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Gallia-
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Gallia- » Sun May 14, 2017 9:28 pm

NeuPolska wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Well you don't need your genitals.

Isn't a hit to the genitals a death sentence anyway, given the amount of blood that would be lost extremely rapidly?


No?

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Puzikas
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Puzikas » Mon May 15, 2017 3:40 am

Def no
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

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Fordorsia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 15, 2017 4:15 am

Image
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Kassaran
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kassaran » Mon May 15, 2017 4:26 am

Is that...
Beware: Walls of Text Generally appear Above this Sig.
The Teutonic Republic wrote:"Hammer" in Russian means "Dicks" in Finnish.

This can't be a coincidence
Korva wrote:Q: How effective would this thing be if we assume it would be very effective?
A: Very effective
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

bloody hell, mate.
that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.
Currently Enlisted in the United States Army.

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Fordorsia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 15, 2017 4:29 am

You're god damn right

The pinnacle of groin protection
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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NeuPolska
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby NeuPolska » Mon May 15, 2017 4:35 am

Puzikas wrote:Def no

I see.

Fordorsia wrote:(Image)

Perfect!

Please, call me POLSKA
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Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916

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Gallia-
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Gallia- » Mon May 15, 2017 5:10 am

Kassaran wrote:Is that...


bring back tactical codpieces

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Theodosiya
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Theodosiya » Mon May 15, 2017 5:40 am

Might need biggur one for mine. With soft padding, if possible, for double protection.
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20 years old Indonesian Javanese Catholic with interest in History, Military and Politics. Airsofter.
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Heterosexual
Pro : Civic Nationalism, Death Sentence, Indonesia, Center left, Center right, Chemical castration for rapists.
Neutral : LGBT+(Nominally Pro, if thinking that they shouldn't be persecuted or attacked or converted), Russia, USA, Atheism, Religion.
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Purpelia
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Purpelia » Mon May 15, 2017 6:33 am

Just man up and squeeze in.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Crookfur
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crookfur » Mon May 15, 2017 7:34 am

Theodosiya wrote:Might need biggur one for mine. With soft padding, if possible, for double protection.

Sounds like you really just want a tactical fleshlight.


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Your ordinary everyday scotiodanavian freedom loving utopia!

And yes I do like big old guns, why do you ask?

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Rhodesialund
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rhodesialund » Mon May 15, 2017 7:35 am

Purpelia wrote:Just man up and squeeze in.


Sure, if you like chastity cages. :roll:
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Purpelia
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Purpelia » Mon May 15, 2017 8:16 am

Rhodesialund wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Just man up and squeeze in.


Sure, if you like chastity cages. :roll:

Given that Purpelia... yes, I probably do.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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NeuPolska
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby NeuPolska » Mon May 15, 2017 9:16 am

Purpelia wrote:
Rhodesialund wrote:
Sure, if you like chastity cages. :roll:

Given that Purpelia... yes, I probably do.

:meh:

Please, call me POLSKA
U.S. Army Enlisted
Kar-Esseria wrote:Who is that and are they female because if not then they can go make love to their hand.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Go home Polska wins NS.
United Mongol Hordes wrote:Polska isn't exactly the nicest guy in the world
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Hurd you miss the point more than Polska misses Poland.
Rhodesialund wrote:when you have Charlie ten feet away or something operating operationally.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Gayla is living in 1985 but these guys are already in 1916

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Rhodesialund
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rhodesialund » Mon May 15, 2017 11:07 am

Purpelia wrote:
Rhodesialund wrote:
Sure, if you like chastity cages. :roll:

Given that Purpelia... yes, I probably do.


Someone call Race Bannon, we got someone to take a surf on the electric wave. :rofl:
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Kassaran
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kassaran » Mon May 15, 2017 4:36 pm

Beware: Walls of Text Generally appear Above this Sig.
The Teutonic Republic wrote:"Hammer" in Russian means "Dicks" in Finnish.

This can't be a coincidence
Korva wrote:Q: How effective would this thing be if we assume it would be very effective?
A: Very effective
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

bloody hell, mate.
that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.
Currently Enlisted in the United States Army.

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Free-Don
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Ex-Nation

Postby Free-Don » Mon May 15, 2017 4:41 pm


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Kassaran
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kassaran » Mon May 15, 2017 4:47 pm

Beware: Walls of Text Generally appear Above this Sig.
The Teutonic Republic wrote:"Hammer" in Russian means "Dicks" in Finnish.

This can't be a coincidence
Korva wrote:Q: How effective would this thing be if we assume it would be very effective?
A: Very effective
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

bloody hell, mate.
that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.
Currently Enlisted in the United States Army.

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Fordorsia
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Founded: Oct 04, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 15, 2017 5:28 pm



ef u cen fix a bek u cen fix a shep
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Hrstrovokia
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Hrstrovokia » Mon May 15, 2017 7:05 pm

Would it still be common for an Infantry battalion to feature a Machinegun platoon, in the form of heavy machine guns? Especially if such firepower might be featured on APCs and so on?

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 15, 2017 8:46 pm

Fordorsia wrote:(Image)

why are you sharing our private pictures

i took that in full confidence
Unreachable.

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 15, 2017 8:47 pm


if Rust has taught me anything it's that a handful of naked men with rocks are the true king of the battlefield
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Taihei Tengoku
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon May 15, 2017 9:47 pm

Hrstrovokia wrote:Would it still be common for an Infantry battalion to feature a Machinegun platoon, in the form of heavy machine guns? Especially if such firepower might be featured on APCs and so on?

USMC weapons companies have a platoon of dismounted .50 Brownings for direct fire support. Dunno what the Army does with its light infantry, I'd imagine it's fairly similar.
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Gallia-
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Gallia- » Mon May 15, 2017 10:03 pm

It has similar quantities of weapons but the people who control them are very different.

US Army "weapons companies" are more like "machine gun companies". They just have ~10 Mk 19s and ~10 M2HBs a piece. The Javelin missiles are more numerous and predominant. There's enough Javelins to give a CLU to every rifle squad and still have an anti-tank squad in reserve. That's why the battalion HHC has a separate anti-armor squad with 6 CLUs. Also the four 81mm mortars live in the battalion HHC. In addition to the 81mms, the battalion HHC also has four 120mm mortars for reasons.

Back in ye olde 1990s, "weapons company" was a euphemism for "20 TOW carriers" and the rest of the HMMWVs had various pintle mounted machine guns of either .50 or 40mm. There were no machine gun platoons or assault platoons (or even an actual weapons company aside from mentioned tank destroyers). Javelins were still in the rifle platoons.

I'm not sure where the TOW HMMWVs went in the modern Infantry BCT.
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Gallia-
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Gallia- » Mon May 15, 2017 10:24 pm

Should a light infantry company have motorized weapons?

Like Growler ITV-sized gun trucks or something?

That seems really weird to me TBH but I don't know where else a little gun truck would live in in a world where heavy lift tiltrotors and helicopters can move HMMWVs and HMMWV is otherwise ubiquitous.

The alternative is having light infantry battalions segregated by the means of transportation that can move them. So you'd have tiltrotor infantry battalions with heavy machine guns and such on Iltis while LOSATs are still carried by HMMWV, and then you'd have normal light infantry battalions with HMMWV weapon carriers of all stripes. That seems kind of confusing though?

I don't want to surrender to the Muhreens or Rangers and use Iltis for all gun truck purposes. Mostly because it's tiny and for some reason that seems a bad choice for what is supposed to be a gun truck and carry lots of bullets and ammo. For ex. the Canadian TOW Iltis could carry two reloads in addition to one round, while a TOW HMMWV can carry like 8 reloads.

OTOH I could just designate one as "air assault battalion" and give them Iltis and for "(non-air assault) light infantry battalion" except they have HMMWV squad carrier, Stinger HMMWV or Crossbow, and HMMWV gun trucks? The only common link being that the 105mm gun batteries and LOSAT missile carriers are both HMMWV based while everything else like mortars and heavy weapons are pulled by Iltis trucks. That seems OK I guess. It would let me frontload an assault battalion in nothing but V-22s anyway.

Because HLHs are scarce and HMMWV has a massive footprint. And I'm emotionally attached to large, cuddly, wide Objects.

IDK if Iltis could handle ASP-30 though.
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Fordorsia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Fordorsia » Tue May 16, 2017 6:10 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:(Image)

why are you sharing our private pictures

i took that in full confidence


I thought we were in an open relationship
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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