas » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:12 pm

Literally for homosexuals
It's like you don't even medical scientific history

The Kievan People wrote:If you dope them hard enough they will basically become men :>

OFC you could still dope men to even swoler levels


Yes
Sort of
Gay men were thought to just lack serious levels of manstuff so they used to just be like, "here, take these to get manly and stop sucking so much dick"
Also all those side effects have many reputations in a lot of Euro nations that stand to this day so there's that.

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Ergo moving women to a middle point is an objective gain.


In trying to fit the narritive™ you missed the part where I said

Puzikas wrote:In fact from prepubescent stages you're more likely to harm them than push them to where you want them


Which objectively points that you end up with something not male and not female and really not even good at all.

Estrogen and Testosterone are so much more than just sex hormones. This is going back to A&P II in 2004 so forgive me for vagueness, but essentially Estrogen and Testosterone interact with and other hormones (all of them do) and play a huge role around pubescence times in musculoskeletal growth. Testosterone creates more muscle mass by about a 10-20% margin, and these arent just more muscle strangs, but these are inheritly better muscles. They're tighter, they're thicker and have inheritly more tensile strength, while female muscle is inheritly less strong and looser. This is why women are generally more flexible than men; their muscles are less tense at any given point and ergo have a higher given range of motion.

If you restrict a prepubescent individual's diet and give them hormone therapy, you give them no mass to build on and you give them no basis to build on. The hormones provide a stable platform and set of directions to build on. If you have two directors providing opposing instructions to build, do you know what the body does? Nothing. It doesn't just go half and half, it will conserve energy and do nothing. This is delayed purity in it of itself.
Plus so long as the individuals have sex organs you're going to be fighting an uphill internal battle with their system which would probably kill them.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:14 pm

The Kievan People wrote:If you dope them hard enough they will basically become men :>

OFC you could still dope men to even swoler levels


seems like a monetary waste when they're supposed to be popping out more healthy, aryan males for the SS

e: like with everything else military, the chairgenerals of IDT prove themselves once again to not have any clue what they're talking about

rip in pepperoni
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:20 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Drugs are the answer.


in the ultimate techno-fetish future when we've mastered artificial wombs, women become obsolete

all penis future gays only

NO GIRLS ALLOWED

Puzikas wrote:Literally for homosexuals
It's like you don't even medical scientific history

The Kievan People wrote:If you dope them hard enough they will basically become men :>

OFC you could still dope men to even swoler levels


Yes
Sort of
Gay men were thought to just lack serious levels of manstuff so they used to just be like, "here, take these to get manly and stop sucking so much dick"
Also all those side effects have many reputations in a lot of Euro nations that stand to this day so there's that.

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Ergo moving women to a middle point is an objective gain.


In trying to fit the narritive™ you missed the part where I said

Puzikas wrote:In fact from prepubescent stages you're more likely to harm them than push them to where you want them


Which objectively points that you end up with something not male and not female and really not even good at all.

Estrogen and Testosterone are so much more than just sex hormones. This is going back to A&P II in 2004 so forgive me for vagueness, but essentially Estrogen and Testosterone interact with and other hormones (all of them do) and play a huge role around pubescence times in musculoskeletal growth. Testosterone creates more muscle mass by about a 10-20% margin, and these arent just more muscle strangs, but these are inheritly better muscles. They're tighter, they're thicker and have inheritly more tensile strength, while female muscle is inheritly less strong and looser. This is why women are generally more flexible than men; their muscles are less tense at any given point and ergo have a higher given range of motion.

If you restrict a prepubescent individual's diet and give them hormone therapy, you give them no mass to build on and you give them no basis to build on. The hormones provide a stable platform and set of directions to build on. If you have two directors providing opposing instructions to build, do you know what the body does? Nothing. It doesn't just go half and half, it will conserve energy and do nothing. This is delayed purity in it of itself.
Plus so long as the individuals have sex organs you're going to be fighting an uphill internal battle with their system which would probably kill them.


hoisting federation only begins age 15-16 rip
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Postby Puzikas » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:26 pm

It's far easier to provide an artificial benis than an artificial womb and vegeny

But it's probably easier to create an artificial Female X chromosomal replacement than it is to create a Male X/Y variated Chromosomal copy
However if we only need to make one sex (XX or XY) then both are easy and we just remove sex organs and manufacture people in big people plant
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Postby Gallan Systems » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:27 pm

Puzikas wrote:It's far easier to provide an artificial benis than an artificial womb and vegeny

But it's probably easier to create an artificial Female X chromosomal replacement than it is to create a Male X/Y variated Chromosomal copy
However if we only need to make one sex (XX or XY) then both are easy and we just remove sex organs and manufacture people in big people plant


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Postby Puzikas » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:30 pm

Are you trying to seduce me
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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:33 pm

Estovnia wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:If you dope them hard enough they will basically become men :>

OFC you could still dope men to even swoler levels


seems like a monetary waste when they're supposed to be popping out more healthy, aryan males for the SS

e: like with everything else military, the chairgenerals of IDT prove themselves once again to not have any clue what they're talking about

rip in pepperoni


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